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17:37 < Ipodpico> Quick question, how do you uninstall Iloader?
17:38 < TheSeven> see the instructions
17:38 < Ipodpico> I have
17:38 < Ipodpico> restored the ipod
17:39 < Ipodpico> got to the screen where it complains about missing theme
17:39 < Ipodpico> not getting an uninstall option
17:39 < TheSeven> oh, what color does that screen have?
17:39 < TheSeven> if it's grey, you need to use the v0.1.x instructions
17:39 < Ipodpico> black background with white text and logo
17:39 < TheSeven> (or update to v0.2.x first)
17:40 < TheSeven> huh?
17:40 < Ipodpico> and yeah it's greyish
17:40 < TheSeven> ah
17:40 < Ipodpico> where can i find the v0.1.x instructions?
17:40 < TheSeven> http://theseven.lima-city.de/ipod/iloader/uninstallation.php
17:41 < Ipodpico> thanks a lot :)
17:42 < Ipodpico> erm
17:42 < Ipodpico> the download links
17:42 < Ipodpico> to iloader.cfg
17:42 < Ipodpico> 404's
17:42 < Ipodpico> same with uninst.bin
17:43 < TheSeven> dammit
17:44  * TheSeven blames his hoster for emptying the download server
17:45 < Ipodpico> okay, did you have backups, or am I going to have to update first?
17:48 < TheSeven> hm, something's screwed at my hoster, i've re-uploaded it, but it still 404s
17:49 < TheSeven> the file should also be available on http://theseven.freemyipod.org/download/iloader/uninstall/uninst.bin
17:50 < Ipodpico> got them, thanks a lot
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21:42 < shved> hello everybody! i have a problem with my ipod.. can anybody help me please? I got ipod classic 6g 80gb, and I've installed rockbox on it using this manual http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/IPod_Classic_iLoader_Installation .. Everything was ok, I liked new features this firmware gave me, but as soon as I've loaded music on it and updated my database(~4500 files) ipod requested to reset. On the next boot it has loaded to the 
21:42 < shved> and it stucked
21:42 < shved> now i can't load in rockbox
21:43 < shved> so i can't recover ipod using iTunes
21:43 < shved> the only thing I can do is load *.ubi files
21:44 < shved> the question is can I format my ipod's hard drive from DFU mode somehow?
21:45 < shved> sorry for my english, I'm from Ukraine
21:50 < shved> is there anything I can do?
21:50 < shved> I have tried to enter disk mode using select+play, but nothing happens
21:59 < shved> anything?
22:01 < shved> please send me a simple email if you find out how, ooshvedoo@gmail.com
22:01 < shved> oops! now I have ATA error: -11
22:02 < TheSeven> did you try enabling the hold switch immediately after choosing rockbox from the boot menu?
22:02 < shved> and it asks to press ON to debug..
22:02 < shved> one sec
22:03 < shved> thanks for the answer.. but still error -11
22:04 < TheSeven> what did you do to trigger this?
22:05 < TheSeven> that error basically means that the hard disk isn't responding any more
22:05 < shved> iknow for now
22:05 < shved> I have loaded emCORE r645
22:06 < TheSeven> huh? what are you doing with emcore on a PATA ipod?
22:06 < shved> so I still can run UMSboot
22:06 < shved> I can't figure it out %)
22:07 < TheSeven> and i'm totally confused now
22:07 < shved> just tried to make things go worse
22:07 < shved> as always
22:07 < TheSeven> which bootloader and rockbox version are currently installed on that ipod?
22:07 < TheSeven> IIUC you now have a CE-ATA aware bootloader, but PATA-only rockbox
22:08 < shved> UMSboot v0.0.1 r645
22:09 < TheSeven> and which kernel / bootloader UI?
22:09 < TheSeven> emBIOS/iLoader or emCORE?
22:09 < shved> I have started with iLoader
22:09 < shved> then I got tose prroblem with a database
22:10 < TheSeven> ...which could probably have been solved by resetting rockbox's state by enabling the hold switch
22:11 < shved> after this i have tried to reinstal rockbox on the old one using installer-classic.ubi
22:11 < TheSeven> ...which wouldn't have had any effect
22:11 < shved> it had no effect
22:12 < TheSeven> ok, so that's consistent at least :)
22:12 < TheSeven> what did you do then? install the CE-ATA version?
22:12 < shved> =)
22:12 < shved> let me see
22:13 < shved> is this CE-ATA version file named with a special nickname?
22:13 < shved> I can't find one on my pc
22:14 < TheSeven> the (ce-ata aware) emcore installer would be called installer-ipodclassic.ubi
22:14 < shved> no.. just installer-classic.ubi
22:14 < TheSeven> it's linked somewhere on that discussion page in the wiki, for the users of the 160GB model
22:15 < TheSeven> oh, how did you get in contact with emCORE then?
22:15 < shved> hmm
22:15 < shved> http://builds.freemyipod.org/
22:15 < shved> somehow
22:15 < TheSeven> ah, so you just booted that through umsboot?
22:15 < TheSeven> if you reboot your ipod now, which bootloader menu do you get? iloader or emcore?
22:15 < shved> http://builds.freemyipod.org/emcore/target/ipodclassic/emcore-ipodclassic-r650.bin
22:16 < shved> emcore
22:16 < shved> v1.0.4
22:16 < shved> and those link was wrong
22:17 < shved> my emCORE is r645
22:17 < shved> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Talk:IPod_Classic_iLoader_Installation I have found now your reply here
22:18 < shved> Recovering after .rockbox was deleted or a non-working Rockbox version was installed
22:18 < TheSeven> this is completely unrelated
22:18 < shved> can I still do something like this
22:18 < TheSeven> i'm still confused as to what the state of your ipod currently is
22:18 < shved> aah
22:18 < shved> after reboot it starts those emCORE
22:18 < TheSeven> if you would have thrown that file into umsboot, that would not have had any permanent effect, and on the next boot you should get an iloader menu again, but not emcore
22:19 < shved> the blue screen, named Boot Menu
22:19 < TheSeven> so you must have picked up an emcore installer from somewhere, and the only one i know of is named "installer-ipodclassic.ubi" and linked on the wiki
22:19 < TheSeven> but you said that you didn't run that
22:20 < shved> I have also ran a fastboot iLoader
22:21 < TheSeven> you meant you extracted an iloader fastboot theme to the umsboot volume or what?
22:21 < shved> for NANO 2g
22:21 < shved> yes
22:22 < shved> you're right
22:22 < shved> it was a little bit not-my-resolution
22:22 < shved> but rockbox still was booting
22:23 < shved> i think it shouldn't change those database thing
22:24 < TheSeven> well, i still don't know why exactly it fails now, but i'd suspect that the rather old rockbox installation on your ipod is not compatible with that new emcore version for some reason
22:24 < shved> now when I put installer-classic.ubi a have a white screen
22:25 < shved> and it is written emBIOS v0.1.4 r419:422M
22:26 < shved> on the top of white screen
22:26 < shved> when I reboot, it gets to the boot menu
22:27 < TheSeven> hm, I can think of two possible routes to go now:
22:28 < TheSeven> 1. restore it completely to factory state and reinstall from that point
22:28 < TheSeven> 2. wipe away the rockbox installation, boot the recovery image, and reinstall rockbox
22:28 < TheSeven> both ways require access to the emcore debugging interface
22:29 < shved> can I try using iTunes with ATA error? 
22:29 < shved> or this thing covers my hdd
22:29 < shved> ?
22:29 < TheSeven> no, the only thing you can do right now is fix the problem using the emcore debugging interface
22:30 < TheSeven> either by manual uninstallation, or by wiping away the broken rockbox build
22:30 < shved> so how can I get onto ipod's hdd from boot menu?
22:30 < TheSeven> not at all
22:31 < shved> or maybe emCORE console can help me?
22:31 < TheSeven> you need to connect to it from your pc using the emcore debugger
22:31 < shved> will try
22:31 < shved> can you give me a link>
22:31 < shved> please?
22:32 < TheSeven> which operating system are you using?
22:32 < shved> win7 32 bit
22:32 < shved> ultimate
22:32 < shved> intel core i3 CPU
22:33 < shved> if it matters
22:33 < shved> i have to study python? =)
22:34 < TheSeven> libusb is the bigger part of the problem
22:35 < shved> i have ubuntu installed
22:35 < shved> this can help
22:35 < TheSeven> that's certainly easier
22:35 < shved> =)
22:35 < shved> have installed it to try recovering my ipod)
22:36 < shved> but no success)
22:37 < shved> the problem was i could only see ipod in DFU mode, pre-installed from Windows
22:37 < shved> I was able to copy *.ubi files
22:38 < shved> is this enough?
22:40 < TheSeven> no
22:40 < shved> what else?
22:40 < shved> wait a minute, I will now boot with ubuntu
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22:54 < shved_> hello again
22:54 < shved_> I've got one more problem
22:55 < shved_> cannot set my internet on ubuntu
23:05 < shved_> TheSeven, You helped me a lot, thank you very much, but can you please tell me this little secret on how to recover my ipod in ubuntu?
23:06 < TheSeven> install pyusb >=1.0.0a0, checkout http://svn.freemyipod.org/emcore/trunk/tools and run sudo python emcore.py rmtree /.rockbox
23:10 < shved_> thanks!!! I will try it now!
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