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13:29 < benedikt93> johnthegeeks, some assembler and C is useful to really help the project, but you can teach yourself a lot by doing so
13:29 < benedikt93> some basic knowledge is useful of course
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14:12 < Zap_> Hi everyone
14:14 < Zap_> I think I made something stupid, I formatted my ipod and now i can't reinstall rockbox :\
14:15 < [Saint]> boot the device, and use select+play to enter disk mode
14:15 < [Saint]> then restore with iTunes
14:16 < [Saint]> ...probably the easiest way...you've no data to care about.
14:17 < Zap_> I've already done that, but then it appears iloader and ask for the theme
14:18 < Zap_> and when I put the iloader directory in the root
14:18 < Zap_> it says that he can't find iloader.cfg or something like that
14:19 < [Saint]> when it complains about the missing theme, just choose uninstall iLoader
14:19 < [Saint]> then the uninstallation will complete, and you'll have a restored iPod to start again.
14:20 < Zap_> uhm it appears "press play and extract theme, press Menu for more option"
14:20 < [Saint]> press mEnu I believe
14:20 < [Saint]> then you should be able to choose uninstall
14:20 < [Saint]> *Menu
14:21 < Zap_> uhm power off, diskmode, diagmode,nandfsk, ibugger,ildrcfg,bwelco,bwnotthem Iloader -no config file!"
14:22 < Zap_> It's not the normal circular menu, it's like when I first installed it
14:23 < [Saint]> that's the fallback menu
14:23 < Zap_> Can I uninstall from the fallback menu?
14:24 < TheSeven> [Saint]: judging from the messages, this is iloader 0.1
14:24 < [Saint]> you should have the option to from the fallback menu, yes...but I've no idea what version you have installed.
14:24 < [Saint]> TheSeven: I was just clicking on that.
14:25 < TheSeven> Zap_: try the instructions at http://theseven.lima-city.de/ipod/iloader/uninstallation.php
14:25 < TheSeven> that's a copy of the old iloader 0.1 site
14:25 < Zap_> Thank you, I try
14:28 < Zap_> uhm
14:29 < Zap_> "Can't load AUPD"
14:31 < TheSeven> did you restore using itunes first?
14:33 < Zap_> I don't know, I reboot to windows  and try to restore
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14:39 < Zap_> Ok i restored it with Itunes, I forgot the link, could you pass me it again?
14:39 < [Saint]> http://theseven.lima-city.de/ipod/iloader/uninstallation.php
14:39 < Zap_> thank you very much
14:41 < Zap_> It works, thank you :D
14:42 < [Saint]> Now you can update to a much newer/safer version of iLoader
14:42 < Zap_> yes, I'm doing that 
14:43 < TheSeven> just download http://theseven.freemyipod.org/download/installer-nano2g.bootnote into the notes folder of your ipod, safely eject and unplug it
14:43 < TheSeven> the rest will (hopefully) happen by magic :)
14:44 < Zap_> yeah :D
14:44  * [Saint] found the only reproducable thing it doesn't like is when the Rb bootloader is installed.
14:45 < [Saint]> It's frozen on me in times where I forgot to take the bootloader out, then removed the bootloader and it rebooted and tried to launch the bootnote
14:45 < TheSeven> hm
14:45 < TheSeven> having the rb bootloader installed will make it think it was installed using ipodpatcher
14:45 < [Saint]> much much easier to copy it in diskmode, and reset the thing.
14:46 < Zap_> Uhm should I say yes if I don't need apple firmware when it aked for "superfloppy"?
14:46 < TheSeven> oh, wait, the other way round
14:46 < TheSeven> it will think the rockbox bootloader is the OF :)
14:46 < [Saint]> yeah
14:46 < TheSeven> Zap_: that depends on whether you want to use itunes
14:46 < [Saint]> that's what I figured.
14:46 < Zap_> I don't want to use Itunes
14:47 < TheSeven> if you want ~100MB more space, and don't care about itunes, nikepod or mac os, choose yes
14:47 < Zap_> thank you
14:55 < Zap_> I think I miss something, I installed iLoader and then i put the default theme but it says "no config file"
14:56 < TheSeven> how did you install it? using the bootnote?
14:56 < TheSeven> if there is no iloader folder on the ipod, it should do everything by itself
14:57 < TheSeven> if you do it manually, you'll have to use an iloader 0.2.x theme, see http://theseven.freemyipod.org/iloader/themes.php
14:57 < Zap_> I don't know, I install iloader when it come out long time ago, now I updated it
14:58 < Zap_> ahhh
14:58 < Zap_> I'm sorry
14:58 < Zap_> I didn't see the link
14:58 < Zap_> with bootnote
14:58 < Zap_> i reinstalled it with ipodpatcher
14:59 < TheSeven> that should usually also care about the theme
15:02 < Zap_> :\, maybe I installed the theme again without checking if it works without doing anything
15:06 < Zap_> Now works :D thank you
15:12 < Zap_> Can I use the ipod as a pendrive for installing linux on a netbook or is it impossible?with the ipod firmware the bios don't recognize the ipod as a bootable device
15:14 < [Saint]> it should see it as a bootable device in disk-mode
15:14 < [Saint]> so, you should be able to achieve that even with just the Apple FW
15:15 < Zap_> I should try...
15:15 < Zap_> Thank you for all
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15:29 < TheSeven> [Saint]: many BIOSes and bootloaders refuse to boot from devices with a non-512 sector size
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