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05:44 < Joppy> Hello. I've installed emCORE, and when selecting Rockbox, I get the error message "ATA error -11 Press ON to debug"
05:48 < Joppy> Any help would be appreciated. I need to head out for a couple of hours, but will check for replies every now and then. 
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06:23 < STeeF> Joppy, what ipod are you running emCORE on? (Type, generation and disk-size)
06:36 < Retard> wooooohooooooo Just a thanks to STeef ,TheSeven,user89104 and Saint for the help on tuesday the ipod is up and running - Just an update I could not install RockBox it could not read some partision I then restored using itune then installed iLoader and Rockbox and now all is working as it should.
06:51 < Joppy> Hi. My iPod is an 80GB Classic 6G.
06:56 < STeeF> Retard, good job!
06:56 < STeeF> Joppy, what version of emcore are you running? and what is you rockbox version?
06:58 < Joppy> The emCORE version I used is the one linked to in the wiki. 
06:58 < STeeF> ok, If you turn on the ipod what does it say on the top left of the screen?
06:59 < Joppy> I'm not home yet, sorry. My iPod is sitting on my desk. 
07:00 < STeeF> ok, when you are home try the following
07:00 < Joppy> this is the version I installed: http://files.freemyipod.org/releases/20110406/installer-ipodclassic-r692-20110406.ubi
07:03 < Joppy> Prior to installing that, I had emBIOS and rockbox running well enough. I can't remember which versions though. 
07:06 < STeeF> Turn on the iPod. Select the Tools menu (most rigth option) and after that select the 'Run Rockbox fallback image'
07:06 < STeeF> and try to see if that will boot rockbox if so, update the rockbox version to the latests build 
07:07 < Joppy> Thanks :3
07:07 < Joppy> I'll try that when I get home. 
07:07 < STeeF> The latests build is at: http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipodclassic.zip
07:08 < STeeF> Ok, i'll be around here the rest of the day. Just type my nickname when you have a question
07:08 < Joppy> Okay, will do :3
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09:17 < Joppy> Hi STeeF. I did what you said and it worked great :D
09:19 < STeeF> Joppy, Coool! make sure you update the rockbox version and make sure it reboot's fine
09:20 < Joppy> Yep. I put on the latest rockbox, rebooted, and am listening to it now :3
09:20 < Joppy> Thanks for the help!
09:21 < STeeF> Your welcome!
09:44 < Elfish> are there any new battery benchmarks?
10:11 < TheSeven> i don't think so
10:15 < Elfish> do the benchmarks even depend on emcore?
10:15 < Elfish> or just on rockbox itself?
10:15 < [Saint]> Just Rockbox
10:15 < [Saint]> An emCORE bench would take a foolishly long time to complete ;)
10:16 < Elfish> hehe
10:17 < Elfish> how long does the battery last on an ipod classic 120gb
10:17 < Elfish> it's barely used.
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10:18 < [Saint]> depends on the use case of course.
10:18 < [Saint]> playback consistently from a full charge, ~10hours of so iiuc
10:19 < [Saint]> I have seen some pretty inconsistent reports though.
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11:55 < Elfish> i just played "chopper" in rockbox
11:55 < Elfish> i hit the quit button and it seems like that rockbox crashed
11:55 < Elfish> :o
11:55 < Elfish> it doesn't react on any button presses anymore
12:04 < STeeF> Elfish, you have a so called 'lock-up' or 'freeze'
12:04 < STeeF> Press-and-hold Menu+Select untill the emCORE screen appears
12:05 < Elfish> correct. i did that
12:05 < Elfish> i was just reporting it.
12:05 < Elfish> heh
12:05 < STeeF> ok
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13:03 < Wolfinger> Hey, is anyone here?
13:06 < STeeF> Wolfinger, just ask you question
13:07 < Wolfinger> Well, I try to install this new emCORE thing on my iPod Classic 80Gb, and when I choose the rockbox option from the menu, it says:
13:07 < Wolfinger> ATA error: -11
13:07 < Wolfinger> Press ON to debug
13:08 < STeeF> Did you had emBIOS before?
13:08 < Wolfinger> Yeah
13:08 < STeeF> Turn on the iPod. Select the Tools menu (most rigth option) and after that select the 'Run Rockbox fallback image'
13:08 < STeeF> and try to see if that will boot rockbox if so, update the rockbox version to the latests build 
13:08 < STeeF> The latests build is at: http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipodclassic.zip
13:09 < Wolfinger> how do you update?
13:11 < STeeF> unzip the zip file into the root folder of you ipod
13:11 < Wolfinger> Alright, thanks a lot.
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14:10 < sinless> hello,the seven?Please tell me the cause of that spinup time problem you told me one month ago...I will report it to SSD factory
14:11 < TheSeven> looks like the SSD takes ages to respond to ATA IDENTIFY commands
14:18 < sinless> OK.thanks
14:21 < sinless> Have you add that only first time fix...?
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15:47 < Groxxxy> Hello
15:48 < Groxxxy> Quick question: Finished installing emcore and rockbox successfully on my classic
15:48 < Groxxxy> what is the emcore console?
15:48 < Groxxxy> right most icon on boot menu after shut down and rockbox?
15:50 < TheSeven> something you probably can't make any use of
15:51 < Groxxxy> well alright
15:51 < Groxxxy> Thank you for this
15:52 < Groxxxy> install was a breeze
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17:07 < Groxxxy> Also, if I need to how do I revert back to apple firmware?
17:08 < Farthen> Groxxxy: you need to enter dfu and restore using itunes
17:08 < Groxxxy> That's what I thought thank you
17:08 < Groxxxy> I did some test with rockbox, an amplifier and the classics digital line out
17:09 < Groxxxy> the music volume is a touch weaker coming from the line out on the ipod than on the line out from my computer
17:09 < Groxxxy> same amplifier used
17:09 < Groxxxy> no change to volume
17:10 < Groxxxy> volume on the rockbox was on to the maximum 12decibels
17:10 < Groxxxy> am I doing something wrong; why is the volume not the same?
17:11 < Farthen> if i understand correctly the amplifiers are not applied to the line out as it is supposed to be connected to an external amplifier
17:11 < Farthen> do you get the right volume on the mic out?
17:11 < Groxxxy> I do
17:11 < Groxxxy> oh no
17:11 < Groxxxy> no no
17:13 < Farthen> so mic out volume is the same as line out volume and both are not loud enough?
17:13 < Groxxxy> hold on i'm comparing
17:14 < Groxxxy> that's funny
17:15 < Groxxxy> mic out is perfect and the same as the computer source
17:15 < Groxxxy> digital line out is a lot weaker
17:15 < Groxxxy> wow
17:15 < Farthen> a) it is not digital, it is only line out. b) the point of line out is that you connect it to an external amplifier
17:15 < Groxxxy> difference is remarkable
17:16 < Groxxxy> yes yes
17:16 < Groxxxy> I use a mini headphone amplifier with my classic that i carry around
17:16 < Groxxxy> the sound is considerably worse from the lineout than the mic out
17:16 < Farthen> as in quality?
17:16 < Groxxxy> what's up with that?
17:16 < Groxxxy> volume
17:17 < Groxxxy> volume is 1/3 lower
17:17 < Farthen> shall i repeat it again? the line out doesn't get amplified at all because the amp on the ipod is a lot worse than most external amps
17:17 < Groxxxy> let me process this :P
17:18 < Groxxxy> are you telling me emcore and rockbox bypass the internal ipod DAC?
17:18 < Groxxxy> amplifier sorry
17:18 < Farthen> they are bypassing the amplifier for the line out
17:18 < Groxxxy> 0_0
17:18 < Farthen> that is the point of the line out and the only difference between the line out and the mic out
17:19 < Groxxxy> You understand this was never possible before with the stock firmware
17:19 < Groxxxy> This is what i've wanted
17:19 < Groxxxy> this bypassing so i can use my own hardware
17:19 < Farthen> the original firmware amplifies the line out?
17:19 < Groxxxy> yeaaaaah
17:19 < Groxxxy> known fact around the audiophile world
17:20 < Groxxxy> this is fantastic
17:20 < Farthen> great ;)
17:20 < Groxxxy> There are companies like Wadia that produce special licensed cables to bypass the line out amp
17:20 < Groxxxy> cost 100s
17:20 < Groxxxy> sweet
17:21 < Groxxxy> You've done us all quite a service without realising it
17:21 < Groxxxy> It seems
17:21 < Groxxxy> The amp on the ipod is a lot more inferior to after market external ones
17:21 < Groxxxy> good on you mate
17:22 < Groxxxy> i'm chuffed
17:22 < Farthen> i think it is a feature of rockbox
17:22 < Groxxxy> yeah and you all made that possible for the classics :D
17:23 < Groxxxy> Thank you again. I only started with this an hour ago and have a flac capable Ipod
17:23 < Farthen> you're welcome
17:23 < Groxxxy> ^_^
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17:24 < TheSeven> [19:20] <Groxxxy> There are companies like Wadia that produce special licensed cables to bypass the line out amp [19:20] <Groxxxy> cost 100s [19:20] <Groxxxy> sweet << scam
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22:54 < red_> Could someone please help me restore my iPod to factory settings, it shows up in My Computer but not iTunes.
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