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11:59 < ll> can i have an information about my semy-briked ipod nano 2g?
12:00 < liar> ll: just ask your question(and read the topic)
12:00 < [Saint]> I suppose that depends on what you mean by information, and what state "semi bricked" actually is.
12:01 < [Saint]> and yes, no need to "ask to ask"
12:01 < ll> ok sorry
12:01 < ll> i have embios on ipod
12:01 < ll> and it doesn't boot
12:17 < liar> ll: i think we need more information. are there any error messages?
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17:07 < Eulero> hi TheSeven
17:07 < Eulero> do you remember me ? the past week
17:08 < Eulero> i had problem with my ipod classic and usb connection after rockbox inastallation
17:08 < Eulero> you had given me rockbox.ubi and i have tryed with no success (usb ok but no button useful)
17:09 < TheSeven> yeah
17:09 < Eulero> our conversation stopped when i told you that the rockbox.ubi versione was different from the one installed during normal installation
17:09 < Eulero> is possible that this is the problem ?
17:10 < TheSeven> no, the problem is that rockbox seems to rely on clickwheel initialization to be performed by emcore, which we bypassed that way
17:10 < Eulero> ah ok
17:10 < Eulero> no way for me to use rockbox by now ?
17:11 < TheSeven> well, you can re-run the installer to get full access to it, right?
17:11 < TheSeven> so the remaining question would be when exactly it breaks after doing that
17:11 < Eulero> yes
17:11 < TheSeven> you said playing music is one trigger, which is completely new to me, and might be a very valuable hint
17:11 < TheSeven> other people have reported that it works until the next powerdown
17:12 < Eulero> no also playing music stopped
17:12 < TheSeven> so it might be worth checking if powering down breaks it as well on your device, i.e. if it's the same issue, and other just haven't tried playing music
17:12 < Eulero> after playing music usb no useful ...
17:12 < Eulero> you want me to try ?
17:13 < TheSeven> yep, would be helpful
17:13 < Eulero> ok now i try
17:17 < Eulero> ok first boot is ok
17:17 < Eulero> disconnect and reconnect
17:17 < Eulero> is ok
17:18 < Eulero> now without playing i will try to shut down and rebbot ok ?
17:18 < Eulero> now it hang up
17:18 < Eulero> is the same bug
17:18 < Eulero> (i think)
17:19 < TheSeven> ok
17:19 < TheSeven> does it always/sometimes/never hang on the usb screen even after unplugging?
17:19 < Eulero> may i help you in any manner ?
17:19 < Eulero> no never
17:19 < Eulero> usb screen doesn't appear
17:20 < Eulero> change only the icon up on the left
17:20 < Eulero> no usb connection screen
17:20 < TheSeven> oh? that's even more weird, as other people have reported that the usb screen came up but there was absolutely no bus reaction
17:21 < Eulero> no man no usb screen
17:21 < Eulero> trust me
17:21 < TheSeven> damn, this is getting more and more complex :/
17:21 < Eulero> if you want i will do a video
17:21 < TheSeven> but it recognizes that a power source is available?
17:21 < Eulero> yes
17:22 < Eulero> but on disconnectio remain the icon of power source
17:22 < TheSeven> but only if the connection failed?
17:23 < Eulero> always after the first boot or fist use ...
17:23 < Eulero> at the first boot is all regular
17:24 < TheSeven> ok, so it does go back to "using battery power" if the usb connection worked, but get stuck on "charger connected" if it didn't work?
17:24 < Eulero> yeah
17:24 < Eulero> at the first boot all is regular
17:25 < TheSeven> while it's in the installer or boot menu, does the pc recognize any USB device?
17:25 < TheSeven> does that also break after the first powerdown?
17:26 < Eulero> wait i try
17:27 < Eulero> nothing
17:27 < Eulero> while i'm in the bboot menu
17:28 < Eulero> nothing
17:28 < Eulero> but is a news
17:28 < Eulero> if i connect the ipod while it is in the boot menu
17:28 < Eulero> and select rockbox
17:28 < Eulero> now it stuck on the usb screen
17:29 < Eulero> 1) if i connect the usb when rocckbox started it stuck on the normal menu
17:30 < Eulero> 2) if i connect the usb while in menu and then star rockbox with usb connected it stuck on the usb connection screen
17:30 < Eulero> may i do more for u man ?
17:32 < TheSeven> so it stays on the usb screen even if you unplug it, and usb doesn't work nevertheless?
17:32 < Eulero> yeah
17:32 < TheSeven> i've just looked at the relevant parts of the source code again: it's basically impossible that rockbox detects a charger, but not a usb connection
17:33 < TheSeven> so the logical conclusion would be that it does detect the usb connection event, but doesn't react to it for some reason, probably because the USB thread died or locked up
17:34 < Eulero> i'm at your disposal for any kind of experiment you need
17:34 < Eulero> if it may help
17:35 < TheSeven> can you go to "system" => "debug (keep out!)" => "view os stacks", and check if a USB entry is present in that list?
17:35 < Eulero> if you need i can give also my email 
17:35 < TheSeven> and if yes, what are the values in front of it?
17:35 < Eulero> wait i rebbot
17:36 < TheSeven> do this first with usb unplugged, then with usb plugged, both in the broken state
17:36 < Eulero> 2:B 18 18 3% usb
17:37 < Eulero> wait i connect to usb
17:37 < Eulero> the stack usage freeze when i connect usb ...
17:37 < Eulero> it remain the same
17:38 < TheSeven> so the ipod locks up as soon as you connect usb?
17:38 < Eulero> yeah
17:38 < Eulero> it freeae as soon as i connect
17:38 < Eulero> freeze
17:39 < TheSeven> hm
18:00 < Eulero> ;(
18:00 < Eulero> sigh
18:00 < Eulero> i hoped ne life for my ipod ;)
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