--- Log opened Wed Mar 02 00:01:54 2011
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20:50 < s__C> Black Ipod Classic 05ac:1261
20:50 < s__C> not listed in libipoddfu.py
20:50 < s__C> so can't rockbox it
20:50 < s__C> ...
20:50 < s__C> any idea ?
20:50 < s__C> 80 GB version
20:54 < s__C> am i using an old version of libipoddfu.py ?
20:55 < s__C> HELP !
20:56 < Farthen> which os are you using?
20:57 < s__C> archlinux
20:57 < s__C> got the infos with lsusb for the ipod version
20:57 < s__C> i have pyusb alpha installed
20:57 < s__C> everything up-to-date
20:57 < s__C> using python3 i suppose
20:58 < s__C> because with python2 nothing works
20:58 < Farthen> can you try with python 2.7?
20:58 < Farthen> python 3 i still experimental and may not work
20:58 < [Saint]> it should iiuc
20:58 < s__C> with python 2 it fails with usb.core
20:58 < s__C> the problem isn't python 3
20:58 < Farthen> it is
20:58 < s__C> it's just that my ipod isn't list in libipoddfu.py
20:59 < Farthen> ipoddfu doesn't support python 3 at all IIRC
20:59 < s__C> so no way to get it working
20:59 < Farthen> there is. you need to install pyusb for python 2.7
20:59 < s__C> i bet pyusb is compiled with ipod3
21:00 < s__C> let me try
21:00 < s__C> modifying the pkg
21:01 < s__C> to get it working with python2
21:01 < s__C> but one again looking at the libipoddfu.py it won't work...
21:02 < s__C> same error
21:03 < s__C> as you can see here : http://pastie.org/1626110
21:04 < s__C> i need the rest for my libipoddfu.py
21:04 < s__C> for idProduct=0x1261
21:04 < s__C> which isn't in this file.....
21:04 < s__C> obviously
21:04 < Farthen> can you please run the python 2 interpreter?
21:05 < s__C> yes
21:05 < Farthen> import usb.core
21:05 < Farthen> usb.core.find(find_all=True)
21:05 < Farthen> and post the results
21:06 < s__C> hop Farthen http://pastie.org/1626120
21:06 < s__C> my ipod is actually connected
21:06 < Farthen> are you sure this is an ipod classic?
21:06 < s__C> yes
21:07 < s__C> why ?
21:07 < s__C> it's detected everywhere as an ipod classic
21:07 < s__C> so it's an ipod classic
21:07 < s__C> 1st gen
21:07 < s__C> 80GB
21:08 < s__C> bought in NY
21:08 < Farthen> and are you sure that you are in dfu mode?
21:08 < s__C> well
21:08 < s__C> just a little question with that
21:08 < Farthen> what does your screen show?
21:08 < s__C> i click on select+menu
21:08 < s__C> then i get the apple
21:08 < s__C> so i am in dfu mode ?
21:09 < s__C> because right after i get the Connected siplay...
21:09 < [Saint]> if the screen isn't full black, then it's not in DFU mode
21:09 < s__C> full black ?
21:09 < s__C> with the grey apple on it ?
21:09 < Farthen> you need to reset for *ten* seconds, not five
21:10 < Farthen> nope, full black without apple
21:10 < [Saint]> you reset it, keep holding the reset combo, you'll see the Apple logo, keep holding the reset combo, the Apple logo will go after some time, a full black screen appears...this is DFU mode
21:10 < Farthen> full as in completely as in each and every pixel
21:10 < s__C> ok
21:10 < s__C> catch it
21:10 < s__C> right after it restarts, right ?
21:11 < [Saint]> no
21:11 < s__C> mhh
21:11 < [Saint]> you'll know.
21:11 < [Saint]> you need to hold the reset combo for about 45 seconds
21:11 < s__C> click
21:11 < s__C> grey apple
21:12 < s__C> always holding the keys
21:12 < s__C> connected display
21:12 < s__C> dunno
21:12 < s__C> right after it restarts
21:12 < s__C> weird
21:13 < s__C> am i doing sth wrong ?
21:13 < [Saint]> are you letting go after it restarts?
21:14 < [Saint]> if it's done as I described earlier...you'll hit DFU mode.
21:14 < TheSeven> seems there's some backlog...
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21:15 < s__C> it doesn't remain black
21:15 < s__C> seems that's the problem...
21:15 < Farthen> the apple logo will appear
21:15 < Farthen> but it will go away after 5 seconds
21:16 < s__C> ok
21:16 < s__C> ok
21:16 < TheSeven> come on, get a stopwatch, and hold menu+select for exactly 12 seconds
21:16 < s__C> catch it finally
21:16 < TheSeven> with usb connected of course
21:16 < s__C> yes
21:17 < s__C> now hav to copy the .ubi file
21:17 < s__C> in no specific folder ?
21:17 < s__C> just the ipod folder, right ?
21:17 < TheSeven> into the root directory
21:17 < s__C> of the ipod ?
21:18 < TheSeven> of the "UMSboot" file system on your ipod, yes
21:19 < s__C> can't acces to the ipod folder in root ?
21:19 < s__C> Oo
21:19 < s__C> what's this
21:19 < s__C> /media/
21:20 < s__C> is it mounted somewhere else ?
21:21 < TheSeven> that entirely depends on your operating system
21:21 < s__C> archlinux
21:21 < s__C> usb drives are in /media/ normally
21:21  * TheSeven tried that once, but decided to never look at it again when it didn't install properly on his hardware
21:21 < s__C> ok
21:21 < TheSeven> if it's mounted by udev or something, it will probably be /media/UMSboot
21:22 < TheSeven> but it might not have been mounted at all
21:22 < TheSeven> just run "mount" and check the output
21:23 < s__C> http://pastie.org/1626180
21:24 < s__C> seems right, no ?
21:24 < TheSeven> seriously, what the fuck?
21:24 < s__C> ?
21:24 < s__C> dunno
21:24 < s__C> anything wrong ?
21:24 < TheSeven> well, do you have 9 ipods connected?
21:24 < s__C> too many sdX
21:24 < s__C> no
21:25 < s__C> will try it agait
21:25 < TheSeven> (excluding the UMSboot one)
21:25 < TheSeven> this points to some severe problem with your udev or kernel setup
21:25 < s__C> just thing i rebooted nine times
21:25 < s__C> the fu- ipod
21:25 < TheSeven> apparently your kernel misses the USB disconnect events somehow
21:25 < s__C> ok
21:25 < s__C> let's start again
21:26  * TheSeven suggests to use some sane operating system
21:28 < s__C> ok
21:28 < s__C> now i have to unmount it properly
21:47 < s__C> i have to put the file .ubi as root in the UMSboot folder or not ?
21:53 < [Saint]> not "as root", (well, actually...you might need to have root) but rather "in the root of the UMSboot RAMdisk"
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21:54 < s__C> because as a simple user i cant put a file there
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22:00 < s__C> [Saint]: when i unmount, have i to disconnect the usb too ?
22:00 < s__C> the file is in the UMSboot folder
22:01 < s__C> because it won't unmount properly
22:01 < [Saint]> yes.
22:01 < [Saint]> well, ideally you should unmount it before disconnecting.
22:01 < s__C> mean i stay on the little text area on my ipod
22:01 < [Saint]> but if your OS won't allow it...
22:01 < s__C> i have unmount it
22:03 < s__C> now i have to wait on the ipod ?
22:03 < s__C> ok
22:03 < s__C> that works
22:03 < s__C> finally
22:03 < s__C> thx for the support and the patience....
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