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15:10 < sinless_> hello..the seven
15:10 < sinless_> did you notice my words yesterday?
15:11 < sinless_> the problem is surely caused by CJK language
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16:51 < Muxa1L> Hello. I have a problem with rockboxed ipod classic 6G. Every time i boot Rockbox it shows "Scanning disk..." and after few seconds crashes with "*PANIC* Stkov main". So i cant boot it to uninstall or update. I tried "Recovering after .rockbox was deleted... " from Wiki, but it shows the same... Tried "Repairing/Possible fixes." But it shows errors in embios.py when i try to run some command. Please help...
16:53 < Muxa1L> *fixed*Tried "Repairing/Possible fixes." But it shows errors in embios.py when i try to run any command. 
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17:12 < user890104> Muxa1L: what kind of error? can you paste the message to pastebin.com?
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17:21 < Muxa1L> http://pastebin.com/b4M48jiq
17:33 < user890104> first error means that your ipod is not found
17:33 < user890104> do you see it in lsusb?
17:34 < Muxa1L> after first error i plugged in ipod - and then second error happened.
17:44 < user890104> where did you download embios.py from?
18:02 < Muxa1L> svn co http://svn.freemyipod.org/embios/trunk/tools
18:07 < user890104> i don't have a gentoo machine right now, it could be because of different python version
18:07 < user890104> can you check which one you have installed?
18:08 < Muxa1L> Nout_Gentoo tools # python -V
18:08 < Muxa1L> Python 2.6.6
18:13 < user890104> maybe Farthen could help you more with the python scripts, if he is around
18:14 < Muxa1L> hmm.. Emerge says its python-3.1.3-r1... Ill try to update it.
18:19 < Farthen> python 3 does not work with embios.py
18:23 < Muxa1L> what version needed?
18:30 < Muxa1L> btw http://pastebin.com/bwwVK62h
18:47 < Muxa1L> what version of python/linux distro I need?
18:52 < Farthen> any python 2 version above 2.6
18:52 < Farthen> i would suggest 2.7
18:52 < Farthen> and your linux distribution shouldn't matter
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19:34 < Muxa1L> Python version 2.7.1. Same errors http://pastebin.com/NHFBQLvG
19:38 < Muxa1L> This error could happen because of x86_64 version?
19:38 < Muxa1L> Linux Nout_Gentoo 2.6.37-gentoo-r1 #2 SMP PREEMPT Mon Mar 7 21:22:01 MSK 2011 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5550 @ 1.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
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20:48 < Muxa1L> so what may i try?...
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20:53 < DoomedTX> Hi, I asked on the wiki and thought I'd ask here too: On my iPod Classic 160GB there is no iLoader directory or iLoader.cfg file. That means the uninstall instructions don't work for me because I don't have access to the iLoader.cfg file to delete it. Where should I look and what other info is needed to answer the question?
20:54 < DoomedTX> By which I mean I went to follow the uninstall instructions on the wiki and there was no iLoader directory or iLoader.cfg file to delete. I've even wiped the drive while connected to my Mac in DFU mode and the iLoader firmware remains.
21:04 < TheSeven> Muxa1L: that error means that you try to access a device running emCORE using emBIOS.py
21:05 < TheSeven> DoomedTX: so you get the full graphical iloader menu?
21:06 < DoomedTX> Yes I do.
21:06 < DoomedTX> It doesn't look any different after formatting the drive on my Mac than before.
21:07 < DoomedTX> I'm able to easily boot UMS Mode and restore Rockbox with the ipodclassic installer, but I can't get back to Apple firmware.
21:07 < TheSeven> so you have the boot options on the left side and the freemyipod logo and "iLoader" text on the right side?
21:08 < DoomedTX> The top reads "Boot Menu" and I have "power Off," "Rockbox," "emCORE console" and "UMSboot" as choices.
21:08 < TheSeven> aha, so you aren't even running iloader at all
21:09 < TheSeven> but rather some alpha testing/preview build of emCORE that wasn't even officially released by us
21:09 < DoomedTX> It looks different from the screenshots on the iLoader site but is what was recommended for the Classic 160 in the talk section of http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Talk:IPod_Classic_iLoader_Installation
21:09 < DoomedTX> I guess so. The talk section didn't seem to clearly spell that out.
21:10 < TheSeven> there is currently no automated uninstaller for that
21:10 < TheSeven> it can in theory be uninstalled, but that's sort of a hack
21:12 < DoomedTX> Yeah I saw an unrelated note listing a theoretical command as a possibility...was planning to hook it up to my Linux computer to see if it works in reality.
21:12 < DoomedTX> sudo python embios.py rmtree /iLoader/iloader.cfg
21:13 < DoomedTX> I wonder if that even applies to this highly experimental release
21:13 < TheSeven> if it uses emcore commands, yes
21:13 < TheSeven> i described the procedure some days ago in one of the channels, you might want to check the logs
21:14 < DoomedTX> Ok I'll give that a shot, or I might just stick with Rockbox for a while and follow the development. I hardly use it for video anymore and the audio playback seems fine so far.
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21:17 < DoomedTX> Thanks for the help...I've been wanting Rockbox on this iPod for years...now it looks like I got exactly what I asked for :)
21:18 < Muxa1L> TheSeven: ah.. ok. How i can i rollback it to embios? Or is there any emCORE.py?
21:18 < TheSeven> just replace embios with emcore in the path
21:28 < Muxa1L> it works. Thank you! But. To uninstall iLoader/rockbox i need to delete only /iLoader/iloader.cfg, or  /iLoader/theme.ucl and NORFlash.bak too?
21:29 < TheSeven> Muxa1L: i thought you would be running emcore and not iloader?
21:36 < Muxa1L> hmm.. So how can i remove emcore loader?..
21:37 < TheSeven> see my messages a few lines above
21:49 < Muxa1L> understood. Is it possible to rollback from emcore to embios and iloader?.
21:49 < TheSeven> that depends on the model
21:49 < TheSeven> it should work for everything except the thick 1G 160GB model
21:50 < Muxa1L> model of ipod? Classic 6g.
22:01 < Muxa1L> then ill try full reinstall...
22:07 < Muxa1L> It started! Thanks to everyone who helped me... 
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22:24 < DoomedTX> I just got to test it out. python emcore.py ls / lists the same directory tree shown when I connect the device to my Windows box in Rockbox mode, that is all music files but no iLoader directory so of course 'sudo python emcore.py rmtree /iLoader/iloader.cfg' fails
22:25 < DoomedTX> I'm on the right track because the tools are interacting with the device; I just need to find your earlier suggestions how to hack it to uninstall
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22:28 < TheSeven> basically allocate 4KB of RAM, read the sysconfig (4KB at 0x1000 in the boot flash) to it, write it back to bootflash location 0 and then write some garbage (doesn't matter what) to 4KB at 0x8000 on the boot flash. then just reboot it, and it should go into dfu automatically
22:31 < DoomedTX> Ok, thanks for the recap. I'm bumping your text against the available commands to ensure the right way to execute what you said. I'm obviusly not as familiar with the process as you. Looks like I need to use readbootflash and writebootflash commands
22:35 < TheSeven> sudo python emcore.py memalign 0x10 0x1000
22:35 < TheSeven> note the address that this command prints out
22:36 < DoomedTX> 0x8000C80
22:39 < DoomedTX> so next would be readbootflash 0x1000 0x8000C80 4000
22:39 < TheSeven> sudo python emcore.py readbootflash 0x1000 0x800c80 0x1000
22:39 < TheSeven> 4096 in that case, not 4000
22:39 < DoomedTX> right
22:41 < DoomedTX> Done.
22:42 < TheSeven> now writebootflash with the same parameters, except for the first one which is zero instead
22:42 < TheSeven> and then the same another time with 0x8000
22:42 < TheSeven> then sudo python emcore.py reset
22:42 < DoomedTX> ok
22:44 < DoomedTX> Alright, done. It's on a white screen. Should I be able to plug it in the Mac and try to recover it at this point?
22:44 < TheSeven> hopefully yes
22:44 < DoomedTX> trying now
22:45 < DoomedTX> Of course my Mac was turned off so it will be a minute...not that you are waiting on the edge of your seat or anything :)
22:48 < DoomedTX> Looking good so far! It's downloading the recovery software this time instead of reporting it's incompatible with this version of iTunes like before.
22:51 < DoomedTX> I forgot to uninstall WiFi sync first and it looks like that got in the way. I'm uninstalling it right now and will retry the restor.
22:58 < DoomedTX> First try failed with an unknown error (1429). I put it into DFU mode and tried again. If that fails I'll try disk mode next.
22:59 < DoomedTX> This try seems to be working. I just got the message that it is restoring to factory settings!
23:02 < DoomedTX> I'm up to a normal-looking sync process. Thanks again for spoon-feeding me the right commands. I'm going to document everything you told me in the wiki under my original question. I might go through the whole thing again to make sure it's repeatable.
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