--- Log opened Sun Apr 17 00:26:51 2011
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00:54 < Petrakis> Hello
00:56 < Petrakis> where I can find EmCORE?
00:57 < TheSeven> well, aren't there links all over the place?
00:57 < TheSeven> what *exactly* are you looking for?
00:57 < Petrakis> Your device is fully supported by emCORE, but installation instructions have yet to be written. Please check this page again in a few days. 
00:58 < TheSeven> *which* device?
00:58 < TheSeven> ipod nano 2g?
00:58 < Petrakis> Yes
00:58 < TheSeven> hm, i though someone had already posted instructions for that one
00:58 < Petrakis> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodNano2G
00:58 < TheSeven> however there is no real use for non-developers in upgrading to it currently
00:58 < TheSeven> you can find the binaries here: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Releases
00:59 < TheSeven> the installation works similar to iloader, using ipodpatcher with the emcore ipodx file instead
00:59 < Petrakis> My embios is crashing sometimes
00:59 < TheSeven> crashing in terms of what?
00:59 < TheSeven> i seriously doubt that emcore will be more stable
01:00 < Petrakis> well
01:00 < Petrakis> lets test it
01:00 < TheSeven> what kind of trouble are you experiencing?
01:01 < Petrakis> sometimes listening to music
01:01 < Petrakis> gets panic
01:02 < Petrakis> and also with a sountracks of diablo II game
01:02 < Petrakis> i have deleted these mp3
01:02 < TheSeven> that sounds more like a rockbox problem, not an embios one
01:02 < TheSeven> so you want to update from embios to emcore?
01:02 < TheSeven> in that case, use the .ubi file and throw it into umsboot
01:03 < Petrakis> I want to clean a bit
01:03 < Petrakis> all the ipod stuff
01:03 < Petrakis> its so ¨dirty¨
01:05 < Petrakis> and i´m a bit bored :P
01:48 < Petrakis> now i have updated embios to emcore
01:51 < Petrakis> what is for the 300 at the corner? a shutdown timer?
01:55 < Petrakis> yes it is
01:56 < Petrakis> Well is not that stable but it works!
01:57 < Petrakis> keep working on this project, its awesome
02:01 < Petrakis> disk mode doesn´t work
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09:57 < Eulero> hi all
09:57 < Eulero> anyone can help me ?
09:58 < Eulero> i have a problem with ipod classic 80gb
09:58 < Eulero> and last release of emcore+rockbox
09:58 < Eulero> anyone can help ?^
09:59 < Eulero> when i connect my ipod to PC there are two problems:
09:59 < Eulero> 1) no device is found
10:00 < Eulero> 2) ipod/rockbox freeze 
10:02 < Eulero> i have read topic, i wait here for an answer, thanks!
10:31 < Eulero> ok i can add an information
10:31 < Eulero> i tried to reinstall all after a reset to the original firmware
10:31 < Eulero> at the beginning all ok
10:32 < Eulero> after i have played a song 
10:32 < Eulero> now it doesn't connect
10:34 < Eulero> i have tried to clear rockbox configuration
10:34 < Eulero> and Rockbox database
10:34 < Eulero> but nothing
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10:53 < Eulero> hi liar
10:53 < Eulero> can help me ?
10:55 < liar> probably not... what do you need?
11:05 < TheSeven> sounds like one of the very few devices where usb only works when initialized by DFU
11:06 < TheSeven> so it did only work during the first boot after installation?
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11:39 < Eulero> no
11:40 < Eulero> it work during the first boot
11:40 < Eulero> and work untill i do something like playing audio or start an application
11:42 < Eulero> the strange thing is not only doesn't connect but freeze and i'have to reset with "select and menu"
11:42 < Eulero> Rockbox is wonderful compare to the original OS ... pls help me
11:48 < TheSeven> so rockbox crashes when you try to connect to usb while music is playing? or what's going on?
11:59 < Eulero> yes
12:00 < Eulero> also if i have stopped playing
12:00 < Eulero> after i install it
12:00 < Eulero> and do whatever action
12:00 < Eulero> it begin to crash
12:01 < Eulero> and also if i close a start it again
12:02 < Eulero> it freeze as i connect to usb
12:02 < Eulero> usb work only at the first installation till a play the first song
12:03 < Eulero> or play the first plugin
12:03 < Eulero> from that moment if i want to use usb i have to reinstall original OS and reinstall Rockbox
12:04 < Eulero> do you want i try with the old version of rockbox ?
12:04 < TheSeven> no, this won't help
12:05 < TheSeven> as i said, you seem to be affected by that "USB only works if booted through DFU" bug
12:05 < TheSeven> this seems to affect some specific devices, and there don't seem to be many of those
12:05 < TheSeven> i can't reproduce that issue at all
12:05 < Eulero> i don't think is so ...
12:05 < Eulero> follow me
12:06 < Eulero> i install Rockbox
12:06 < Eulero> copy the folder .rockbox
12:06 < Eulero> by usb
12:06 < Eulero> ok but is another problem 
12:06 < Eulero> not connected to dfu mode
12:06 < TheSeven> sure?
12:07 < Eulero> yeah
12:07 < Eulero> sure 100%
12:07 < TheSeven> but you say starting from the second boot it doesn't work any more?
12:07 < Eulero> no
12:07 < Eulero> at the second boot it work
12:07 < Eulero> but only if i don't start any application or song
12:07 < Eulero> and it work also at third or fourth boot
12:08 < TheSeven> ok, so it does even work after a powerdown, but a powerdown doesn't fix it after playing music?
12:08 < Eulero> perfect
12:08 < Eulero> it's so!
12:08  * TheSeven has no explanation for that
12:08 < Eulero> :(
12:08 < Eulero> ;(
12:09 < TheSeven> nevertheless you could try if booting through DFU fixes it
12:09 < TheSeven> (as USB apparently works in DFU mode)
12:09 < Eulero> through select+menu ?
12:10 < TheSeven> hold menu+select for 12 seconds, to make it boot into dfu
12:10 < TheSeven> (it needs to be connected)
12:10 < Eulero> but so it doesnt start Rockbox right ?
12:10 < TheSeven> then let go of menu+select, wait a few seconds, and press and hold menu+select for another few seconds to make it boot normally again
12:10 < TheSeven> and check if usb works after doing that
12:10 < TheSeven> if it doesn't we can try booting rockbox *through* dfu as well
12:11 < Eulero> how ?
12:11 < TheSeven> do the regular bootstrap process and throw a rockbox.ubi file into umsboot instead of an installer
12:12 < TheSeven> (or you can as well just use an installer, which will attempt to update but effectively do nothing because everything is already up to date, and then boot emcore)
12:12 < TheSeven> another interesting question would be if you see any sign of USB activity from emcore in the "usb broken" state
12:13 < Eulero> how can i see that ?
12:13 < TheSeven> that depends on your pc operating system
12:13 < TheSeven> on linux, run lsusb
12:13 < TheSeven> on windows, you'll need to have a look at the device manager
12:13 < Eulero> windows XP and Mac osX
12:14 < Eulero> h ok
12:14 < Eulero> ok
12:14 < Eulero> i haven't understood ...
12:14 < Eulero> excuse my poor english ...
12:15 < Eulero> in next 4 hours i'll do what you ask
12:15 < Eulero> and report here the results
12:15 < TheSeven> do you get any "device connected" sound when plugging in your ipod while the boot menu is running?
12:15 < Eulero> let me know if i can do something more in order to help you to solve the problem
12:15 < Eulero> no
12:15 < Eulero> any sound
12:16 < TheSeven> and the device manager (inside computer management) doesn't show any reaction either?
12:16 < Eulero> and no resource to device manager
12:16 < Eulero> nothing nothign
12:16 < TheSeven> when you boot dfu mode, it does show up?
12:16 < Eulero> i can't try now
12:17 < Eulero> but i remember ... yes
12:17 < Eulero> infact to reinstall original firmware
12:17 < Eulero> i enter in DFU mode
12:17 < Eulero> and when put it in dfu mode the pc sound
12:17 < TheSeven> and if you just leave dfu mode again (by holding menu+select again until it boots)
12:17 < Eulero> and the resource manager show it
12:18 < Eulero> i haven't tried
12:18 < TheSeven> well, you can try now :)
12:18 < Eulero> in next few hour i'll try ... now i'm using my ipod 80 gb to move some iso to my hacked ps3 ;)
12:19 < Eulero> tnx TheSeven .. i'll report you all the answer to your question
12:20 < Eulero> i have seen also an option of debug ...
12:20 < Eulero> may i do anything useful for you with the debug option ?
12:20 < Eulero> if it will be useful i can do also a video for you
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18:11 < Lokdal> Hi there! I'm attempting to install EMCore//Rockbox on my iPod classic, and I can't get it into DFU mode
18:11 < Lokdal> Got any ideas?
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18:12 < Lokdal> What I did so far :
18:13 < Lokdal> 1. Installed iTunes 2. Plugged my device in, let it install the latest driver
18:13 < Lokdal> 3. Killed iTunes and all Apple related processes
18:14 < Lokdal> 4. Placed the hold switch on "not hold", held select and menu buttons for 15 secs
18:15 < Lokdal> 5. iTunes oppened and asked to install the recovery software, which I accepted
18:15 < Lokdal> 6. I then recovered my iPod cause I couldn't do anything else
18:16 < Lokdal> 7. Redid the steps 2 to 4
18:16 < Lokdal> 8. Now my iPod is closed (screen is off), no devices detected whatsoever in explorer
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18:24 < Lokdal> yay!! Got it installed correctly! Now... how do I put music on this thing? Copy through windows explorer?
18:26 < Eulero> also i have ipod classic but a problem with usb
18:26 < Eulero> Lokdal wich procedure you follow ?
18:27 < Lokdal> those : http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPod
18:27 < Lokdal> I selected my iPod (which is classic)
18:27 < Eulero> ok
18:27 < Lokdal> The only difference I had is, no iPod in recovery mode was detected. I simply opened the bootstrap when my iPod was shut down
18:27 < Eulero> have you tried to close and restart your ipod ?
18:28 < Eulero> after installation ?
18:28 < Lokdal> yup, works fine :)
18:30 < Eulero> damn (for me ;( )
18:36 < Eulero> TheSeven : i have tried what you told me ... doesn't work
18:36 < Lokdal> Do you get any error message«6
18:42 < Eulero> no
18:44 < Eulero> TheSeven told me
18:44 < Eulero> <TheSeven> if it doesn't we can try booting rockbox *through* dfu as well
18:44 < Eulero> but how can boot rockbox through dfu ?
18:45 < Lokdal> IS the screen off on your iPod?
18:47 < Eulero> i enter in DFU
18:48 < Eulero> but theseven told me to use "rockbox.ubi" that i don't have 
18:49 < Lokdal> you need to download it here
18:50 < Lokdal> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Releases
18:51 < Eulero> tnx for your help but there is the installer ...
18:51 < TheSeven> [20:15] <Lokdal> 5. iTunes oppened and asked to install the recovery software, which I accepted << so you apparently didn't kill it properly
18:51 < Eulero> hi the seven :)))))))
18:51 < TheSeven> [20:24] <Lokdal> yay!! Got it installed correctly! Now... how do I put music on this thing? Copy through windows explorer? << yes
18:51 < Eulero> i've done all you ask
18:51 < Lokdal> Its okay TheSeven, I got it figured out and fixed :) 
18:51 < Eulero> but nothing
18:52 < TheSeven> [20:27] <Lokdal> The only difference I had is, no iPod in recovery mode was detected. I simply opened the bootstrap when my iPod was shut down << it was not shut down, it was in DFU mode, like it is supposed to be
18:52 < Eulero> TheSeven i wait for you to finish with Lokdal, tnx
18:53 < TheSeven> [20:44] <Eulero> <TheSeven> if it doesn't we can try booting rockbox *through* dfu as well << just boot the installer through DFU again, like you did for the initial installation
18:53 < Eulero> le me know when i can speak
18:53 < TheSeven> it will realize that everything is already up to date and reboot into emcore
18:53 < TheSeven> i'd expect USB to work at that point
18:53 < TheSeven> if it does, we can try yet another way to narrow down what's happening
18:54 < Eulero> ok i try now
18:57 < Eulero> it does
18:57 < Eulero> ok
18:57 < Eulero> so it connect
18:57 < Eulero> what can i try to narrow down that ?
18:58 < TheSeven> if you power it down and power it up again, does it still work?
18:58 < TheSeven> (even if you don't try to play a track)
18:59 < Eulero> i'm palying a track
18:59 < Eulero> now i try to power down
19:00 < Eulero> no it freeze and doesn't connect
19:00 < TheSeven> so you actually *did* play a track in between?
19:00 < Eulero> yes
19:00 < TheSeven> now boot to dfu again
19:01 < TheSeven> run the bootstrapping tool
19:01 < Eulero> ok
19:01 < TheSeven> then throw this file onto the drive: http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/rockbox.ubi
19:01 < TheSeven> safely eject and unplug, as usual
19:01 < TheSeven> does usb now work as well?
19:01 < Eulero> downloading it
19:02 < TheSeven> if usb works after doing that, *don't* play a track, just power it down and up again, and check if it still works
19:02 < Eulero> ok usb connect
19:03 < Eulero> now no play
19:03 < Eulero> and now power down
19:03 < Eulero> wait
19:03 < Lokdal> hmmmph. I'll have a question once you guys are done
19:04 < TheSeven> feel free to ask it just now
19:04 < Eulero> The Seven it doesn't respond to any command
19:04 < TheSeven> ok, so after powering down and up again, the same thing happens like after playing music?
19:04 < Eulero> no
19:04 < Eulero> i can't power down
19:05 < TheSeven> oh, so it locked up in usb mode?
19:05 < Eulero> no
19:05 < Eulero> it go out usb mode
19:05 < Eulero> and if i reconnect it go in usb 
19:05 < Eulero> but no button is useful
19:05 < TheSeven> stupid question: hold switch?
19:06 < Eulero> like it was locked
19:06 < Eulero> no
19:06 < Eulero> :)
19:06 < Eulero> no lock
19:06 < TheSeven> does the lock symbol show?
19:06 < TheSeven> maybe it's reading the switch wrongly?
19:06 < Eulero> no
19:06 < Eulero> no lock symbol
19:06 < TheSeven> try locking and unlocking the hold switch
19:06 < TheSeven> does it respond to that?
19:06 < Eulero> to the lock button ?
19:06 < TheSeven> yes
19:07 < Eulero> yes
19:07 < TheSeven> do the buttons work again after that?
19:07 < Eulero> no
19:07 < TheSeven> hm, then start over... go to dfu again, and boot that ubi file again, and retry
19:07  * TheSeven leaves for half an hour
19:07 < Eulero> ok
19:09 < Eulero> i reboot again as you told me
19:09 < Eulero> but button always freeze
19:09 < Eulero> no answer before leaving ;) ?
19:10 < Eulero> ok i'll wait ;)
19:13 < Eulero> result: when i boot in DFU and put the file RockBox.ubi the device start but no button useful (only the lock switch is useful and correctly acting)
19:17 < Lokdal> Self answered my question. Eulero, I hope you get it to work, this software is great
19:17 < Eulero> i know
19:17 < Eulero> tnx
19:17 < Lokdal> Good luck :) 
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19:31 < Eulero> nothing i try also old iloader version ... nothing ..
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19:41 < Eulero> i go to eat in 10 minutes i'm back
19:45 < TheSeven> hmm, might be possible that the clickwheel doesn't get initialized properly if rockbox is booted directly on the classic
19:45 < TheSeven> so i'd suggest to try running the installer again, and checkign if usb works after a powerdown
20:04 < Eulero> i'm here
20:05 < Eulero> if i run the installer again it is usefull but usb isue appear
20:05 < Eulero> if i put again rockbox.ubi in dfu mode it lock buttons
20:06 < Eulero> i noticed that the version of rockbox.ubi is different from the one i install
20:06 < Eulero> is normal ?
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20:17 < Eulero> TheSeven  u there ?
20:19 < Eulero> i go to bed ... in italy is 22:18 ... ;)
20:19 < Eulero> i'll take pc connected all the night
20:19 < Eulero> if you answer me i'll read the answer tomorrow in the early morning
20:20 < Eulero> i hope you can help me ... i think your work can give new life to my ipod ... now i use it only like HD ... volume too low for using with my motorbike ;) ...
20:21 < Eulero> i wait for you 
20:21 < Eulero> bye
20:22 < TheSeven> [22:06] <Eulero> is normal ? << well, i just picked a version that i had lying around somewhere
20:22 < TheSeven> booting the installer through DFU is the only workaround that I can currently offer
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