--- Log opened Thu Jan 13 00:00:37 2011 03:50 -!- TheSeven [~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:53 -!- TheSeven [~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined #freemyipod-support 09:19 -!- S_a_i_n_t [S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.162] has quit [Quit: I'm only going to Heaven if it feels like Hell, I'm only going to Heaven if it tastes like caramel...] 09:24 -!- [Saint] [S_a_i_n_t@203.184.3.69] has joined #freemyipod-support 09:28 -!- [Saint] [S_a_i_n_t@203.184.3.69] has quit [Disconnected by services] 09:28 -!- S_a_i_n_t [S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.61] has joined #freemyipod-support 09:28 -!- S_a_i_n_t is now known as [Saint] 10:20 -!- user890104 [~Venci@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:28b2:318:2b16:10ec] has joined #freemyipod-support 10:35 -!- TheSeven [~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:37 -!- TheSeven|Mobile [~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined #freemyipod-support 11:00 -!- TheSeven|Mobile [~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:12 -!- TheSeven [~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined #freemyipod-support 14:43 -!- windserfer [022621ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.38.33.237] has joined #freemyipod-support 14:43 < windserfer> Hello! 14:44 < TheSeven> windserfer: do i remember correctly that you had trouble with the latest installer? 14:44 < windserfer> theseven r u there? do you think my problem (the lcd not dysplaing properly) is an iloader problem or an embios one? 14:44 < windserfer> yes i have! 14:44 < TheSeven> are you sure that you're using the latest version of umsboot? 14:45 < windserfer> just a sec 14:46 < windserfer> i'm using the one from "Download and extract [1]. " 14:47 < TheSeven> ok, from the latest version of that file? i.e. the ubi file is from the same archive? 14:48 < windserfer> o no i thought it was the same! 14:48 < windserfer> i'm going to try! 15:07 -!- windserfer [022621ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.38.33.237] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:28 -!- Rustyp1981 [5e0b8a7f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.11.138.127] has joined #freemyipod-support 15:28 < Rustyp1981> Hello 15:29 < Rustyp1981> I have an ipod nano 2g that i then installed iloader on 15:30 < Rustyp1981> i then foolishly started playing around with some of the files on there in an atempt to try and get the psgoove payloads to work. 15:31 < Rustyp1981> Now when i boot up the ipod it loads up iloader but when you try to boot into any of the options it eitherhangs or panics 15:32 < Rustyp1981> i can boot into recovery mode where it says conect via usb, 15:32 < Rustyp1981> and this is where i am stuck 15:33 < Rustyp1981> is it salvageable?? 15:41 -!- windserfer [022621ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.38.33.237] has joined #freemyipod-support 15:42 < windserfer> hey 7, you were right! it is installing right now but it lokks good! sorry for the time i made you lose 15:51 -!- benedikt93 [~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93] has joined #freemyipod-support 16:09 -!- windserfer [022621ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.38.33.237] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:10 < TheSeven> Rustyp1981: why do you still want to use psgroove now that geohot's hack is in the wild? ;) 16:11 < TheSeven> what exactly did you play with? just replaced some rockbox files? 16:11 < TheSeven> in that case you should be able to enter disk mode (middle button in the menu) and fix the rockbox installation 16:11 < TheSeven> also 16:12 < TheSeven> which embios version is that? (pressing the right button in the menu should tell you) 16:13 < Rustyp1981> when i try to enter disk mode it hangs 16:14 < TheSeven> that's not good, but it might be a known bug if it's a certain old embios version 16:14 < Rustyp1981> i changed the rockbox.ccl file i think in themes 16:14 < Rustyp1981> the emBIOS loader is v0.1.1 r250 16:15 < TheSeven> hm, that's the latest revision... so disk mode is broken in r250? i can't really believe that 16:15 < TheSeven> could also "just" be some FTL trouble 16:16 < TheSeven> anyway, you'll probably have to install some pc-side tools to get out of that situation 16:16 < TheSeven> which pc OS are you using? 16:16 < Rustyp1981> i have win 7& xp dual boot 16:16 < TheSeven> both of these work equally bad :) 16:17 < TheSeven> Farthen: around? 16:17 < TheSeven> want to help him with the libusb/pyusb installation? :) 16:18 < Rustyp1981> i have a copy of ubuntu knocking around i could install if that makes things easier. Although i am a complete linux n00b. 16:19 < TheSeven> libusb-win32 will probably be the easier way, although windows generally doesn't work too well with those things 16:20 < Rustyp1981> i'll take your word for it. I'm not going to lie, i'm probably going to need to be spoon fed either way. 16:24 < Rustyp1981> just tried to reboot the ipod and enter disk mode and i get *panic* Hit reset vector! 16:25 < TheSeven> there are some brief instructions on how to set up libusb-win32, python and pyusb1.0alpha on windows in this IRC log: http://logs.freemyipod.org/%23freemyipod-support/2010-11/2010-11-19-%23freemyipod-support.log 16:25 < TheSeven> we should probably dedicate a wiki page to that 16:28 < Rustyp1981> *reading* 16:33 < Rustyp1981> I need to rebot due to stupid win 7 driver signing :( I will then workmy way through the rest of the post and report back 16:33 * TheSeven will be back in about an hour 16:37 -!- STeeF [~STeeF@office.hostnetbv.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:38 -!- TheSeven [~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:59 -!- Rustyp1981 [5e0b8a7f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.11.138.127] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:16 -!- Rustyp1981 [5e0b8a7f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.11.138.127] has joined #freemyipod-support 17:31 < Rustyp1981> hello 17:32 < Rustyp1981> i have now installed the windows drivers for the emBIOS 17:32 < Rustyp1981> and download and installed pyton for windows and installed pyusb 17:33 < Rustyp1981> what do i need to do next 17:33 < Rustyp1981> ??? 17:46 < Farthen> Rustyp1981: do the drivers show up in the device manager when you plug in the device? 17:48 < Rustyp1981> yep i have emBIOS monitor under libUSB-Win32 Devices in Device Mangler 17:48 < Farthen> ok 17:50 < Farthen> download http://svn.freemyipod.org/embios/trunk/tools/embiosldr.py and http://svn.freemyipod.org/embios/trunk/tools/libembiosldr.py 17:50 < Rustyp1981> to be saved in the Python files folder,yes/ 17:50 < Rustyp1981> ? 17:51 < Farthen> no, just anywhere on your disk 17:51 < Rustyp1981> ok to the desktop they shall go 17:51 < Farthen> oh, one of these desktop people xD 17:52 < Farthen> well, nevermind. open a cmd windows on your desktop 17:52 < Rustyp1981> Haha indeee ;) 17:52 < Rustyp1981> ok i have the cmd propmt at desktop 17:53 < Farthen> hmm, i need to look at the problem again ;) 17:54 < Rustyp1981> np 17:54 < Farthen> hmm, we'll first just try to run a recent emBIOS to test the tools 17:55 < Farthen> get http://builds.freemyipod.org/embios/target/ipodnano2g/embios-ipodnano2g-r421.bin 17:56 < Rustyp1981> Done 17:56 < Farthen> put it in the same folder and then execute "python embiosldr.py run embios-ipodnano2g-r421.bin" 17:57 < Rustyp1981> 'python' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. 17:57 < Rustyp1981> which is strange as i know it is defo installed 17:57 < Farthen> hmm, it's not in the path 17:57 < Farthen> then just substitute python with "C:\Python27\python.exe" 17:59 < Rustyp1981> C:\Documents and Settings\Russ\Desktop>C:\Python27\python.exe embiosldr.py run e mbios-ipodnano2g-r421.bin Traceback (most recent call last): File "embiosldr.py", line 79, in dev = libembiosldr.embiosldr() File "C:\Documents and Settings\Russ\Desktop\libembiosldr.py", line 52, in __i nit__ raise Exception("Could not find specified device (generation = %d)" % genera tion) Exception: Could n 18:00 < Farthen> can you paste the full error to pastie.org ? 18:00 < Farthen> ah, forget it 18:01 < Farthen> it says it can't find the device 18:01 < Farthen> to there was some error in the device installing process 18:01 < Rustyp1981> http://pastie.org/1457103 18:01 < Farthen> can you type "C:\Python27\python.exe" in the cmd without anything behind? it should start a python prompt 18:02 < Farthen> then do "import usb.core" 18:02 < Rustyp1981> done 18:03 < Farthen> after that "usb.core.find(find_all=True)" 18:03 < Farthen> and tell me what the output i 18:03 < Farthen> *is 18:03 < Rustyp1981> [] 18:03 < Farthen> interesting 18:03 < Farthen> in which mode is your ipod now? 18:04 < Farthen> what does the display say? 18:05 < Rustyp1981> it's at the i loader screen but has frozen 18:05 < Farthen> ah ok 18:05 < Rustyp1981> shall i put it into revovery mode? 18:05 < Farthen> you don't really need to i think 18:06 < Farthen> download http://svn.freemyipod.org/embios/trunk/tools/embios.py http://svn.freemyipod.org/embios/trunk/tools/libembios.py http://svn.freemyipod.org/embios/trunk/tools/libembiosdata.py http://svn.freemyipod.org/embios/trunk/tools/misc.py 18:06 < Farthen> put those four files in one folder and then run "C:\Python27\python.exe embios.py run embios-ipodnano2g-r421.bin" 18:09 < Rustyp1981> http://pastie.org/1457130 18:09 < Farthen> damn, replace run with runfirmware 18:11 < Rustyp1981> http://pastie.org/1457134 18:11 * Farthen fails 18:12 < Farthen> C:\Python27\python.exe embios.py runfirmware 08000000 embios-ipodnano2g-r421.bin 18:12 < Rustyp1981> :( 18:12 < Farthen> that should finally do it ;) 18:12 * Farthen wrote the tool himself but is still always confused by these names ;) 18:13 < Rustyp1981> HAHA! 18:13 < Rustyp1981> bingo 18:13 < Rustyp1981> http://pastie.org/1457142 18:13 < Farthen> yep 18:14 < Farthen> wtf 18:14 < Rustyp1981> ipod screen has also turned white 18:14 < Farthen> now *that's* weird 18:14 < Farthen> please start recovery mode 18:14 < Rustyp1981> with embios v0.1.4 r421 18:14 < Farthen> huh? 18:15 < Farthen> ah ok 18:15 < Rustyp1981> I've rebooted and am now in recovery mode 18:15 < Farthen> ok 18:15 < Farthen> C:\Python27\python.exe embiosldr.py run embios-ipodnano2g-r421.bin 18:15 < Farthen> should bring you embios r421 back 18:17 < Rustyp1981> http://pastie.org/1457154 18:17 < Farthen> ok, so you have embios running again? 18:18 < Rustyp1981> the screen on the ipod is white and just has emBIOS v0.1.4 r421 at the top 18:18 < Farthen> ok, fine 18:18 -!- TheSeven [~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined #freemyipod-support 18:18 < Farthen> TheSeven: python tools are running, any idea what to do now? dump nand? 18:20 < TheSeven> sorry, took a bit longer than expected 18:21 < TheSeven> so this ipod is already r250... what could be blocking disk mode? 18:21 < TheSeven> it might be worth a try to fix rockbox through the embios file i/o api 18:23 < TheSeven> Rustyp1981: i'd suggest extracting a nano2g rockbox build somewhere locally, and running the following commands 18:23 < TheSeven> embios.py rmtree /.rockbox 18:23 < Rustyp1981> ok 18:23 < TheSeven> embios.py uploadtree path-to-local-.rockbox /.rockbox 18:24 < TheSeven> that diskmode fails disturbs me a bit... 18:24 < TheSeven> how does it fail? white screen? or old screen contents, just darker? 18:25 < Rustyp1981> sometimes freezes 18:25 < Rustyp1981> sometimes panics 18:25 < TheSeven> if it freezes, what's on the screen? still the menu or all-white? 18:25 < Rustyp1981> the menu 18:25 -!- asmmonkey [~asmmonkey@185.Red-88-21-175.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #freemyipod-support 18:26 < TheSeven> hmm, weird, we had something similar but i though r250 was before that bug was introduced... 18:26 < TheSeven> thought* 18:27 < TheSeven> oh, and the second command should be puttree, not uploadtree 18:29 < Rustyp1981> Both those comands have completed sucessfully 18:29 < Rustyp1981> :) 18:29 < TheSeven> now run embios.py reset 18:30 < TheSeven> and try to boot rockbox 18:31 < Rustyp1981> Still locks up at iloader screen 18:31 < TheSeven> hm, bugger 18:32 < TheSeven> let's try the more radical way: 18:32 < TheSeven> reboot it, and click the right button in the iloader menu 18:32 < TheSeven> then run embios.py rmtree /.rockbox 18:33 < TheSeven> embios.py rmtree /iLoader 18:33 < TheSeven> er, wait 18:33 < TheSeven> you need to upload the newer embios first 18:33 < TheSeven> embios.py runfirmware 08000000 embios-r421.bin (or whatever it's called) 18:33 < TheSeven> then the other two commands i wrote above 18:34 < TheSeven> then grab http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/installer-nano2g-beta.bin 18:34 < Rustyp1981> i've allready uploaded to the new emBIOS when trying to get the python tools to work with Farthen 18:35 < TheSeven> yeah, but only until the next reboot 18:35 < TheSeven> so download the file i linked above and run those commands: 18:35 < TheSeven> embios.py runfirmware 08000000 embios-r421.bin (or whatever it's called) 18:35 < TheSeven> embios.py rmtree /.rockbox 18:36 < TheSeven> embios.py rmtree /iLoader 18:36 < TheSeven> embios.py runfirmware 08000000 installer-nano2g-beta.bin 18:40 < Rustyp1981> oh right, sorry http://pastie.org/1457248 18:41 < TheSeven> ignore that error 18:42 < TheSeven> the ipod apparently had already disappeared before libusb had a chance to shut down the connection 18:42 < Rustyp1981> ok, just going through the other commands now 18:45 < Rustyp1981> ok done 18:45 < Rustyp1981> got the same disconect error after the last command, just ignor that again/ 18:45 < Rustyp1981> ? 18:46 < TheSeven> yep, the installer should now be installing files and flashing the new embios version 18:49 < Rustyp1981> "could not load iLoadertheme. It was probably deleated. Please choose option below:" 18:49 < Rustyp1981> is on the screen of the ipod 18:54 < Rustyp1981> with the options 18:54 < Rustyp1981> unistall iLoader 18:54 < Rustyp1981> Enter disk mode 18:54 < Rustyp1981> RUn UMSboot 18:55 < Rustyp1981> Quit iLoader 18:55 < Rustyp1981> Power off 18:55 < TheSeven> wtf 18:55 < TheSeven> why didn't it install the files... 18:55 < Rustyp1981> *shrugs* 18:55 < TheSeven> does disk mode work now? 18:56 < Rustyp1981> Indeed 18:56 < Rustyp1981> :D 18:58 < Rustyp1981> so can i now restore with itunes 18:58 < Rustyp1981> ? 19:00 < TheSeven> what do you want to do in the end? have a working rockbox / OF / dualboot? 19:00 < Rustyp1981> i would like to have i loader with dual boot 19:01 < TheSeven> do you have itunes around? 19:01 < TheSeven> and do you have a copy of appleos.bin? 19:02 < Rustyp1981> i have i tunes but not appleos.bin 19:02 < TheSeven> ok, the easiest way will be uninstalling and reinstalling in that case 19:03 < TheSeven> as you apparently had trouble with r250, i would suggest doing the reinstallation using the beta installer 19:04 < Rustyp1981> ok 19:04 < TheSeven> you'll need http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/installer-nano2g-beta.ipodx for that 19:05 < Rustyp1981> ok, i've downloaded that file 19:05 < Rustyp1981> do i need to put it on the root of the ipod 19:06 < TheSeven> no, use it like the regular installer 19:06 < TheSeven> i.e. run ipodpatcher -a installer-nano2g-beta.ipodx after restoring :D 19:09 < Rustyp1981> ok, just restoring now 19:26 < Rustyp1981> hmm every thing went ok until after i run ipodpatcher -a installer-nano2g-beta.ipodx 19:27 < Rustyp1981> when the ipod reboots i just get a white screen with "embios v0.1.4 r392m 19:31 < TheSeven> so the apple os flashed its bootloader and booted up properly, and then you ran ipodpatcher with the apple firmware running? 19:32 < Rustyp1981> yep now it's reset and wont turn on at all 19:32 < Rustyp1981> :( 19:41 < Rustyp1981> Bricked?? 19:45 < TheSeven> any USB reaction? 19:45 < Rustyp1981> nope 19:46 < Rustyp1981> nothing 19:46 < Rustyp1981> tried all 4 ports 19:46 < Rustyp1981> and 2 cables 19:46 < TheSeven> try plugging it in, locking the hold switch, waiting a few seconds, unlocking it again, and then holding menu+select for 5-10 seconds 19:47 < TheSeven> any noticeable reaction? 19:49 < Rustyp1981> nothing :( 19:49 < TheSeven> how on earth did you manage to do this? 19:49 < TheSeven> i have never seen that happen before 19:49 < TheSeven> can you describe every step you've done after restoring? 19:49 < Rustyp1981> opps 19:49 < Rustyp1981> just checked command window 19:51 < Rustyp1981> http://pastie.org/1457538 19:52 < TheSeven> so you restored it, uninstalled iloader, ran ipodpatcher, and rebooted it? 19:52 < Rustyp1981> yep 19:52 < TheSeven> and then the installer locked up with the embios version message and nothing else on the screen? 19:53 < TheSeven> and then you tried to boot embios r421 through embios.py? what happened then? 19:53 < Rustyp1981> apple logo came up and then disappeared 19:53 < Rustyp1981> then it wouldn't turn on 19:54 < TheSeven> the apple logo came up after the embios.py runfirmware command? or at which point? 19:56 < Rustyp1981> I ran all the commands in that ^^ pastie, in that order. then when it locked on the white screen i held select and menu to reboot 19:56 < Rustyp1981> the applelogo came up then disapeared 19:56 < Rustyp1981> now won't switch on 19:56 < TheSeven> what did it do when you ran the embios.py runfirmware 08000000 embios-ipodnano2g-r421.bin command? 19:57 < Rustyp1981> rebooted to the white screeen 19:57 < TheSeven> and what was on the screen before that? 19:58 < Rustyp1981> it was in disk mode so i could run ipodpatcher 19:58 < TheSeven> and then? 19:59 < TheSeven> in every detail, what did you do from that point on? 19:59 < Rustyp1981> i ran the patcher with the ipod in disc mode 19:59 < Rustyp1981> ejected the ipod 19:59 < Rustyp1981> turned ipod on 20:00 < TheSeven> ok, what happened at that point? 20:00 < TheSeven> what was on the lcd? 20:00 < Rustyp1981> got white screen with embios v0.1.4 r329 20:01 < TheSeven> ok, and at that point you ran the runfirmware command? 20:01 < Rustyp1981> yes 20:02 < Rustyp1981> then the apple logo came on the screen 20:02 < Rustyp1981> and disapeared 20:03 < TheSeven> and then you tried to reboot but nothing happened? 20:03 < Rustyp1981> did this a couple of times, like it was trying to reboot? then just stayed off 20:03 -!- user890104 [~Venci@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:28b2:318:2b16:10ec] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:06 -!- asmmonkey [~asmmonkey@185.Red-88-21-175.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: bx lr] 20:07 < Rustyp1981> and thats where i am now 20:09 < TheSeven> hm 20:10 < TheSeven> if you're lucky it just got stuck in way that prevents the clickwheel reset combo from working 20:10 < Rustyp1981> and if i'm not? 20:10 < TheSeven> it might be some apple bootloader bug that you're hitting 20:11 < TheSeven> an i have absolutely no explanation what might be going on 20:12 < Rustyp1981> anything we can try or shouldi just take it back and try and blag a replacement 20:12 < Rustyp1981> ? 20:13 < TheSeven> for a nano2g? i doubt you'll get a replacement for that 20:13 < Rustyp1981> i only brought it used day from cex came with 12month warrenty 20:14 < TheSeven> first of all, i would let it sit for at least 48 hours without external power 20:14 < Rustyp1981> *brought it used, yesterday 20:14 < TheSeven> maybe it is just stuck in weird way until the battery runs down 20:15 < TheSeven> if that doesn't help, you could try sending it back or opening it up, shorting two testpoints and re-flash it 20:15 < Rustyp1981> how hard is shorting and reflashing/ 20:15 < Rustyp1981> ? 20:16 < TheSeven> opening these things up is a tedious task, and the testpoints on the board are quite tiny 20:17 < Rustyp1981> hmmm...yeah i'm just watching a video on youtube about opening, i have all the tools required by the looksof it. 20:17 < Rustyp1981> do the points have to be shorted using solder 20:18 < Rustyp1981> i'm half tempted to take it back, but even more tempted to have a bash at fixing it as i don't like to be beaten lol 20:18 < TheSeven> not neccessarily, but it might actually be easier that way 20:18 < TheSeven> these things are *damn* tiny 20:19 < Rustyp1981> hmmm... 20:19 < TheSeven> http://www.freemyipod.org/w/images/f/fe/Bot_annote.jpg 20:19 < Rustyp1981> i think i shall heed your advise and leave it for the 48h first and take it from there 20:20 < TheSeven> connect TP15 to TP16 20:23 < Rustyp1981> hmm...i'm going to leave it for a couple of days. Then have a bash at fixing it. It hard to get an idea of scale but i'm guessing the point are to small to bridge with a pair of tweazers 20:24 < Rustyp1981> ? 20:24 -!- user890104 [~Venci@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:28b2:318:2b16:10ec] has joined #freemyipod-support 20:30 < Rustyp1981> ANyway, i need to eat but i thank you for all your help. I'll let you know how i get on, fingers crossed it's just stuck in a loop :) 20:45 -!- Rustyp1981 [5e0b8a7f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.11.138.127] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:48 -!- user890104 [~Venci@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:28b2:318:2b16:10ec] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:10 -!- benedikt93 [~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93] has quit [Quit: Bye ;)] 21:12 -!- asmmonkey [~asmmonkey@185.Red-88-21-175.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #freemyipod-support 21:50 -!- user890104 [~Venci@2001:0:4137:9e76:c7f:3a54:2b16:10ec] has joined #freemyipod-support 21:56 -!- asmmonkey [~asmmonkey@185.Red-88-21-175.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: bx lr] 23:06 -!- liar [~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Jan 14 00:00:38 2011