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11:11  * [Saint] seems to have forgottem the way to update emCORE via UMSboot
11:11 < [Saint]> *forgotten too
11:12 < STeeF> Select UMSboot? in the boot menu and upload the latest installer build?
11:15 < [Saint]> Do I need to rename the binary to <filename>.ubi?
11:17 < STeeF> Nope (not sure)
11:17 < STeeF> http://builds.freemyipod.org/iloader-installer/target/ipodclassic/iloader-installer-ipodclassic-r650.ubi
11:18 < STeeF> is the latest installer build on emcore ubi image
11:18 < [Saint]> there's your problem, assuming it's the Classic I'm talking about.
11:18 < [Saint]> I'm also talkiing about emCORE and not iLoader
11:19 < STeeF> ok
11:19 < STeeF> sorry, as an classic owner I'm more or less classic locked in ;)
11:21 < [Saint]> Fair enough ;) It runs on more than just the Classics.
11:21 < STeeF> for the classic there is a svn-build ubi for the nano (2g) there is non. 
11:21 < STeeF> and I don't know if it's safe to just use the .bin as .ubi
11:47 < user890104> .ubi is actually a raw firmware image, just like the .bin
11:50 < STeeF> If I remember / understand it correctly UMSBoot just represents an usb-disk device to the connected OS. takes a file and when disconnected starts executing that file
11:51 < user890104> exactly
12:21 < [Saint]> user890104: so, I rename the bin to .ubi? or pass it a .bin?
12:21 < [Saint]> neither seems to work.
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13:01 < TheSeven> [Saint]: umsboot will only accept .ubi
13:01 < TheSeven> you can rename most bin files to boot them, but that will not flash them
13:01 < TheSeven> i.e. the next reboot will revert to the old version
13:02 < TheSeven> that's of course nice for testing, but if you want to flash a new version, you need to run an installer build, which is usually already distributed as a .ubi file
13:03 < TheSeven> we don't have autobuilds on the nano2g installer because it needs to be signed on an ipod
13:03 < TheSeven> however, you can build and sign it yourself
13:04 < TheSeven> just the regular build process: grab a rockbox.ipod that should be embedded and ucl it into flashfiles/rockbox.ipod.ucl, and run "make flashfiles all" in /apps/installer-ipodnano2g
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14:20 < sinless> hello,the 7?
14:20 < sinless> that data abort comes frequently again today,and I write down the code
14:26 < TheSeven> sinless: please spell my nick correctly (theseven or [7]), so that I get notified that someone wants to talk to me :)
14:26 < sinless> ...
14:26 < TheSeven> is it always the same value, or are they changing?
14:26 < sinless> no
14:27 < TheSeven> can you send me the exact message and rockbox version?
14:27  * TheSeven has to leave for half an hour though
14:27 < sinless> always happen,if press centre button to choose other song when playing music,this will happen
14:28 < sinless> and if happened,reboot,and once choose that music database,the same data abort will happened,the only way is to restore whole settings
14:28 < sinless> wait,i will type the error code line by line
14:29 < sinless> Data abort
14:29 < sinless> at 0000053c
14:29 < sinless> fsr 0xf7
14:29 < sinless> (domain15,fault 7)
14:30 < sinless> address 0xb6a6981c
14:31 < sinless> both happen on r2009m-110108 and r29575-110312,the new version more frequently
14:32 < sinless> theseven? type complete...
14:56 < sinless> theseven,30 minutes...
15:03 < TheSeven> the first revision number looks very strange, you probably missed out a number
15:03 < TheSeven> and from which revision number is that data abort message?
15:13 < sinless> all
15:13 < sinless> the two version all happens and the new version is more often [7]
15:14 < TheSeven> and from *which* version is that exact message?
15:14 < sinless> the old version is that contained in the ubi
15:14 < sinless> the new one
15:14 < sinless> the old one sometimes show the same error
15:18 < TheSeven> the *very* same error?
15:18 < TheSeven> all numbers identical?
15:19 < sinless> yes
15:19 < sinless> all the same
15:21 < sinless> on my classic,if choose a song directly by press centre buttom when it is in now playing,it is very likely to be very slow,even stop working,and net time reboot,choose data base will show this error
15:21 < TheSeven> oh, you mean choosing the very same track that's playing?
15:22 < TheSeven> and the data abort doesn't happen at that point but only after a reboot when trying to enter the database menu?
15:22 < sinless> no,not very some
15:22 < TheSeven> that explains why i can't reproduce it...
15:22 < sinless> not very same
15:22 < sinless> but this happens very very often
15:23 < TheSeven> what's the exact steps needed to reproduce it?
15:24 < sinless> on my device,just that...give me one day more I will send video to you
15:24 < TheSeven> just *what*?
15:26 < sinless> not every time do this ,but very often,when playing a song,in "now playing",press centre buttom,and the player is in data base,press left key to browse other album or singer,press center to accept,nearly 70%,the player will stop or show that abort
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15:27 < sinless> and..do you see my test result last day?I test HDD on 9 classics,of course,1g 160g now works fine
15:35 < TheSeven> aha
15:35 < TheSeven> this is the first time you mention that the database is involved
15:36 < sinless> please let my retell the spinup time problem,huh?
15:36 < sinless> 7 of 9 classics using HDD,spinup time average at 1700ms
15:36 < sinless> 2 CF devices and my SSD all over 2700ms,very strange..
15:38 < sinless> 1G 160 ONLY 1600ms...your ce-ata driver perfectly success..
15:39 < TheSeven> yeah, but I don't get why SSD/CF is slower than HDD
15:40 < sinless> and,could you help me add a section on iloader?
15:40 < sinless> I want to install two RB building...
15:41 < sinless> the newer works better,but has a very nasty spinup time..
15:42 < sinless> for example,show two sections on iloader menu,one boot/.rockbox1/rockbox.ipod,one boot/.rockbox2/rockbox.ipod ,I looked up the iloader.cfg but found nothins
15:44 < TheSeven> sinless: I still can't reproduce it
15:45 < TheSeven> maybe one of the tracks in your database has some metadata that triggers some bug?
15:45 < TheSeven> can you try to reproduce with only one or two tracks in the db?
15:45 < sinless> maybe it dues to CJK fronts i think
15:46 < sinless> all happens if CJK fronts is installed
15:47 < sinless> but if no CJK fronts is in use,all CJK words only be displayed as a square
15:47 < TheSeven> can you try if it happens in that case as well?
15:48 < sinless> ok,today i will using english only front and playing english songs to test
15:48 < sinless> wait,please help me make a dual-rockbox boot....thanks...
15:48 < sinless> for example,show two sections on iloader menu,one boot/.rockbox1/rockbox.ipod,one boot/.rockbox2/rockbox.ipod ,I looked up the iloader.cfg but found nothins
15:49 < sinless> can this be made easily?
15:49 < TheSeven> edit iloader.conf and recompile it
15:50 < sinless> no iloader.conf ,only iloader.cfg...need programming?
15:51 < TheSeven> kind of, yeah
15:53 < sinless> oh no...that means I will continue rename rockbox to swap....tomorrow I will tell you all-english result..
15:58 < TheSeven> do you know about rolo?
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16:51 < sinless> hey,the seven,emergency
16:52 < sinless> I just update to the new RB,data abort comes as excepted..
16:52 < sinless> now,boot and choose data base,data abort
16:53 < sinless> maybe I can send you my .rockbox and your machine will also show this
16:54 < sinless> OK,problem was figure out
16:55 < sinless> front was not the problem,only by change the system language to english can solve
16:56 < sinless> if not restore,swap back to chinese will data abort,japanese and korean are the same
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