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07:55 < aldinor> Hello, I installed iLoader and Rockbox 2 days ago. Last Time I put some music file (m4a) and a custom Rockbox Database view file on the iPod. Now when I boot my iPod the iLoader loads, then I can choose Rockbox, Rockbox now says scanning disk and then I get a Data abort at 0801B6AC FSR 0xF7 (domain 15, fault 7) address 0x960C80A4. Problem is, the Partition for the .rockbox folder and my Music is not recognised (not on Li
07:56 < aldinor> When I installed the ILoader it also Formatted the device, is it possible to format it again with a modified UBI file?
08:34 < TheSeven> aldinor: yes, either that, or just remove the rockbox folder using the emcore usb interface
08:34 < TheSeven> which OS are you using?
08:37 < aldinor> either linux or windows, but i would prefer a custom ubi file.
08:38 < aldinor> but if i upload the install ubi then it only flashes the rom and doesn't format anything
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09:27 < TheSeven> aldinor: if you manage to install pyusb 1.0.0 on linux and grab some files from our svn, you can access the ipod's data partition even if rockbox doesn't boot
09:28 < aldinor> ok 
09:28 < aldinor> i got pyusb
09:29 < aldinor> so where do i go from there?
09:31 < TheSeven> aldinor: version 1.0.0? most distros today have something older installed
09:31 < TheSeven> svn co http://svn.freemyipod.org/embios/trunk/tools
09:32 < TheSeven> and then run "sudo python embios.py ls /" from that tools folder
09:32 < aldinor> ah you'r right just a sec
09:32 < TheSeven> (while being in the boot menu)
09:33 < TheSeven> to remove the .rockbox tree, run "sudo python embios.py rmtree /.rockbox"
09:34 < TheSeven> then download a current rockbox build (http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipodclassic.zip) and extract it somewhere
09:34 < TheSeven> finally run "sudo python embios.py puttree /path/to/extracted/.rockbox /.rockbox"
09:34 < TheSeven> after that, you should be able to boot rockbox again
09:36 < TheSeven> in some cases it can also be sufficient to reset the configuration by running "sudo python embios.py rm /.rockbox/config.cfg", you might want to try that first
09:36 < aldinor> thanks
09:47 < aldinor> that did it
09:47 < aldinor> much appreciated, great, you don't know how happy i am!
09:52 < aldinor> does rockbox support m4a?
09:52 < aldinor> or should i ask rockbox this?
09:53 < TheSeven> aldinor: yes, it does
09:53 < TheSeven> it supports like 20 or even more codecs
09:53 < aldinor> thanks again
09:54 < TheSeven> aldinor: what exactly did the trick? removing the config file, or the full .rockbox folder?
09:54 < aldinor> yea that's why i wanted rockbox instead of apple's firmware
09:54 < aldinor> i only tried removing the full rockbox folder
09:55 < aldinor> don't know if just the config would have done the job
09:55 < aldinor> i don't even know what exactly caused the error, the database itself or a custom view database config
09:56  * TheSeven strongly suspects the database itself
09:56 < TheSeven> also, you'll probably experience corrupted metadata display now
09:56 < aldinor> probably because the error was just after scanning disk s
09:56 < TheSeven> there's currently a bug regarding that in svn, which also affects the current rockbox-ipodclassic.zip file
09:57 < TheSeven> i've proposed a fix tonight, so I hope that this will be fixed during the next day
09:57 < aldinor> well it is still in development
09:57 < aldinor> thanks
09:57 < TheSeven> so you might want to update it again tomorrow
09:57 < aldinor> yeah i will
09:57 < aldinor> how often do you change things?
09:58 < TheSeven> this will probably also crash the database during init currently, so i'd stay away from that until after that bug has been smacked
09:58 < TheSeven> see http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11955 for details, it should be announced there once it's fixed
09:58 < aldinor> i have decided to use rockbox without database for now until it is more stable
09:58  * TheSeven changes things all the time :)
09:59 < TheSeven> with that patch applied i did a quick test of indexing ~2000 songs, and it worked, while it did crash yesterday
10:00 < aldinor> one more question, is the upload of data on the ipod somehow slow or is that just my imagination?
10:01 < TheSeven> uploading small files through embios.py is awfully slow, yes
10:01 < TheSeven> USB mass storage works reasonably well, but might still be a bit slower than the apple firmware
10:01 < TheSeven> (in rockbox)
10:02 < aldinor> thanks
10:02  * TheSeven needs to head to work :)
10:03 < aldinor> one more bug i noticed was that when i first played a .mp3 or .ogg file that it said codec missing, then it played the next song and it worked fine, when i then played the first one again it worked
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10:20 < bicyclerepairman> ey up. I have an iPod with a non-functioning keypad.
10:20 < bicyclerepairman> none of the button work,
10:20 < bicyclerepairman> and nor does the swirly thing.
10:20 < bicyclerepairman> the circular finger-sensor thing.
10:21 < bicyclerepairman> Can I install linux on it or do I need that to enter the "Disk Mode"?
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10:42 < bicyclerepairman> hmm,
10:43 < bicyclerepairman> seems the installer for iLoader is not available for Linux anyway
10:47 < TheSeven> bicyclerepairman: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Talk:IPod_Classic_iLoader_Installation#Other_Platforms
10:48 < TheSeven> even on http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/IPod_Classic_iLoader_Installation there are linux instructions
10:49 < bicyclerepairman> TheSeven, thank you
10:49 < bicyclerepairman> did not see that.
10:49 < bicyclerepairman> do you know if there's a way to put the thing in DFU mode without using the buttons?
10:50 < TheSeven> yes, by corrupting the boot flash data :P
10:50 < TheSeven> why?
10:50 < bicyclerepairman> mine aren't working at all.
10:50 < TheSeven> what do you want to do with it then?
10:50 < bicyclerepairman> (so I wanted to put linux on it and do something useful with the thing.)
10:51 < TheSeven> well if you can't even reboot it any more, that won't be easy
10:52 < TheSeven> also, what kind of ipod is it exactly?
10:52 < bicyclerepairman> it's a nano 2g.
10:53 < TheSeven> oh, then there isn't even really a usable dfu mode
10:53 < TheSeven> unless you open it up and do some soldering
10:54 < bicyclerepairman> my soldering experience is limited to making simple wires. I've made a null modem cable and some similar stuff. Will I have difficulties inside?
10:55 < TheSeven> well, you'll need a very tiny wire and solder it to a rather small pad on the pcb
10:55 < bicyclerepairman> aha.
10:55 < TheSeven> then you'll need a 10kOhm or something resistor and access to the +5V pin from the USB bus
10:55 < TheSeven> that way you can force it into dfu mode, and install basically anything from there
10:56 < TheSeven> however this doesn't really solve the problem of not being able to reboot it
10:56 < TheSeven> you might as well try to repair/replace the clickwheel
10:56 < bicyclerepairman> you're right.
10:56 < bicyclerepairman> I think I'll try to do that.
10:56 < TheSeven> are only the buttons not working or also the wheel surface?
10:57 < bicyclerepairman> the surface also seems not to be working.
10:57 < TheSeven> hmm
10:57 < TheSeven> if you're very lucky, that might just be a loose connector then
10:57 < TheSeven> or maybe a broken hold switch
10:57 < bicyclerepairman> the hold switch works OK
10:57 < bicyclerepairman> I see the padlock show up and disappear :-)
10:58 < TheSeven> is the audio jack dead as well?
11:00 < bicyclerepairman> I don't think so
11:02 < TheSeven> does it detect if headphones are plugged?
11:02 < TheSeven> it might be this connector: http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/Installing-iPod-Nano-2nd-Generation-Display/421/4
11:06 < bicyclerepairman> well,
11:06 < bicyclerepairman> I plugged my headphones in and nothing happened,
11:06 < bicyclerepairman> do they need to be the apple ones?
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