--- Log opened Fri Oct 22 02:23:08 2010
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18:03 < Petrakis> Hi
18:03 < Farthen> hi
18:04 < Petrakis> i get data flash I/O error
18:04 < Petrakis> why?
18:04 < Farthen> what are you doing?
18:05 < Petrakis> installing iloader
18:05 < Farthen> and is it a rockbox error or an iloader one?
18:05 < Farthen> ok
18:05 < Petrakis> iloader rockbox was fine when was using it
18:05 < Farthen> so the error message is while installing iloader? at which step?
18:05 < Petrakis> at repartitioning
18:06 < Farthen> ok, pretty interesting
18:06 < Petrakis> deleting the 100 mb
18:06 < Petrakis> of firm
18:06 < Farthen> ok
18:06 < Farthen> this should actually not happen i think....
18:06 < Petrakis> IDK
18:07 < Farthen> hmm, was it using the default partitioning before? so the one after restoring with itunes?
18:08 < Petrakis> what do you mean?
18:08 < Farthen> did you change something to the partitioning before?
18:09 < Petrakis> oh, yes when i get screen of death 
18:09 < Petrakis> lol
18:09 < Farthen> white screen of death when starting disk mode?
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18:09 < Farthen> TheSeven: thanks for coming :-P
18:09 < Petrakis> no with rockbox
18:10 < Farthen> so disk mode works just fine?
18:10 < Farthen> what does the rockbox error say?
18:11 < Petrakis> yes, now is death screen but disk works fine (BUT with corrupted data)
18:12 < Farthen> i would suggest you to restore the ipod with itunes ans try again afterwards
18:12 < Farthen> *and
18:12 < Petrakis> i hate itunes
18:12 < Farthen> many of us do
18:12 < Petrakis> haha
18:12 < Farthen> but i see no real way around... ;)
18:13 < Petrakis> lets try again
18:13 < Farthen> you filesystem is possibly corrupted
18:14 < Petrakis> yes
18:14 < Petrakis> it is
18:15 < Petrakis> like û╒╖$√|ôà.÷k
18:15 < Farthen> yeah, restoring with itunes is the simplest way to resolve this IMHO
18:18 < TheSeven> what's the state of this ipod?
18:18 < TheSeven> iloader or apple bootloader?
18:19 < Petrakis> I/O error
18:19 < Petrakis> when repartitioning
18:19 < Petrakis> with ilader
18:19 < Petrakis> iloader*
18:19 < TheSeven> that might be a consequence of file system corruption
18:20 < TheSeven> if it, for example, tries to access a block number that's out of bounds because it found a link to it somewhere
18:21 < TheSeven> if this happened during the repartitioning process, your file system is probably completely borked now
18:21 < Petrakis> Yes
18:21 < Petrakis> it is
18:21 < Petrakis> im waiting for itunes XD
18:22 < Petrakis> the download is going slowly
18:22 < TheSeven> if you don't mind losing the data (which could probably still be prevented, but only with quite some effort) you could just wipe everything away
18:22 < TheSeven> the installer will then just reformat the data partition
18:22 < Petrakis> i dont mind losing it
18:22 < TheSeven> as long as it manages to boot the installer, you don't really need itunes, except for restoring it to the factory state, which apparently isn't what your final goal is
18:24 < TheSeven> just deleting the data partition should do the trick, at least if your MBR can't be interpreted as a superfloppy :)
18:25 < Petrakis> damn 
18:25 < Petrakis> cant format
18:27 < Farthen> which os are you using?
18:29 < Petrakis> i think its because im in a minimal xp (that i use for games) and it cant format i have to boot debian
18:30 < Farthen> on linux you should be able to just dd over the first few bytes with zeros
18:30 < Farthen> should pretty much erase your partition table :-P
18:30 < Petrakis> yes but im on xp
18:30 < Petrakis> xD
18:30 < Petrakis> right now
18:31 < Farthen> i'm not sure if diskmgmt.msc can do it
18:31 < Farthen> the vista/win7 one can do this stuff but i don't know about the xp one
18:31 < Farthen> or maybe your minimal xp does not include it or something like that
18:32 < Petrakis> its only 100 mb
18:32 < Farthen> the ipod partition or your xp?
18:32 < Petrakis> dont expect too much of it
18:32 < Petrakis> the XP
18:33 < Farthen> ok, well, i would suggest to reboot then
18:34 < Farthen> i know it hurts xD
18:34 < Petrakis> hahaha
18:38 < Petrakis> now its formated
18:39 < Petrakis> [INFO] Scanning disk devices...  [ERR]  No ipods found, aborting  [ERR]  Please connect your ipod and ensure it is in disk mode
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18:40 < dd8ne> Hello, I probaly have 'killed' my 2G nano.
18:41 < Petrakis> hi
18:41 < dd8ne> recovering with iTunes stopped at ~20% and now, it boots always into emBIOS v0.1.3 r220
18:42 < dd8ne> following message:
18:43 < dd8ne> The FTL seems to be damaged. Forcing check.. Scanning flash ... Invalid block type FF while reading vPage 991488
18:43 < dd8ne> any hints?
18:44 < dd8ne> No chance to get into diskmode... It restarts after ~5 sec with the same screen
18:44 < Farthen> hmm
18:45 < TheSeven> Petrakis: erasing the partition table isn't a good idea, as this will kill the installer
18:45 < TheSeven> you should only erase the data partition
18:45 < TheSeven> so, for example, dd if=/dev/zero bs=2048 count=1 of=/dev/sdX2
18:46 < TheSeven> if you want to be sure your MBR isn't misinterpreted as a superfloppy partition start, also do a dd if=/dev/zero bs=1 count=446 of=/dev/sdX
18:46 < dd8ne> ok. will try
18:46 < TheSeven> dd8ne: I wasn't talking to you
18:47 < dd8ne> ok .. sorry
18:47 < TheSeven> Petrakis: that ipodpatcher error was probably caused by you killing the partition table
18:47 < Petrakis> ok lets see
18:47 < Petrakis> it was the iloader
18:47 < TheSeven> you can now either go the itunes way, or wait for me to prepare a full dd image with the installer
18:48 < TheSeven> dd8ne: now let's deal with your problem
18:48 < dd8ne> Thank you
18:48 < TheSeven> and this one doesn't look good at all
18:48 < TheSeven> any idea how you managed to trigger this?
18:48 < dd8ne> that's what i thought
18:50 < TheSeven> was there any particular reason why you needed to do an itunes restore?
18:50 < dd8ne> I started to download some large mp3 files (80M). All finished fine. After a the inactivity on Rockbox, I started the beast new. And it began to do a disk check.
18:51 < dd8ne> Finally, even Rockbox didn't start anymore. so I decided to reinstall all.
18:51 < TheSeven> so you copied the files, let it sit for a while, with usb still plugged?
18:51 < dd8ne> yes
18:51 < TheSeven> what did you do then? unplug usb, shut down rockbox, and power it on again?
18:52 < TheSeven> or did you do a hard reset using menu+select for some reason? (was rockbox not responding?)
18:53 < dd8ne> so I started my Windows PC and put the iPod into diskmode. iTunes started to repair.. and stopped at 20%. No more activity for 3 min. so I decided to power off the beast.
18:53 < dd8ne> and that's.
18:54 < dd8ne> No after the download all went fine, until Rockbox shut down for inactivity. 
18:54 < TheSeven> rockbox shouldn't power down as long as it's connected through USB
18:54 < dd8ne> I even listen for 30 min music
18:55 < TheSeven> so you disconnected usb and (after possibly listening to music or doing other things) let it sit there being idle for long enough to power down?
18:55 < dd8ne> Yes.
18:55 < TheSeven> so this appears to have been a clean shutdown
18:55 < dd8ne> yes.
18:56 < TheSeven> and when you booted it again, an FTL check was triggered?
18:56 < dd8ne> yes
18:56 < dd8ne> and rockbox didn't start anymore.
18:56 < TheSeven> so it went through some phases, first scanned the flash, then probably committed a bunch of scattered pages, finally succeeded, and booted to the iloader menu?
18:56 < TheSeven> but you couldn't boot rockbox from there any more?
18:57 < dd8ne> so i put it into diskmode (ok+play)
18:57 < dd8ne> yes. iloader menu.. but no rockbox anymore. the same for the apple
18:58 < TheSeven> ok. so the general structure of the FTL was apparently still intact, but the rockbox executable got screwed.
18:58 < TheSeven> did you write to the .rockbox folder during the usb connection before everything happened?
18:58 < dd8ne> so now i allways get a iLoader Menu with Uninstall iLoader, Endet diskmode, quit iLoader and power off
18:59 < dd8ne> no
18:59 < TheSeven> hm, so apparently it either broke the block map or wrote some pages to the wrong place
19:00 < TheSeven> after you booted disk mode and connected it to your pc, could you still see files on it? (if you did check that)
19:00 < dd8ne> no, i've not checked it.
19:01 < dd8ne> I started directly into recovering
19:03 < TheSeven> hm, apparently the ftl still wasn't broken too badly at that point
19:03 < TheSeven> and if you now boot disk mode it just sits there for a few seconds with a white screen and then reboots?
19:03 < dd8ne> yes
19:03 < TheSeven> does it sometimes show an "empty battery" screen?
19:04 < TheSeven> ah, wait, that was the bootloader, not disk mode...
19:05 < dd8ne> there is a new screen just before the emBios screen.. but only for 2 heartbeats ;-)
19:05 < dd8ne> just able to see loading .......
19:06 < Petrakis> Now all was fine, iloader and flashing
19:06 < TheSeven> that should always have been like this
19:06 * TheSeven wonders what to do now
19:07 < Petrakis> WTF?
19:07 < dd8ne> could it be, that the memory chips are 'dead'?
19:07 < Petrakis> how i was able to boot the apple firm?
19:08 < TheSeven> Petrakis: how do you mean that?
19:08 < TheSeven> dd8ne: i seriously hope that this isn't the case
19:09 < TheSeven> i'm just wondering if i should trust my FTL resetting tool or not
19:09 < Petrakis> I thought that with the flashing i couldnt use the apple firm
19:10 < TheSeven> you can even use itunes to sync your music if you don't remove the firmware partition :)
19:10 < Petrakis> but
19:10 < TheSeven> the nice thing about iloader is that it can hide away well enough for itunes to not detect it
19:11 < dd8ne> i'll try to write the very old iLoader with the iloaderimage-2G
19:11 < dd8ne> maybe this helps
19:12 < dd8ne> still the same
19:14 < TheSeven> huh?
19:14 < TheSeven> how could you write something if you can't even enter disk mode?
19:14 < Petrakis> try linux
19:15 < dd8ne> ye
19:16 < dd8ne> Sorry, indeed, linux did not even mapped the usb
19:18 < dd8ne> I got a "String descriptor 0 malformed (err=2) defaulting to 0x0409"
19:18 < Petrakis> o.O
19:19 < Petrakis> TheSeven, NOW THIS IS A FAST BOOT!!! keep up the good work
19:20 < TheSeven> dd8ne: you need some custom tools to access it
19:21 < dd8ne> btw. At each restart, the ftl check is working
19:23 < TheSeven> yes, and it's always failing with the same "unknown block type" message, right?
19:23 < dd8ne> yes
19:26 < TheSeven> dd8ne: svn co http://svn.freemyipod.org/ fmisvn
19:32 < dd8ne> ok got it
19:33 < TheSeven> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyusb/files/PyUSB 1.0/1.0.0-alpha-0/pyusb-1.0.0-a0.tar.gz/download
19:34 < TheSeven> install that using "setup.py install --prefix=/usr/share/python2.6/site-packages" or whereever your site-packages directory is
19:34 < TheSeven> echo $PYTHONPATH might reveal something :)
19:38 < TheSeven> to test if everything works, execute the following command in fmisvn/embios/trunk/tools:
19:38 < Petrakis> Bye thanks for your time
19:38 < TheSeven> python embios.py writedevconsole 1 "Hello, world!"
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19:44 < dd8ne> got an error class Commandline ind file embios.py line 173
19:45 < TheSeven> can you pastebin the full output?
19:47 < dd8ne> root@IBMLaptop:/home/dd8ne/iPOD/backup/recovery/fmisvn/embios/trunk/tools# python2.5 embios.py writedevconsole 1 "Hello, world"   File "embios.py", line 173     class Commandline(object):         ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax
19:47 < TheSeven> hm
19:47 < TheSeven> which python version is that?
19:47 < TheSeven> i'm usually using 2.6
19:48 < dd8ne> 2.5 
19:49 < dd8ne> there is a 2.6 on too, but without site-package dir
19:49 < TheSeven> Farthen: do you know of any incompatibilities with 2.5?
19:49 < TheSeven> dd8ne: try just creating one or installing into dist-packages instead
19:50 < Farthen> well, this problem should be fixed with 2.6
19:50 < TheSeven> btw, it should be --prefix=/usr, not the full path
19:50 < Farthen> it is a newstyle class and they *may* be unsupported in 2.5
19:50 < Farthen> removing (object) may help
19:53 < dd8ne> hmm. doing a setup without the whole path installs akk into the right dir (2.6)
19:53 < dd8ne> but python is not founding the usb.core
19:54 < TheSeven> try moving everything from site-packages to dist-packages or adding site-packages to PYTHONPATH
19:54 < dd8ne> root@IBMLaptop:/home/dd8ne/iPOD/backup/recovery/fmisvn/embios/trunk/tools# python2.5 embios.py writedevconsole 1 "Hello, world"   File "embios.py", line 173     class Commandline(object):         ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax
19:54 < dd8ne> sorry wrong paste
19:56 < dd8ne> ok works.
19:56 < dd8ne> I got Hello World on the Screen
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20:05 < dd8ne> sorry, I've to leave. Will try to contact you tomorrow. Thank you so far for your help
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