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11:57 < matt1236> Hi
11:57 < Farthen> hi
11:58 < matt1236> I just discovered the freemyipod.org project, I wanted to give a try to my IPOD nano 2G
11:59 < Farthen> you mean you want to install iLoader on your nano 2g?
11:59 < Farthen> because the freemyipod.org project is not an operating system nor a software
12:00 < matt1236> Still quite confised about all sources/executables.. but I tried to recompile "apps/installer-nano2g"
12:00 < Farthen> why do you want to do this?
12:00 < matt1236> to just try it
12:00 < Farthen> this project is about reverse-engineering ipods and writing software for them
12:01 < TheSeven> Farthen: he should probably use the r229 beta on files.freemyipod.org for now, until i do a new release
12:01 < matt1236> I use arm-2010q1 codesourcery toolchain
12:01 < Farthen> so do you want to install iloader or not?
12:02 < matt1236> except 3 beginning byte to drop in trunk/dir.c it compiles
12:03 < matt1236> Farthen, not yet
12:03 < Farthen> but why do you want to compile the iloader installer for nano 2g then?
12:03 < TheSeven> does dir.c have a bom or what do you mean?
12:04 < matt1236> yes
12:04 < matt1236> gcc makes an error on this
12:05 < TheSeven> is that the only file where it happened?
12:05 < matt1236> yes the only
12:07 < matt1236> so It compile until: no rules to build flashfiles.built 
12:07 < TheSeven> make flashfiles :)
12:07 < matt1236> I did a make flashfiles
12:07 < matt1236> yea
12:08 < matt1236> get an USB connect error in the python script
12:08 < matt1236> edited file
12:08 < matt1236> to change PID VID
12:08 < matt1236> was FFFF E000
12:08 < matt1236> and now I have
12:08 < matt1236> usb.core.USBError: Resource busy
12:08 < matt1236> don't know what to do here
12:08 < Farthen> you need to have embios running on your ipod to do that
12:09 < matt1236> ok that's a cmd listerner deamon
12:09 < matt1236> I modified libembios.py idVendor/idProduct was it necessary ?
12:09 < Farthen> nope
12:09 < TheSeven> no
12:09 < TheSeven> it's the embios vendor/product id
12:10 < matt1236> ok
12:10 < Farthen> do you have libusb installed?
12:10 < matt1236> so back to beginning: how to bootstrap my ipod
12:10 < matt1236> yes both 0.1 and 1.0 branches
12:10 < TheSeven> you need to use a precompiled installer before you can build your own one
12:11 < matt1236> ok
12:11 < matt1236> should be on your website
12:11 < matt1236> let me check
12:12 < matt1236> is it iLoader ?
12:13 < TheSeven> http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/installer-nano2g-beta-r229.ipodx
12:14 < matt1236> thanks
12:15 < matt1236> how to apply it ?
12:15 < TheSeven> ipodpatcher -a installer*.ipodx
12:17 < matt1236> don't have this tool, it's not on your svn tree
12:17 < TheSeven> http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/
12:18 < matt1236> yeah I'm on it: svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk/rbutil/ipodpatcher ipodpatcher
12:20 < matt1236> [INFO] Bootloader installer-nano2g-beta-r229.ipodx written to device.
12:22 < matt1236> What to do now?
12:22 < S_a_i_n_t> Follow the installtion instructions of the freemyipod wiki
12:22 < S_a_i_n_t> *installation
12:24 < matt1236> can't see any "installation" page on wiki, is this the Iloader stuff ?
12:24 < TheSeven> http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/
12:24 < TheSeven> grr
12:24 < TheSeven> crappy clipboard
12:24 < TheSeven> http://theseven.freemyipod.org/iloader/installation.php
12:26 < matt1236> thanks, that boots!!
12:27 < S_a_i_n_t> Don't seem so surprised ;)
12:28 < matt1236> Only one partition is great :)
12:29 < matt1236> iLoader terminated on user's request <= how to reboot ?
12:29 < TheSeven> menu+select or sudo python embios/trunk/tools/embios.py reset
12:31 < matt1236> ok so iLoader is like redboot and embios daemon is listening all the time on USB
12:32 * TheSeven doesn't know redboot
12:32 < matt1236> or u-boot
12:32 < TheSeven> embios is a small operating system kernel that's doing the hardware abstraction for "applications" like embios
12:32 < TheSeven> and it has a debugging interface that's accessible via usb
12:33 < TheSeven> "applications" like iloader of course
12:34 < TheSeven> iloader is basically just a simple script processor that's executing the theme file (iloader.cfg)
12:40 < matt1236> my ipod is detected as /dev/sdb (not more /dev/sdb1 + /dev/sdb2) is it normal ?
12:41 < TheSeven> if you removed the firmware partition, yes
12:44 < matt1236> great, it my mp3 files are still there but the IPOD does not see them, it is normal ? The itunedatabase must be rebuilded ?
12:44 < S_a_i_n_t> why did you remove the FW partition if you still want to use iTunes?!?!?
12:45 < matt1236> no I am using Banshee for years but is it not very stable
12:45 < matt1236> for now if I click "left" legacy apple OS stuff is loading 
12:46 < matt1236> eather I'm still using that, or maybe there are some alternatives player frontends already?
12:46 < TheSeven> rockbox
12:46 < TheSeven> and usually the apple firmware should find the music files itself
12:47 < TheSeven> is it the most recent one? (1.1.3 iirc)
12:47 < TheSeven> if not, it needs to be patched
12:47 < TheSeven> (the installer can only patch 1.1.3)
12:47 < matt1236> yes I had 1.1.3
12:48 < TheSeven> hm, that should usually work
12:49 < matt1236> well if can put files in a directory without this database stuff I would be more that happy
12:49 < matt1236> so I need to install rockbox application on my ipod?
12:49 < S_a_i_n_t> rockbox
12:50 < S_a_i_n_t> rockbox will let you put your music files whereever you like, except in the .rockbox dir
12:50 < TheSeven> S_a_i_n_t: in theory even there :)
12:51 < S_a_i_n_t> in theory, yes...but I've seen some crazy tales of it not liking it too much ;)
12:51 < S_a_i_n_t> and you'd need to remove database.ignore
12:51 < TheSeven> matt1236: just extract http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipodnano2g.zip to the root directory of your ipod and boot using the play button
12:55 < matt1236> wow this is amazing
13:00 < matt1236> so rockbox is just using "OS services" provided for emBios ?
13:03 < TheSeven> rockbox and embios are completely independent
13:03 < TheSeven> it has its own kernel
13:06 < TheSeven> hi
13:06 < TheSeven> koik,oü++
13:06 < TheSeven> +
13:15 < matt1236> is there a proper way to quit rockbox ?
13:15 < S_a_i_n_t> hold PLAY
13:16 < matt1236> thanks for your help guys, this is great work
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17:39 < alexandr> hi, ther is any way to enter in FTL when you dont have theme in the iloader? sorry for my bad engrish
17:41 < benedikt93> alexandr, do you mean diskmode?
17:42 < alexandr> nop my ipop i mean the tool thath check the file system and recover the scatered files
17:42 < alexandr> my ipod have the file system corrupted
17:43 < alexandr> and cant conect in diskmode just keep rebooting
17:44 < Farthen> you mean nandfsck?
17:44 < alexandr> yees
17:45 < Farthen> nandfsck does not fix your filesystem
17:45 < alexandr> so my ipod is dead xD
17:46 < Farthen> it is not
17:46 < alexandr> what can i do?
17:46 < Farthen> just enter disk mode and restore with itunes
17:47 < alexandr> the problem is when it enters in discmode the computer not recognoise it and the ipod reboot to the menu for uninstall iloader
17:48 < Farthen> itunes does not recognize it?
17:48 < alexandr> no
17:49 < Farthen> do you see "do not disconnect" on the screen?
17:49 < alexandr> when the mesagge apears it reboots
17:49 < Farthen> that's weird
17:49 < alexandr> the message justh apear 3 or 3 seconds and then rebots
17:50 < Farthen> did it happen to you before? i mean before you installed iloader?
17:50 < alexandr> the most weird is that happens justh after i rebbot rockbox
17:50 < Farthen> how do you reboot rockbox?
17:51 < Farthen> do you use menu+select or do you press and hold play?
17:51 < alexandr> whit the key selct+menu
17:51 < Farthen> do *never* do that
17:52 < Farthen> so in future press and hold the play button
17:52 < Farthen> otherwise it might damage the ftl
17:52 < Farthen> do you see the nandfsck window when you do it?
17:53 < alexandr> thats the reasson why showsme the menu like when you dont have theme?
17:54 < Farthen> probably yes
17:54 < Farthen> so that is how you prevent it in the future
17:54 < Farthen> now on fixing this thing...
17:55 < Farthen> can you restart your ipod and tell me what nandfsck says?
17:56 < alexandr> how i can enter in nandfsck
17:56 < alexandr> ?
18:05 < Farthen> if it does not run your ftl is not damaged
18:05 < Farthen> can you plug your ipod in and start disk mode?
18:06 < Farthen> don't do anthing on your computer
18:06 < Farthen> does your ipod reset
18:06 < Farthen> ?
18:08 < alexandr> yes the ipod just reeset when you put it on diskmode
18:21 < alexandr> hey i need to go, thaks for all the help but i think the problem is hardware, because the ipod is too old
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