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08:00 < kobra> Hi
08:01 < kobra> I have ipod nano 2g 8G and I installed some time ago iloader from http://the-seven.tk/ipod/iloader/installation.php embios 0.1.4
08:01 < kobra> Now each time I will go to disk mode, ipod is entering in disk mode and rebooting after few seconds. 
08:01 < kobra> I can start RockBOx and Apple software, but if connect Ipod to Itunes it will restart as well
08:02 < kobra> If i will go to "Fallback menu" it says "ILoader -no config file!" 
08:02 < kobra> Any idea how to start disk mode and restore ipod with iTunses ?
08:34 < user890104> kobra: do you have an UMSboot option in the fallback menu?
08:35 < kobra> yes I have
08:35 < user890104> does it work if you connect your ipod to the pc and  select it
08:36 < kobra> I have to try
08:37 < user890104> are you on windows or on a mac?
08:38 < kobra> linux
08:38 < kobra> but I will connect to windows
08:38 < kobra> my ipod
08:38 < user890104> it should work on both windows and linux
08:39 < user890104> windows is recommended, since there is a known bug under linux
08:44 < kobra> I have to reboot to windows , will be back in 2 minutes
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08:55 < kobra> user890104:when I select umsboot, on ipod screen I have " pleas copy UBI file ......"
08:55 < kobra> and windows says that found new hardware
09:02 < kobra> user890104: and found new hardware wizard appear
09:07 < user890104> kobra: install this device, then put the folowing file in the new drive:
09:07 < user890104> http://files.freemyipod.org/releases/20110406/installer-ipodnano2g-r692-20110406.ubi
09:08 < user890104> then select Safely remove hardware, eject the UMSboot drive and see if the instalation starts on your ipod's screen
09:08 < kobra> hmm, I can't install device
09:08 < user890104> what does it say? any errors?
09:08 < kobra> windows can't find driver for it
09:09 < user890104> well it's supposed to be a mass storage device, like every hard disk/flash memory
09:09 < user890104> what's the first line of text on your ipod's display?
09:10 < kobra> Umsboot v0.0.1 r250
09:12 < kobra> I can copy ubi file to ipod when I start rockbox, then windows see ipod as a harddrive
09:15 < user890104> can you repeat this again: unplug your ipod from the computer, then restart it with MENU+SELECT
09:16 < user890104> select UMSboot from the more options menu
09:16 < user890104> and when you see the white screen with black letters, plug it in the computer
09:16 < user890104> it should be detected as disk drive, and install without showing new hardware wizard
09:22 < kobra> I did again , but windows says that found device UMSboot device, but cant install driver , let me check with another windows machine
09:23 < kobra> ok with another windows ipod is as a umsboot device
09:24 < kobra> shell I copy this file to root directory ?
09:26 < user890104> yes, then follow the instructions i gave you above
09:34 < kobra> ok, now I have new boot menu
09:34 < kobra> but still after going in disk mode ipod is rebooting 
09:54 < kobra> Now when I try start apple firmware I have " loading appleos.bin failed"
09:54 < user890104> can you select the console icon from the menu and then plug the ipod in your linux pc
09:55 < user890104> about the apple firmware - you need to move appleos.bin from .iLoader folder to the newly created .boot folder on your ipod
09:55 < user890104> iLoader, not .iLoader
10:01 < kobra> I have to reeboot to linux
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10:07 < kobra> user890104: but there is no .boot folder
10:08 < user890104> kobra: have you enabled showing hidden files?
10:08 < kobra> yes
10:09 < kobra> I can see .backup , .rockbox ....
10:09 < kobra> but not .boot
10:10 < kobra> but it's strange right now because I was able enter to diskmode
10:10 < kobra> but when I connect to Itunes 10 it will reboot
10:12 < user890104> kobra: create the boot folder then
10:12 < user890104> and move appleos.bin from iLoader to .boot
10:13 < user890104> and i mean ".boot", not "boot"
10:14 < user890104> about the reboot - i recommend backing up all files from the ipod
10:14 < user890104> then you format the partition
10:14 < kobra> ok I can boot appleos now
10:14 < user890104> and check if disk mode works
10:15 < user890104> there's an option to format the partition in Tools from the boot menu
10:15 < kobra> then I can try
10:15 < kobra> I don't need any daty from ipod
10:18 < kobra> you mean "reformat data partition "
10:19 < user890104> yes, exactly
10:20 < kobra> but now I can't but appleos
10:21 < kobra> :) and did not copy appleos.bin
10:22 < kobra> and I can go to disk mode , rebooting 
10:24 < kobra> ok I have disk mode now, i wil try restore with itunes
10:29 < user890104> that's why i told you to backup :)
10:30 < kobra> yes , but I was thinking only about mp3 ;)
10:40 < kobra> ok, after format and restore all files ;) Itunes can see ipod 
10:40 < kobra> now is ok
10:40 < kobra> thanks for help
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12:52 < TheSeven> [11:55] <user890104> about the apple firmware - you need to move appleos.bin from .iLoader folder to the newly created .boot folder on your ipod << haha, on an ipod with ftl fuckup? i doubt that is still there :)
12:53 < user890104> i've PM'ed him a copy :)
12:54 < TheSeven> reading more of the scrollback it seems like it was actually a "itunes reboots ipod for no reason" issue and not an ftl problem
12:54 < user890104> i've suggested before booting OF from the FW partition just like rockbox does, so if the user formats his data partition, he would be able to boot OF
12:55 < user890104> yeah, probably some FS corruption or something weird that itunes doesn't like
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14:17 < [Saint]> "just like rockbox does" is a little bit of an oddity there user890104...
14:22 < [Saint]> The only reason I say that is because there's a few different ways rockbox can do t.
14:23 < [Saint]> *it
14:24 < TheSeven> i think he means the rockbox bootloader
14:24 < TheSeven> not rolo'ing the of :)
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14:39 < kobra> thanks for help
14:41 < user890104> TheSeven, [Saint]: yes, the rockbox bootloader
14:41 < [Saint]> TheSeven: So did I.
14:42 < [Saint]> It's perfectly capable of booting the OF from the disk (as in, not the FW partition)
14:43 < user890104> actually ROLO does not work for some reason on my nano 2g
14:44 < [Saint]> neither does advanced ipodpatcher usage like I'm talking about ;)
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14:46 < user890104> [Saint]: can you give some more details about that, i think i've missed something
14:46 < [Saint]> Sure can.
14:46 < user890104> rockbox bootloader replaces OF on the firmware partition, right?
14:48 < [Saint]> http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/IpodPatcher#Advanced_usage
14:48 < [Saint]> http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPatcher may be of use also, for a wider picture.
15:20 < [Saint]> user890104: did that broaden your horizons?
15:21 < user890104> it still seems a bit complicated to me
15:23 < [Saint]> If you have any questions about it directly, Torne wrote a great deal of it iiuc.
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15:44 < kobra> Hello
15:44 < kobra> I need some help again
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15:46 < kobra> I installed emCore with user890104 help
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15:46 < kobra> and till that moment was ok
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15:47 < kobra> but when I copied rockbox and some mp3 up to first time was ok
15:48 < kobra> after restart FTL was running and emCore console says : FTL recovery failed. use disk mode to recovery
15:48 < kobra> but I can't start disk mode ( I have white screen )
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15:48 < kobra> I have Ipod nano 2g
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15:49 < kobra> is it any way to restore ipod to factory setting 
15:54 < kobra> when I try to enter rockebox i have ATA error 1
15:55 < kobra> and running screen with a lot info ;)
15:56 < user890104> kobra: seems like TheSeven guessed that your ipod's FTL is broken
15:56 < user890104> he could give you instructions on how to wipe it
15:56 < kobra> what can I do to fix it ?
15:59 < kobra> So I hope he will help me if he will have some time
15:59 < user890104> the first way is to install some tools that will communicate with the ipod
15:59 < user890104> and send it the wipe command
16:00 < user890104> the second is to upload a wipe program with umsboot just like you updated to emcore earlier
16:00 < user890104> i've got some old versions of there stuff, but i don't know which one do you need
16:03 < kobra> I see
16:46 < kobra> TheSeven: If you can please help me bring my ipod to life again 
16:48 < TheSeven> does disk mode get stuck on a white screen, or what do you mean?
16:49 < TheSeven> [17:59] <user890104> the second is to upload a wipe program with umsboot just like you updated to emcore earlier << that's an emcore app, not a ubi image
16:50 < kobra> the screen is white = light on and nothing happen 
16:52 < kobra> yes , stuck on the white screen
16:52 < TheSeven> so you have a linux machine?
16:52 < TheSeven> make sure you have python 2.6/2.7 and pyusb >=1.0.0a0 installed
16:52 < TheSeven> oh, and subversion
16:52 < TheSeven> then do the following:
16:53 < TheSeven> svn co http://svn.freemyipod.org/emcore/trunk/tools
16:53 < TheSeven> cd tools
16:53 < TheSeven> boot you ipod into the emcore boot menu, touch the clickwheel to reset the idle timeout
16:53 < TheSeven> python emcore.py ipodnano2g_wipenand /tmp/wipelog.bin
16:54 < TheSeven> once that completes, *unplug your ipod*, and boot disk mode again
16:54 < TheSeven> wait until it reboots to the emcore boot menu again
16:54 < TheSeven> choose "reformat data partition"
16:55 < TheSeven> once that completes, plug it in again and check if everything is working again
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16:56 < kobra> ok I will try
16:57 < kobra> and come back here
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17:18 < kobra> TheSeven: I have small problem , can't find pyusb >=1.0.0
17:28 < kobra> ok I have it
17:29 < kobra> wiping in progress
17:31 < kobra> TheSeven : after this point :choose "reformat data partition"
17:32 < kobra> I have *Panic* Error formatting data partition: FFFFFFFC
17:38 < kobra> ok after second try, reformating was correct
17:46 < kobra> Ipod looks fine , Thanks again
17:48 < kobra> If I would like to remove rockbox and emcore and come back to  apple firmware . Is it possible ?
17:49 < TheSeven> what do you think the "uninstall emcore" option is for? :)
17:50 < kobra> ok I understand , no more question :)
17:50 < kobra> thanks for help
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