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17:55 < farlepet> I cant seem to be able to get iLoader to detect my config file
17:56 < TheSeven> can you pastebin the source code somewhere?
17:57 < farlepet> i just tried to use the default one.
17:57 < farlepet> this one: http://theseven.freemyipod.org/download/iloader/iloader.conf
17:57 < TheSeven> and iloader just enters the "no config file" menu?
17:59 < farlepet> When i go the fallback menu and it says no config file
17:59 < TheSeven> hm, that's funny
18:00 < farlepet> i tried to download the default theme also and now it said it could not load the iloader theme
18:00 < TheSeven> you're talking about iLoader v0.2.2 (r250)?
18:01 < farlepet> i think, just got it yesterday
18:01 < TheSeven> and the theme it shipped with worked just fine?
18:01 < farlepet> i just got the menu to load again
18:02 < farlepet> but it says iLoader - no config file! 
18:04 < farlepet> it also now goes right to the fallback menu, i cannot get to the main menu(where you can load apple os or rockbox)
18:04 < TheSeven> so the theme it shipped with works, and the one on the iloader web site doesn't?
18:05 < farlepet> yes, should i reinstall it and try again?
18:06 < TheSeven> what happens if you remove the iloader.cfg file?
18:07 < farlepet> the same thing
18:07 < TheSeven> aha
18:07 < user890104> farlepet: did you compile the .conf file that you downloaded with compileconfig.py to create a iloader.cfg and upload it, or you put iloader.conf straight to your ipod's iLoader folder?
18:08 < TheSeven> if there's no iloader.cfg file on the data flash, it should use "ildrcfg " from the boot flash, and not enter that "no config file" thing
18:08 < farlepet> that might be the problem, where can i get a python compiler?
18:09 < TheSeven> so either it is still seeing a (broken) config file on the data flash (file system corruption?) or the one on the boot flash is also not present or corrupted
18:09 < farlepet> and when i run ildrcfg it freezes 
18:10 < TheSeven> yeah, running that from the fallback menu won't work
18:10 < TheSeven> (a config file can't be executed like a firmware image)
18:10 < farlepet> then what is it?
18:10 < user890104> the compiler is right here: http://svn.freemyipod.org/apps/iloader/tools/compileconfig.py, but you shouldn't need to use it unless you want to make changes to the theme, in that case use the iloader.cfg that is shipped because it's exactly the same as the one that you wolud generate with compileconfig.py
18:11 < farlepet> but, wouldn't i need a python compiler to compile the .py script?
18:12 < user890104> the config that gets installed is already precompiled
18:12 < TheSeven> farlepet: an interpreter, yes.
18:13 < user890104> if you need to make changes, you can modify the file that you posted a link to, then compile it with the python script and finally replace the default config
18:13 < farlepet> yes, but i accidentl replaced it with the uncompiled version
18:13 < TheSeven> you can get that at http://www.python.org (preferably version 2.6/2.7)
18:13 < farlepet> ok
18:13 < TheSeven> farlepet: so what are you trying to do? do you want to make changes to the theme in the end, or just get back the shipped one?
18:14 < farlepet> i want to make some changes, but if i cant get it to work, im okay with the shipped version
18:15 < user890104> so make a backup of the original, and if it doesn't work, enter Disk mode from the fallback menu and restore the backup config
18:16 < farlepet> thats what im going to do, and what is umsboot?
18:19 < farlepet> ?
18:21 < user890104> it is a way to execute some code on the ipod, without installing python, pyusb and libusb
18:21 < user890104> for example if something goes wrong
18:21 < farlepet> what type of code, python?
18:22 < user890104> no
18:22 < user890104> for example, to update iloader/embios
18:23 < farlepet> can you reinstall with that
18:23 < TheSeven> yes
18:23 < TheSeven> just copy the installer file onto it and rename it to something.ubi
18:23 < farlepet> where can you get the ubi file?
18:23 < farlepet> oh
18:24 < TheSeven> you need to use installer.bin (the variant for updating)
18:25 < farlepet> ok
18:27 < farlepet> it said *panic* (new line0 flash io error
18:32 < TheSeven> hm
18:32 < farlepet> now it said *panic* Dir entry 26 in sector 1 is not free! A1 AD 46 46
18:32 < farlepet> (after i tried it again)
18:33 < TheSeven> that all points towards file system corruption...
18:33 < TheSeven> i would suggest reformatting the data partition in disk mode (back up appleos.bin before, if you still want to use the apple firmware), and then copy the theme back onto it
18:34 < farlepet> i had to do a restore before, windows sais it cannot format it
18:37 < TheSeven> huh?
18:37 < TheSeven> because of i/o problems even in disk mode?
18:38 < farlepet> i dont know, it said 'windows could not complete the format'
18:39 < TheSeven> also if you try it on the command line?
18:39 < farlepet> and i cant delete folders, itunned cannot detect it
18:39 < farlepet> no, ill try that
18:40 < TheSeven> did you ever have similar problems before you installed iloader?
18:40 < farlepet> no
18:41 < farlepet> its working
18:41 < TheSeven> and not even itunes detects it?
18:41 < farlepet> but it looks like it will take some time
18:41 < farlepet> itunes wont detect
18:42 < TheSeven> that's very interesting...
18:43 < farlepet> it may work after the format
18:44 < farlepet> its about 1/5th done
18:46 < farlepet> i think the problem was there was a folder named iloader on it
18:46 < farlepet> (witch was impossable to delete
18:46 < TheSeven> the real question is why that happened
18:47 < TheSeven> but if formatting works fine, it's probably just file system corruption, and not FTL corruption
18:48 < farlepet> the command prompt  said 'cannot open folume for direct access'
18:48 < farlepet> *volume
18:48 < farlepet> but it still seems to work
18:52 < farlepet> on iloader, what is the icon on the right?
18:53 < TheSeven> a debugging console
18:53 < farlepet> how do  you get it to work?
18:55 < farlepet> its done
19:00 < farlepet> thankyou for helping
19:02 < TheSeven> it will just print any debug messages that turn up
19:03 < TheSeven> and you can send commands to it via USB (using some python scripts)
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