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10:48 < HiddeBoomsma> STeeF, when mounting UMI and uploading the classic image it stays at the white emBIOS screen. When I reboot, I'm  back at the ipodclassic image. I could try flashing the device again via DFU
10:51 < TheSeven> HiddeBoomsma: sounds like an unsupported LCD
10:51 < TheSeven> there's one type left that i haven't personally seen yet, and someone else has already reported similar trouble recently
10:52 < HiddeBoomsma> Mine worked very well a few weeks ago, it even played ogg (ipod classic 80GB)
10:52 < HiddeBoomsma> so ill put that loader back on
10:52 < HiddeBoomsma> :)
10:52 < TheSeven> huh?
10:52 < TheSeven> that's interesting
10:52 < TheSeven> wait a second
11:03 < TheSeven> HiddeBoomsma: I just updated http://files.freemyipod.org/misc/installer-ipodclassic.ubi
11:03 < TheSeven> can you try if that one works again?
11:03 < HiddeBoomsma> sure
11:06 < HiddeBoomsma> It flashes nice, all the colors are right, it also reboots. The backlight seems to be a little less bright now. Starting rockbox still results in a ATA error: -11
11:08 < TheSeven> ok
11:08 < TheSeven> so i've found the cause
11:08 < TheSeven> HiddeBoomsma: i've updated it once again. can you try it again and compare contrast of the boot menu between those two versions?
11:09 < TheSeven> (if it works at all)
11:09 < HiddeBoomsma> sure
11:10 < HiddeBoomsma> the contrast is the same as with the version before
11:10 < TheSeven> ok
11:10 < HiddeBoomsma> it does also the same things
11:11 < HiddeBoomsma> :)
11:11 < HiddeBoomsma> so it still boots
11:13 < TheSeven> HiddeBoomsma: next one ;)
11:13 < TheSeven> (i'm fine tuning power consumption vs. display quality)
11:14 < HiddeBoomsma> :) nice
11:14 < HiddeBoomsma> it was readable though
11:16 < TheSeven> so the one from 3 minutes ago works as well?
11:16 < HiddeBoomsma> I can't see much difference, it is bright enough to read. It is a lot less bright than the startup image
11:16 < HiddeBoomsma> jups
11:17 < HiddeBoomsma> that one is readable to
11:17 < TheSeven> i don't care about brightness, but about the colors
11:17 < HiddeBoomsma> only rockbox won't start :)
11:17 < HiddeBoomsma> colors are ok
11:17 < TheSeven> if i put the voltage too low, they will start to be greyish or even white
11:17 < HiddeBoomsma> only the first one i got behaves weird
11:17 < HiddeBoomsma> a i got very many colors like if the colormap was wrong
11:18 < TheSeven> was that a fluke?
11:20 < HiddeBoomsma> it worked sometimes :) It would work most of the boot times
11:20 < HiddeBoomsma> but when installing for the first time the colors where like a rainbow :P
11:24 < TheSeven> that's a different issue though
11:25 < TheSeven> but contrast is still ok?
11:25 < HiddeBoomsma> yes, contrast is ok
11:25 < HiddeBoomsma> I managed to get the old firmware back and working.
11:26 < HiddeBoomsma> It even still has my modified background
11:26 < HiddeBoomsma> rockbox that is :P the loader is not modified
11:30 < HiddeBoomsma> The new Rockbox version I got from STeeF does work with the old loader
11:30 < STeeF> HiddeBoomsma, you mean the rockbox-ceata.zip
11:30 < HiddeBoomsma> yes that one
11:31 < HiddeBoomsma> maybe now the loader will work
11:31 < TheSeven> so the rockbox-ceata.zip build does *not* cause an ATA error -11 this time?
11:31 < HiddeBoomsma> no
11:32 < HiddeBoomsma> but i did not manage to get the ceata onto the device with the new firmware yet
11:32 < HiddeBoomsma> I'll test that now
11:33 < HiddeBoomsma> UMIboot v0.0.01 r419:421M
11:33 < HiddeBoomsma> with ceata
11:33 < TheSeven> UMSboot isn't involved in this at all
11:33 < HiddeBoomsma> ah weird :)
11:33 < TheSeven> hm, there must be some web cache involved here
11:34 < TheSeven> can you try http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/installer-ipodclassic.0c0e130c0b.ubi
11:34 < TheSeven> that's the same file, just in a different location
11:34 < HiddeBoomsma> It works now
11:34 < TheSeven> and i seriously doubt that it will work
11:34 < HiddeBoomsma> the problen was I think I updated to the new loader and tried to update rockbox afterwards
11:35 < HiddeBoomsma> now i did it the other way around and it works
11:35 < HiddeBoomsma> let's see if it plays music :P
11:35 < TheSeven> you don't need to touch rockbox at all currently
11:35 < TheSeven> i'd like to get that lcd problem sorted out first
11:35 < HiddeBoomsma> k
11:36 < HiddeBoomsma> but the ATA-11 problem only appeared when starting rockbox.
11:36 < TheSeven> yes, and they are completely unrelated to what i'm doing currently
11:37 < HiddeBoomsma> Ah :)
11:37 < HiddeBoomsma> I'm now in the boot menu
11:37 < HiddeBoomsma> it has the blue background and is readable
11:37 < TheSeven> after installing 0c03130c0b?
11:38 < TheSeven> is the overall display quality ok? (e.g. similar to the old, known working one?)
11:38 < HiddeBoomsma> http://hidde.bolkhuis.nl/ipod.jpg
11:39 < TheSeven> looks a bit more greyish, but that could also be the camera?
11:40 < HiddeBoomsma> yes, it is not such a good webcam :)
11:40 < HiddeBoomsma> the colors are just fine
11:43 < HiddeBoomsma> The weird colors seem to appear when I just flashed the device...
11:44 < HiddeBoomsma> Ill try it again and see if I can produce a picture
11:45 < TheSeven> can you compare it to http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/installer-ipodclassic.150e13150b.ubi ?
11:45 < HiddeBoomsma> yes
11:45 < TheSeven> if you notice any difference, i'll need to raise the voltage a bit
11:45 < HiddeBoomsma> http://hidde.bolkhuis.nl/ipod2.jpg
11:46 < TheSeven> that's a glitch in the PNG decoder
11:46 < HiddeBoomsma> Ah
11:46 < TheSeven> seems like Vcore is also a bit too low for your ipod
11:46 < HiddeBoomsma> I can trigger it by flashing :)
11:47 < HiddeBoomsma> the new image didn't got it :) (but sometimes it doesnt anyway)
11:47 < HiddeBoomsma> I'll make a picture of this one aswell
11:48 < HiddeBoomsma> http://hidde.bolkhuis.nl/ipod3.jpg
11:49 < HiddeBoomsma> It looks the same to me
11:50 < TheSeven> that's really interesting
11:51 < HiddeBoomsma> :)
11:52 < HiddeBoomsma> I'll go have some coffee now, but I'll stay in the channel. So you can send images if you want to test some more
11:55 < TheSeven> http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/installer-ipodclassic.__0e13__0b.ubi
11:56 < TheSeven> that's basically a revert to the previous (non-working) state, i'd be very confused if it works now
11:56 < TheSeven> but the decoder glitches should hopefully go away now (Vcore raised to 1.000V)
12:23 < HiddeBoomsma> http://hidde.bolkhuis.nl/ipod4.jpg
12:23 < HiddeBoomsma> first boot froze on this screen
12:23 < HiddeBoomsma> second time it works
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13:01 < TheSeven> yeah, freezing on that screen occasionally is a known bug
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