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06:42 < alquistus> TheSeven can you describe me how each function work?
06:42 < alquistus> in lcd.c
06:44 < alquistus> or how do you know that for example  LCDWCMD is on 0x38600004
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09:42 < benedikt93> alquistus, LCDWCMD and its address are internals of some peripheral controller inside the SoC the iPod uses, not internals of the LCD. This has been found by reverse engineering of apple code.
09:43 < benedikt93> But this doesn't (AFAIU) give the possibility to find out what hardware interface is actually used
09:48 < alquistus> i think that the last way is use microscope and find a pinout manually :)
09:51 < benedikt93> as TheSeven already suggested, you might want to sniff the data lines when the iPod operates them :)
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13:33 < JuvancicA> hello!
13:33 < JuvancicA> need some help with my nano 2g
13:33 < JuvancicA> ILoader is stuck and I cannot upgrade or uninstall...
13:37 < JuvancicA> i am trying to restore with iTunes with no success
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18:56 < juvancica> hi
18:56 < Farthen> hi
18:56 < juvancica> could someone help me with nano 2g and Iloader?
18:56 < juvancica> pls
18:57 < Farthen> that's what this channel is for ;)
18:57 < juvancica> :)
18:58 < juvancica> so the problem is this
18:58 < juvancica> i went through the iloader install procedure
18:58 < juvancica> which worked fine i think
18:58 < juvancica> theme worked
18:58 < juvancica> but went buggy
18:58 < juvancica> so i tried to upgrade the iloader
18:58 < Farthen> you installed the latest version of iloader?
18:59 < juvancica> not sure
18:59 < juvancica> latest i guess
18:59 < juvancica> but still not sure
18:59 < juvancica> in the meantime i deleted the backup file
18:59 < juvancica> for restoring
18:59 < juvancica> i knowe
18:59 < juvancica> dumb
18:59 < Farthen> you don't need the backup file
18:59 < juvancica> ok
18:59 < juvancica> :)
19:00 < juvancica> so
19:00 < juvancica> no i have a iloader (not sure about version)
19:00 < Farthen> so what is your current state? what does your ipod do when you reset it?
19:00 < juvancica> directly to "iloader no config file"
19:00 < juvancica> and options
19:00 < juvancica> power off
19:00 < juvancica> diskmode
19:00 < juvancica> etc
19:00 < TheSeven> did you update the theme as well?
19:01 < juvancica> yes
19:01 < juvancica> but then it will open the theme
19:01 < juvancica> give me an option to select play for uploading
19:01 < juvancica> or mode for same menu
19:01 < juvancica> as above
19:01 < juvancica> just these two options
19:01 < juvancica> my Q is
19:01 < TheSeven> where did you get that installer from?
19:02 < juvancica> hmm
19:02 < TheSeven> (the one you used for updating)
19:02 < juvancica> the-seven.tk
19:02 < juvancica> but
19:02 < juvancica> update didnt work
19:02 < TheSeven> ah
19:02 < juvancica> first install did
19:02 < juvancica> then no more
19:02 < TheSeven> how did the update fail?
19:03 < juvancica> not sure
19:03 < juvancica> :(
19:03 < juvancica> now if i try
19:03 < TheSeven> what did you do and how did it react?
19:03 < juvancica> nothing happens
19:03 < juvancica> let me try again
19:03 < juvancica> ok
19:03 < juvancica> diskmode
19:04 < juvancica> kill itunes
19:04 < juvancica> which says about restore :P
19:04 < juvancica> only iLoader folder
19:05 < juvancica> inside is theme folder
19:05 < juvancica> iloader.cfg
19:05 < juvancica> installer.bin
19:05 < juvancica> and update.cfg
19:05 < juvancica> eject
19:06 < juvancica> disconnect
19:06 < juvancica> blue screen
19:06 < juvancica> and directly to the iLoader - no config file
19:06 < juvancica> :(
19:06 < TheSeven> blue screen?
19:07 < juvancica> yeah, a quick one, press hold button... 
19:07 < juvancica> or something
19:07 < juvancica> like that
19:07 < juvancica> to enter a ibugger
19:07 < TheSeven> ah, sounds like a really old one...
19:08 < TheSeven> and what did you do to reach that state?
19:08 < juvancica> not sure
19:08 < juvancica> tried many things
19:08 < juvancica> but mainly
19:08 < juvancica> upgrade
19:09 < juvancica> and rockbox upgrade
19:09 < juvancica> one of those two
19:09 < juvancica> :)
19:09 < TheSeven> rockbox doesn't have anything to do with that
19:09 < juvancica> good to know :)
19:09 < juvancica> so i f-ed up somewhere in the update
19:10 < TheSeven> did you try installing a v0.2.x theme *before* updating iloader?
19:11 < juvancica> i tried the two themes from the-seven.tk
19:11 < juvancica> not sure...
19:11 < TheSeven> well, that's probably the problem then
19:11 < juvancica> :)
19:11 < juvancica> reversible?
19:11 < Farthen> you need to update iloader, because the new themes are not compatible with the old iloader
19:11 < TheSeven> you seem to have a v0.1.x iloader, which can't handle v0.2.x themes
19:12 < juvancica> okay
19:12 < juvancica> so, just follow the procedure on your web page?
19:13 < TheSeven> yes, but you'll have to revert to the old state first
19:13 < juvancica> aha
19:13 < juvancica> :)
19:13 < TheSeven> i.e. downgrade the theme, otherwise you'll be stuck on that fallback screen
19:13 < juvancica> knew there will be a catch :)
19:13 < juvancica> how? :)
19:14 < TheSeven> just extract an old theme file, e.g. v0.1.2
19:16 < juvancica> aha!
19:16 < juvancica> on your site there are just 0.2.2
19:16 < juvancica> right?
19:16 < TheSeven> just replace the version number in the link, the old files are still there
19:17 < juvancica> tricky :)
19:17 < juvancica> give me a sec
19:18 < juvancica> :))
19:18 < juvancica> ok, we have a theme!
19:18 < juvancica> now, update?
19:20 < TheSeven> now just follow the updating instructions, this time in the right order :)
19:20 < juvancica> :))
19:22 < juvancica> just a Q
19:22 < juvancica> do i leave iloader.cfg untouched
19:22 < juvancica> i need 3 files right
19:22 < TheSeven> up to the last step, yes
19:23 < juvancica> iloader.cfg, update.cfg and installer.bin
19:23 < juvancica> and an old theme
19:23 < juvancica> :)
19:27 < juvancica> aha! :)
19:28 < juvancica> a fancy iloader appears
19:28 < juvancica> how do i check the version?
19:29 < TheSeven> you certainly have v0.1.x if you still have the blue loader screen
19:29 < juvancica> no more blue :)
19:29 < TheSeven> so now it's white?
19:30 < juvancica> white, saying embios...đ
19:30 < TheSeven> that's v0.2.x then
19:30 < juvancica> :)
19:31 < juvancica> user error again... or RTFM i guess :)
19:31 < TheSeven> hm? what's the problem?
19:32 < juvancica> no, i mean it WAS an user error problem :)
19:32 < juvancica> no problem with nano or code... but with user: me
19:32 < juvancica> :)
19:32 < juvancica> tried a lot of things BUT the old theme
19:32 < juvancica> didnt think that was an issue
19:32 < juvancica> but it works now
19:33 < TheSeven> i wonder what went wrong on the first try
19:34 < juvancica> not sure at all
19:34 < juvancica> so now it's safe to install rockbox I guess
19:34 < juvancica> ?
19:35 < TheSeven> that should always be safe :)
19:36 < juvancica> :)
19:37 < juvancica> so now, just for my curiosity... if i delete all folders on the ipod
19:37 < juvancica> the iloader will just throw me on the main options screen
19:37 < juvancica> and all i have to do is copy the files again
19:38 < juvancica> for the theme
19:38 < juvancica> but
19:38 < TheSeven> no, it will drop you into some fallback menu that tells you that there's a problem with the theme, and has some options for uninstalling/upgrading/disk mode/whatever
19:38 < juvancica> what is the options in rockbox that says to update the bootloader also
19:38 < TheSeven> you can get back to normal behavior by re-extracting the theme
19:39 < TheSeven> if you use iloader, there's no rockbox bootloader at all
19:40 < juvancica> just rockbox player... okay... i THINK i get it :)
19:41 < juvancica> so if i ran a bootloader update from rockbox app it will just do nothing, then?
19:48 < juvancica> :D
19:48 < juvancica> so far everything works!!!
19:48 < juvancica> Many thanks!!!
19:49 < juvancica> U really are masters!!!
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