--- Log opened Sun Feb 06 00:00:22 2011
00:00 < TheSeven> hm, ipodpatcher corrupting something? haven't heard of that yet
00:01 < sk8nick> is there a more detailed way to install i saw there was a note based install?
00:02 < TheSeven> hm, that might be an idea
00:03 < sk8nick> so how exactly would we go about that i had rockbox but then formatted the ipod thinking it would fix it sadly i was mistaken haha
00:04 < sk8nick> by fix it i mean the installer would work
00:04 < TheSeven> did you have iloader installed previously?
00:04 < TheSeven> or the rockbox bootloader?
00:04 < TheSeven> if iloader, did you uninstall it?
00:04 < sk8nick> i had the rockbox bootloader
00:05 < sk8nick> im trying to get iloader
00:05 < TheSeven> ok
00:05 < TheSeven> http://theseven.freemyipod.org/download/installer-nano2g.bootnote
00:05 < TheSeven> throw that into the /notes folder on the ipod and eject it
00:05 < sk8nick> sick thank you so much i hope it works
00:06 < sk8nick> also what is the umsboot i saw it on the website and was curious
00:08 < sk8nick> do i just copy and paste everything into notes
00:08 < TheSeven> just download the file into the notes folder
00:09 < TheSeven> umsboot is basically a ramdisk that connects like a usb pendrive, and if it's ejected, it looks for a file on itself and boots that :)
00:11 < sk8nick> it has a bunch of coding encryption and an "a" that says its a link but when i click it says Forbidden You don't have permission to access /download/INSTAL~1BOO 4d on this server
00:13 < sk8nick> waaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiit put the link in the notes
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00:15 < TheSeven> er, you should download that bootnote file, not open it in a web browser
00:15 < sk8nick> MY IPOD IS SINGING TO ME!!!!!!!!!! BEEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP WTF
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00:16 < TheSeven> one long and then a few short beeps, repeatedly?
00:16 < TheSeven> if yes, how many short ones?
00:17 < sk8nick> one long 7 short
00:19 < TheSeven> that basically means "notes folder not found"
00:19 < TheSeven> can you try deleting and re-creating the notes folder?
00:20 < sk8nick> yep
00:21 < sk8nick> one sec i know i sound retarded but im confused as to how to download the link
00:21 < sk8nick> like you want me to
00:21 < TheSeven> just download the file i sent you a link to
00:21 < TheSeven> and save it to the notes folder
00:22 < sk8nick> how do you download when i click on the link it brings me to the coding thing
00:23 < sk8nick> the ipod has stopped singing
00:24 < TheSeven> right click => save link target or whatever
00:24 < sk8nick> yeah i did that it says its an aol html doc
00:26 < sk8nick> then when i put it in notes it starts singing 
00:27 < TheSeven> hm, apparently it fails to find the file
00:27 < Farthen> which web browser do you use?
00:27 < TheSeven> i'd suggest restoring using itunes again, and then trying again
00:27 < TheSeven> something is probably messed up with your ipod's partitioning / file system
00:27 < sk8nick> internet explorer 8
00:29 < sk8nick> can it be fixed?
00:29 < sk8nick> just restored it
00:30 < sk8nick> after i save target as the icon is aol is that supposed to be that
00:31 < TheSeven> wait, how exactly is that file called?
00:31 < TheSeven> did something append a .htm[l] prefix?
00:32 < sk8nick> yeah it says its an html document when i save target as
00:33 < TheSeven> that's not a good idea
00:33 < TheSeven> it's a binary file
00:34 < sk8nick> so what do i to fix it
00:35 < TheSeven> download it with something sane
00:35 < sk8nick> sane?
00:35 < TheSeven> good old wget, for example
00:35 < TheSeven> or any download manager
00:35 < Farthen> or just leave it like that. iloader does not give you huge advantages over the rockbox bootloader
00:36 < TheSeven> maybe firefox, don't know if that one messes it up as well
00:36 < TheSeven> Farthen: the rockbox bootloader doesn't install for him as well, because of ipodpatcher trouble
00:36 < Farthen> ah
00:40 < sk8nick> what should it be downloaded as
00:45  * TheSeven fails to interpret that question
00:45 < TheSeven> a binary file, or what do you mean?
00:47 < user890104> sk8nick: can you try to download it from this link: http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=5e07f4b304
00:47 < user890104> just click on "installer-nano2g.zip"
00:47 < user890104> the archive contains the file you need
00:48 < sk8nick> thank you it wants me to log in and its in a different language haha what do i do
00:48 < user890104> don't look the other text, just click the file name in the center
00:50 < user890104>  installer-nano2g.zip	06.02.2011 02:45	3.24 MB << on this line, click "installer-nano2g.zip" and it should start downloading
00:51 < sk8nick> why is my computer so stuupid i just goes to the login
00:51 < sk8nick> even though i click on it 
00:51 < user890104> it shouldn't require any login, just give you a file list with just one file
00:53 < user890104> http://rapidshare.com/files/446425938/installer-nano2g.zip try this one then
00:54 < user890104> i can also email it to you, if you can't get it this way
00:56 < sk8nick> haha i think this might actually work i love how everything that could go wron does
00:56 < sk8nick> wrong
01:03 < sk8nick> well, another thing went wrong when i try to open the download with winzip it says invalid archive
01:16 < sk8nick> it beeped a couple times flashes white the says emBIOS v0.1.4 r393m the rest is a blank white screen what is that?
01:19 < sk8nick> anyone?
01:30 < sk8nick> please help i cant get iloader theme
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01:33 < sk8nick> anybody
01:38 < sk8nick> im i really wrong is that what its suppossed to do 
01:38 < sk8nick> am i*
01:47 < sk8nick> is this the bootloader
01:47 < sk8nick> iloader?
01:58 < sk8nick> i didnt get any onscreen instrctions
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04:56 < platnicat> Hey
04:57 < platnicat> Anyone know where I can get the iLoader 0.1 default theme?
04:57 < platnicat> I'm running way behind on my nano
04:57 < platnicat> And apparently you need a theme to update
04:58 < platnicat> Oh, you're all busy?
04:58 < platnicat> Damn
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05:04 < platnicat> Anyone?
05:20 < platnicat> Hey/
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09:23 < TheSeven> platnicat: http://theseven.freemyipod.org/download/iloader/themes/iloader-theme-default-0.1.2.zip
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15:01 < sobral> hello
15:01 < sobral> i was wondering if I could get some help regarding the iloader
15:02 < TheSeven> that certainly depends on the kind of help that you need :)
15:03 < sobral> well, after installing I chose to remove the partition to save extra MB
15:03 < sobral> and after a while, it gave me a Panic/data flash error
15:04 < sobral> I didn't find this specific error on the FAQ, and I'm unsure what to do
15:04 < TheSeven> what was it doing when that error came up?
15:05 < sobral> it was deleting the iPod partition to save up space
15:05 < TheSeven> so the data flash error appeared directly after answering that prompt?
15:05 < TheSeven> or was it already showing "repartitioning" for some time?
15:05 < sobral> it was repartition for a while, yes
15:07 < TheSeven> this might actually mean that there was some file system corruption that trapped it
15:07 < TheSeven> like something pointing to a sector number that's out of bounds
15:07 < sobral> i see
15:07 < TheSeven> and while trying to access that, the driver reported an error of course, leading to that panic
15:07 < sobral> should I boot q parted and try to format the ipod drive?
15:08 < TheSeven> the half-repartitioned filesystem that we now have is probably useless anyway, i'd just restore using itunes and start over
15:08 < sobral> I can't access it using windows
15:08 < sobral> i can't get itunes to recognize it either
15:08 < TheSeven> is it still in that paniced state?
15:08 < sobral> Windows recognizes it as mbios debugger
15:08 < sobral> yes
15:09 < TheSeven> press and hold menu+select until it reboots
15:09 < TheSeven> it will probably show "use itunes to restore" and enter disk mode
15:09 < TheSeven> at that point, itunes should catch it and reset it to factory state
15:09 < TheSeven> after that, run ipodpatcher again and hope that it works better this time
15:09 < sobral> it worked ^^
15:09 < sobral> thank you a lot
15:09 < sobral> i will try it again
15:10 < sobral> good luck with the project and again, thank you for your time and help
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20:43 < Kebianizao> Hello
20:43 < Kebianizao> let's say I have used the notes exploit, how do I go back to the "regular" mode?
20:43 < Kebianizao> I know I need to remove the note from the DFU mode, but I can't figure out how
20:47 < TheSeven> which ipod is that?
20:47 < Kebianizao> nano4g
20:47 < TheSeven> you need to remove it from emcore/embios/disk mode, not dfu mode
20:48 < Kebianizao> ah, I see now
20:48 < TheSeven> the nano4g doesn't have storage drivers yet, so disk mode is your only option
20:50 < Kebianizao> ok, then I'll need to inspect command sending to emcore
20:52 < Kebianizao> once I have emcore running: python emcore.py rmdir Notes ?
20:52 < TheSeven> i just said that emcore doesn't even have storage drivers for the nano 4g yet
20:52 < Kebianizao> I want to make sure I can revert the exploit before actually doing it
20:52 < Kebianizao> oh :S
20:53 < Kebianizao> then I'm not sure I understand what you mean with disk mode
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21:02 < benedikt93> Kebianizao, the disk mode of the apple fw
21:02 < Kebianizao> isn't that DFU mode?
21:02 < benedikt93> nope
21:03 < benedikt93> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Modes#Disk_mode
21:04 < Kebianizao> well, http://www.ipodlinux.org/wiki/Key_Combinations is down :(
21:05 < user890104> Kebianizao: http://ipl.derpapst.eu/wiki/Key_Combinations
21:05 < TheSeven> to enter disk mode, hold select+play immediately after resetting
21:05 < user890104> here's a mirror of it
21:06 < TheSeven> to enter DFU mode, hold menu+select until it seems to power off (10-12 seconds)
21:08 < Kebianizao> yeah! I have it :)
21:08 < Kebianizao> How could I fix the wiki?
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21:23 < Kebianizao> umm, I have wrote the n4g-ibugger.bootnote to the Notes dir, but when the device tries to go the normal operation mode, where regular menus are, it resets, goes back to the apple logo like it were crashing and reseting. This repeats forever
21:23 < Kebianizao> looks the only way to get out of the loop is to remove the note in disk mode
21:24 < user890104> Kebianizao, yes this is the only way now
21:24 < benedikt93> which is because the notes exploit is triggered on each reboot when the OFW loads some of the notes on the disk
21:25 < TheSeven> Kebianizao: probably your OF version is too new
21:25 < Kebianizao> how could I check that? diag menu?
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21:25 < TheSeven> the about screen in the settings somewhere
21:26 < TheSeven> hm, or rather too old
21:26 < TheSeven> too new would just ignore the bootnote
21:26 < Kebianizao> versin 1.0 PC?
21:26 < TheSeven> don't upgrade to the latest one though
21:26 < TheSeven> 1.0.3 or something is the one the exploit was made for
21:28 < Kebianizao> in the diag menu->about: SrNm, FwId, MLBN, Mod#, Regn, EFI version, NAND # of LBA, NAND block size
21:28 < Kebianizao> the closer number I can see is Regn: 1 0 2 0 "* 0 1
21:29 < TheSeven> diagmode won't help you here
21:30 < Kebianizao> in the regular menu: settings->about I just see serial, model and the version I wrote before
21:34 < user890104> Kebianizao: use this version to update 1.0 to 1.0.3: http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPod/SBML/osx/bundles/061-5583.20081111.Bhyui/iPod_31.1.0.3.ipsw
21:34 < user890104> the latest 1.0.4 is not supported
21:34 < Kebianizao> I understand now
21:34 < Kebianizao> can I upgrade w/o itunes? (I'm on Debian)
21:35 < user890104> it could be possible in theory, but hard to do
21:35 < user890104> if you can run a virtual machine with windows, it would be much easier
21:36 < user890104> or if you have access to another pc/mac
21:36 < Kebianizao> I may try if I see I'm unable, what about this procedure: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Nano4G_firmware_upgrade_process ?
21:40 < user890104> well if you can reproduce it somehow, it should be the way to go
21:40 < user890104> i don't know if anyone has written a tool for this yet
21:41 < Kebianizao> I'll try to use scsirastool as that says
21:44 < Kebianizao> where can I read about general firmware layout so I can have an overview on how it works
21:51 < user890104> this is about how the firmware is stored, is has a section about nano 4g: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Extracting_firmware
21:53 < Kebianizao> well, mine's a confusing question, I'll read some more before I focus on that
21:54 < Kebianizao> BTW, what's the status of the pwnage exploit? could it work on my nano4g?
22:03 < user890104> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Pwnage_2.0
22:03 < user890104> The iPod Classic and Nano lines are vulnerable to Pwnage 2.0, but this vulnerability has been patched starting with the Nano 5G.
22:07 < Kebianizao> problem is that after reading the article I don't know how to proceed 
22:07 < Kebianizao> what's the file I should upload?
22:08 < Kebianizao> I mean, what after I have the WTF file?
22:08 < user890104> the exploit code is contained in a modified WTF stage file
22:09 < user890104> and you add your own code to be executed at a specified address in the file
22:09 < user890104> then replace ASCII "ADDR" somewhere at the end of the file with the address where your code is located
22:10 < Kebianizao> but is there any public code for doing anything valuable with the exploit?
22:10 < user890104> i think that the exploit itself is not posted due to copyright issues
22:11 < user890104> well, if someone knows how to interact with ipod's hardware, he could do pretty much everything on the device using this exploit
22:11 < user890104> but the proccess of examining OF and the hardware on this devices is not that easy
22:11 < user890104> here's the status so far: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Status
22:12 < Kebianizao> how big the payload could be? would emcore fits there? 
22:15 < TheSeven> [23:10] <user890104> i think that the exploit itself is not posted due to copyright issues << i've cleaned that up and published it
22:15 < TheSeven> [23:10] <Kebianizao> but is there any public code for doing anything valuable with the exploit? << no, because we don't know enough about the hardware yet
22:16 < TheSeven> [23:12] <Kebianizao> how big the payload could be? would emcore fits there? up to ~127.5KB, and yes, emcore would fit, but couldn't run from DFU because the hardware is not initialized properly at that stage
22:16 < TheSeven> we'll probably go down that route once we know how to init all those things
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22:40 < Kebianizao> TheSeven: what's initializing HW for emcore? FW/note explot/...?
22:42 < TheSeven> currently the OF
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22:57 < Kebianizao> sorry, OF?
23:02 < Kebianizao> I have to leave, thanks. c u
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