--- Log opened Tue Mar 29 00:00:30 2011
00:00 < Zulkaroth> Python tools? do you mean something that runs on the actual iPod or on the installer computer
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00:02 < Zulkaroth> i'm going to reboot now.  i'll check back in later
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00:15 < TheSeven> i mean pc-side tools for communicating with the ipod or generating various binaries we need
00:15 < Zulkaroth> I restarted, but it made no difference.  In the end I just reenabled the Apple driver and switched out of DFU mode.  Is there anything else I can do to help with this issue?
00:16 < TheSeven> hm, probably not right now
00:16 < TheSeven> we'll either need to find the reason for that error, or at least allow me to reproduce it somehow
00:16 < TheSeven> or just move to syringe's way of doing this, which doesn't need a custom driver at all
00:17 < Zulkaroth> idk but maybe you could virtualize a clean 7 machine and then add iTunes
00:17 < TheSeven> however that will then require itunes to be installed, which i don't really like either
00:24 < Zulkaroth> I'm going to try and virtualize a windows 7 64-bit with iTunes and see what happens
00:24 < Zulkaroth> how should I record my screen
00:24 < TheSeven> i don't think that's neccessary
00:25 < Zulkaroth> ok
00:25 < Zulkaroth> as a matter of interest, what are you going to do?
00:27 < TheSeven> first of all, i'm going to fall asleep, as it's 2:30AM over here. tomorrow i'm going to compile syringe to check how that works and hopfeully get a similar method of accessing DFU going for our own tools
00:27 < Zulkaroth> ok
00:27 < Zulkaroth> goodbye
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14:32 < sinless> hello,[7],I just saw EmCore updated,please tell me do you also update the hdd driver?
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19:16 < Musta> Hi, I still have a problem with the last build (r29644-20110325) the iPod is stuck after 30-40 minutes of continuous playback and the sound is stuck on the same note (like A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A...and forever goes) The only choice left is to reset the iPod. Did anyone experienced this too?  
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19:27 < thom_> afternoon folks!
19:28 < thom_> I'm getting an error "could not opn DFU device" when I try to run the provided bootstrapper for my ipod classic
19:28 < thom_> any suggestions?
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19:52 < Zulkaroth> I was wondering if there was any way to update or uninstall emCORE (and for the prior, if that update could be done without reformatting)
19:55 < TheSeven> with the new versions uninstalling == restoring using itunes
19:55 < TheSeven> and updating will work without reformatting, yes
19:55 < TheSeven> did the new installer work for you?
19:56 < TheSeven> Musta: known issue, still unknown cause :(
19:56 < Zulkaroth> yes, the new installer worked great!  thanks
19:57 < TheSeven> I wouldn't have thought that it's *that* easy to hijack apple's driver :P
19:57 < Zulkaroth> I know what you mean.  btw i'd like to know if a dual boot is at all possible (from what i've read it isn't but nobody thought you could install rockbox on a classic either)
19:58 < TheSeven> in theory it's very well possible
19:58 < TheSeven> however there's some nasty bug somewhere that's preventing it
19:59 < TheSeven> if i attempt to run the apple firmware from emcore, it locks up during a very early initialization step
19:59 < TheSeven> seems to be related to the i2c core somehow (which doesn't respond for some reason)
19:59 < Zulkaroth> what is the i2c core (i just need a quick explain)
20:00 < TheSeven> the part of the system-on-a-chip that drives the i2c (inter integrated circuit) bus, that connects to things like the audio and power manager chip
20:00 < Zulkaroth> ok thanks.
20:01 < TheSeven> so some kind of lowlevel hardware problem that isn't really easy to debug :/
20:01 < TheSeven> it wasn't even easy to figure out where it's locking up at all
20:02 < Zulkaroth> I'd really like to thank you for your excellent work porting RockBox to the iPod Classic.  These days I'm really busy producing an fundraiser album for my school but maybe I'll come back sometime to help make this even better!
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20:07 < Musta> That's too bad! :( I'll stick to the first build (r29009M-110108 is the only one usable for me) till a solution be found.
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20:37 < TheSeven> Musta: i don't think this kind of problem has changed much between builds
20:44 < Musta> I know. I encountered this issue since r29009M-110118 and above. It never happened to me with the first builds and I use it a lot, even keep it playing all night long! Unfortunately it's not working with the new iLoader...
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20:45 < s__C> hello
20:45 < TheSeven> Musta: you might want to try downloading http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/resetvoltages.emcoreapp and saving it as /.boot/init.emcoreapp on your ipod
20:45 < TheSeven> if that helps, I know what's going on
20:45 < s__C> i'm encountering a problem after the flashing of my ipod with rockbox
20:46 < s__C> exactly ATA error: -11
20:46 < s__C> and can't debug it...
20:46 < s__C> any idea ?
20:47 < TheSeven> is that a very old rockbox version?
20:47 < s__C> no
20:47 < s__C> on my ipod classic
20:47 < s__C> was using the old bios fine
20:47 < s__C> what's the way to go ?
20:48 < TheSeven> so you say that iloader worked fine, then you updated to emcore, and now it doesn't work any more?
20:48 < s__C> it's trying to fix the GPIO but unsuccessful
20:48 < s__C> yes
20:48 < s__C> can't boot into rockbox
20:48 < TheSeven> that sounds indeed like an incompatibility between the rockbox and emcore version
20:48 < TheSeven> does the fallback image fail as well?
20:48 < Musta> Happened to me too
20:49 < s__C> fallback ?
20:49 < s__C> where ?
20:49 < TheSeven> Tools => Run Rockbox fallback image
20:49 < s__C> ok
20:49 < s__C> no it doesn't
20:49 < TheSeven> same error?
20:49 < Musta> Yeah, that's what I did
20:49 < s__C> i'm on rockbox now
20:49 < TheSeven> ok
20:50 < s__C> r29644M
20:50 < TheSeven> now just extract a more recent rockbox version to the root directory
20:50 < s__C> ok fine thx for the support
20:50 < s__C> really nice work guys
20:50 < s__C> confirm later if it worked
20:51 < Musta> It worked for me.
20:51 < Musta> The Seven, where to save this resetvoltage file? on the root of my iPod?
21:01 < TheSeven> Musta: as /.boot/init.emcoreapp on your ipod
21:02 < TheSeven> you'll probably have to create the .boot directory first
21:03 < Musta> Should it be inside the .rockbox folder?
21:04 < s__C> ok TheSeven all worked fine....
21:05 < Musta> However it won't let me create a folder starting with "." saying: "you must type a file name".
21:06 < TheSeven> you need to create that in a command prompt, windows is silly sometimes
21:08 < Musta> Indeed. is the "make" command exits in this platform as well?
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21:14 < Musta> Ok, never-mind, done with WinRar
21:15 < Musta> Now should I rename the file from "resetvoltages.emcoreapp" to "init.emcoreapp"?
21:34 < user890104> yes
21:47 < Musta> Ok, I'll try and report later. Thanks for now (and for the awesome work overall). 
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22:22 < kiaha> is anyone here? I need help!
22:22 < kiaha> I just want to remove EMCORE and reinstall my original iPod firmware
22:23 < kiaha> how can I do this?
22:23 < kiaha> I have  160gb iPod classic
22:23 < kiaha> 3G
22:23 < TheSeven> boot into dfu mode (hold menu+select for 10-15 seconds) and then restore using itunes
22:23 < kiaha> It wont go into it...
22:24 < TheSeven> connect your ipod to usb, and hold the buttons for about 12 seconds
22:24 < kiaha> wait, I think it did it, will the screen go completely blank?
22:24 < TheSeven> completely dark, yes
22:24 < kiaha> GOD BLESS YOU IT WORKED!
22:26 < kiaha> Thank you so much I can't believe I didn't try this before. You are a saint! I feel much better. I think I'll wait for a more stable version of Rockbox to become availible next time I try
22:26 < kiaha> have a great day!
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