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01:40 < MallardDuck> Hello
01:41 < MallardDuck> :( Everyone's asleep?
01:41 < [Saint]> Just ask your question.
01:42 < [Saint]> deciding that everyone is asleep because no one answered you (read the topic) after ~1 minute is a poor call ;)
01:42 < MallardDuck> Lol. >.<
01:44 < MallardDuck> So i'm trying to follow the instructions on the wizard and i'm getting an error about usb.core
01:44 < [Saint]> at what point?
01:44 < MallardDuck> I'm still in the bootstrapping step.
01:44 < MallardDuck> running the ipoddfu.py script
01:45 < [Saint]> the iPod is definitely in DFU mode, and you're running the command as root?
01:46 < MallardDuck> I held the select and menu button until it turned black after rebooting
01:46 < MallardDuck> and i did a sudo
01:46 < [Saint]> What is the exact error it's spitting at you?
01:46 < [Saint]> ()use pastebin if need be)
01:47 < MallardDuck> it's not too long.
01:48 < MallardDuck> http://pastebin.com/eic9hhT6
01:50 < [Saint]> that's the entire thing?
01:51 < MallardDuck> yep
01:52 < [Saint]> Sometimes it can take a very long time for this step to complete, have you given it ~10 minutes-ish to see if it does complete?
01:53 < [Saint]> and, do you also have pyUSB installed?
01:53 < MallardDuck> i'm thinking that might be my problem
01:54 < MallardDuck> i've got 0.4.2.2
01:54 < [Saint]> you need pyUSB 1.0.0-a1
01:54 < [Saint]> 0.4.2.2 won't work iiuc.
01:54 < MallardDuck> ahh..alrighty, that's not on my repository for some reason.
01:56 < MallardDuck> i'm on a web client, i don't have dcc
01:57 < [Saint]> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyusb/files/PyUSB%201.0/1.0.0-alpha-1/pyusb-1.0.0-a1.tar.gz/download
01:57 < MallardDuck> i'll find it
01:57 < MallardDuck> why thank you sir.
01:58 < [Saint]> put that....somewhere (doesn't matter), cd to the dir, then do "sudo python setup.py install"
01:59 < [Saint]> after that, all should be golden.
02:02 < MallardDuck> dfu upload failed at 2/7
02:02 < MallardDuck> one sec i'm gonna redownload the file
02:02 < [Saint]> Hmmmm....right, jumped out of one issue to another.
02:04 < MallardDuck> sucess
02:04 < MallardDuck> i just needed to redownload the bootstrap.dfu file
02:04 < [Saint]> Aha, nice.
02:12 < MallardDuck> sweet. i got it running. thanks for the help
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02:37 < peter__> Hi everyone, I'm trying to install emcore using gnu/linux x64 onto an ipod classic and had the a question about the pyusb installation.  I have the required dependencies, but the instructions say," pyusb is installed into that version."  I only installed the pyusb via it's setup script.  Is there an additional step to copy the usb.core module in a specific place?  Thanks! peter_
02:39 < peter__> line 27 of libipoddfu.py says "import usb.core" and that's where the scripts stops
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03:35 < [Saint]> peter__: Do you have pyUSB installed?
03:35 < [Saint]> you need pyUSb 1.0.0-a1 installed
03:35 < [Saint]>  http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyusb/files/PyUSB%201.0/1.0.0-alpha-1/pyusb-1.0.0-a1.tar.gz/download
03:36 < [Saint]> put that....somewhere (doesn't matter), cd to the dir, then do "sudo python setup.py install"
03:37 < [Saint]> disregard the sudo for windows operating systems, but make sure you have administrative rights.
04:24 < peter__> Hi, thanks for that input.  I installed libusb 1.0.6 with apt and pyusb 1.0.0-a1 with the instructions.  Before I dig into the script I will just copy the error here.
04:25 < peter__> $ sudo python ipoddfu.py bootstrap-ipodclassic.dfu
04:25 < peter__> Traceback (most recent call last):
04:25 < peter__>   File "ipoddfu.py", line 26, in <module>
04:25 < peter__>     import libipoddfu
04:25 < peter__>   File "/home/peter/Downloads/freemyipod/libipoddfu.py", line 27, in <module>
04:25 < peter__>     import usb.core
04:25 < peter__> ImportError: No module named core
04:39 < peter__> I think this must be a problem with my pyUSB installation.  It looks like you guys have done a tone of work.  Great Job! I will also read your pages on firmware dump/extraction
04:50 < peter__> [problem solved] I had another installation of pyusb version 0.41.  I un-installed it and got a little further.
04:52 < peter__> Here is the error message where it got hung.  Is it safe to unplug the iPod still?
04:52 < peter__> $ sudo python ipoddfu.py bootstrap-ipodclassic.dfu
04:52 < peter__> Connected to S5L8702 Bootrom DFU mode, USB version 1
04:52 < peter__> Upload: .......... failed: 2 / 7
04:52 < peter__> Traceback (most recent call last):
04:52 < peter__>   File "ipoddfu.py", line 33, in <module>
04:52 < peter__>     dev.uploadfile(sys.argv[1])
04:52 < peter__>   File "/home/peter/Downloads/freemyipod/libipoddfu.py", line 160, in uploadfile
04:52 < peter__>     self.upload(data, exploit)
04:52 < peter__>   File "/home/peter/Downloads/freemyipod/libipoddfu.py", line 151, in upload
04:52 < peter__>     raise Exception("DFU upload failed! (%X / %X)" % (result[4], result[0]))
04:52 < peter__> Exception: DFU upload failed! (2 / 7)
05:03 < MallardDuck> redownload this file
05:03 < MallardDuck> http://files.freemyipod.org/releases/20110406/bootstrap-ipodclassic-r692-20110406.dfu
05:03 < MallardDuck> doing that fixed the 2/7 error for me.
05:03 < MallardDuck> @peter__
05:03 < MallardDuck> peter__
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14:30 < diggler> g'dAY ALL
14:31 < diggler> emcore should run smoothly on my 160 GB classic right?
14:32 < diggler> tried the workaround but not everything is going as planned
14:33 < diggler> when i shut down itunes the "applemobiledevicehelper" also shuts automatically
14:33 < Farthen> huh?
14:33 < Farthen> what is your exact problem?
14:34 < Farthen> did you already install it?
14:34 < diggler> ah ok
14:34 < diggler> i get an error
14:34 < diggler> no i tried
14:34 < diggler> "could not open DFU device"
14:35 < diggler> this is what i did
14:35 < diggler> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic/DFUiTunes
14:35 < diggler> Download this file Connect your iPod to your computer Make sure iTunes is closed Kill "AppleMobileDeviceHelper.exe" using the task manager Open the task manager (press CTRL + SHIFT + ESC) Click on the "Processes" tab Choose "AppleMobileDeviceService.exe" Press the "End Process" button Press "End Process" to confirm Make sure the hold switch is not locked Press and hold the menu and select buttons for between 10 and 15 se
14:36 < diggler> went wrong while resetting the ipod.
14:36 < diggler> drivers installed ok, but then itunes started
14:37 < Farthen> ok
14:38 < Farthen> can you try killing iTunesHelper.exe, too?
14:38 < diggler> no
14:38 < diggler> cause it aint there
14:38 < diggler> it opens and closes with itunes
14:39 < Farthen> when you close itunes, do you have any of itunes.exe, applemobiledevicehelper.exe or ituneshelper.exe running?
14:40 < diggler> no, all apple / itunes stuff is not running
14:40 < Farthen> then itunes should not open
14:41 < diggler> true
14:41 < Farthen> which version of windows is that?
14:41 < diggler> now it didn't
14:41 < diggler> w7
14:41 < Farthen> ok, just try the dfu util again. it should work now
14:41 < diggler> ipod is now visible in computer so drivers should be loaded
14:42 < diggler> when i execute the bootstrapfile i still get the error
14:42 < Farthen> are you sure you have dfu mode running on your ipod?
14:43 < Farthen> what do you see on your screen?
14:43 < diggler> "cant find path (...) 
14:43 < Farthen> no, your ipod's screen ;)
14:43 < diggler> ;) connected 
14:44 < Farthen> ok, this is disk mode
14:44 < Farthen> 1. Make sure your iPod is turned on and connected to your computer.
14:44 < Farthen> 2. Press and hold the menu and select buttons for between 10 and 15 seconds (The iPod starts to reboot after about 5 seconds, keep holding the buttons until it seems to turn off completely)
14:44 < Farthen> 3. The display of your iPod should now stay black, and a new USB device called "USB DFU Device" should connect to your PC.
14:44 < Farthen> try this to enable dfu mode
14:45 < diggler> nothings happening
14:45 < diggler> ipods screens black
14:46 < Farthen> ok, that is the desired situation
14:46 < diggler> ok
14:46 < Farthen> now try the dfu utility again
14:46 < diggler> shouldnt i wait for the driverthing?
14:47 < diggler> the usb dfu device to connect to my pc?
14:47 < Farthen> it didn't finish installing the driver yet?
14:47 < Farthen> just wait until that finishes
14:47 < diggler> dunno
14:48 < Farthen> just try it, it can't hurt
14:48 < diggler> clicked the exe file and something happened
14:48 < diggler> üms boot has been launched"
14:48 < Farthen> ok, great. just follow the guide, you are almost done
14:48 < diggler> ah ok thx dude
14:49 < diggler> i'll be back here to inform
14:49 < diggler> about the status
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15:21  * TheSeven should add an autoresponse trigger: "usb.core" => "do you have pyusb 1.0.0a0 or later installed?"
15:44 < diggler> guess its working now!
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18:51 < diggler> hi all
18:52 < diggler> tried emcore - rockbox combi but it wasnt it for me
18:52 < diggler> seems to be not the ideal thing for a 160 gb classic
18:53 < diggler> how to undo all and go back to itunes?
18:54 < diggler> this is what freemyipod says
18:54 < diggler> iPod Classic  Warning: Uninstalling emCORE will delete ALL data on your iPod Classic! Install iTunes on your computer (if you don't have) Connect your iPod to your computer Press and hold the menu and select buttons for between 10 and 15 seconds (The iPod starts to reboot after about 5 seconds, keep holding the buttons until it seems to turn off completely) The display of your iPod should now stay black, and a new USB de
18:55 < diggler> so i did but my win7 system doesnt recognize the usb dfu device
19:03 < Farthen> do the same thing i told you last time
19:04 < Farthen> and wait until the screen gets black
19:09 < diggler> i did it all using the manual
19:10 < diggler> but the device manager only states "usb dfu device"
19:10 < Farthen> ok, open itunes
19:10 < diggler> it needs a proper driver
19:10 < Farthen> no it does not
19:10 < Farthen> usb dfu driver is the driver for it
19:11 < Farthen> open itunes and it will tell you that an ipod in recovery mode is connected
19:11 < diggler> ok screen is black now
19:12 < diggler> itunes is running now
19:12 < diggler> in computer there is no  ipod visible
19:12 < diggler> and no ipod in itunes
19:13 < Farthen> because dfu mode is not a mass storage device
19:13 < Farthen> it is a recovery mode
19:13 < diggler> ah ok
19:13 < Farthen> please close itunes and open it again
19:13 < diggler> ok
19:13 < diggler> no ipod
19:13 < Farthen> sometimes it only detects the ipod when it's opened while it is connected
19:14 < Farthen> doesn't a window pop up saying that there is an ipod in recovery mode connected?
19:14 < diggler> nope
19:14 < Farthen> please try to unplug your ipod and replug it
19:14 < Farthen> then re-enter dfu mode and try again
19:14 < Farthen> it should recognize it
19:14 < diggler> just did that too
19:14 < diggler> no result
19:15 < Farthen> silly itunes
19:15 < Farthen> can you try plugging it into a different usb port?
19:16 < diggler> did that oo
19:16 < Farthen> then i can't think of anything else but reboot the computer. sorry
19:16 < diggler> should ituneshelper be running?
19:16 < Farthen> yes it should
19:17 < diggler> it does
19:17 < diggler> so reboot huh
19:17 < Farthen> i can't think of anything else
19:17 < diggler> ok brb
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19:24 < diggler> hey farthen
19:24 < Farthen> hi
19:24 < diggler> when i connect the ipod --> itunes starts
19:24 < diggler> but i dont see it as i used to
19:26 < Farthen> is the ipod still in dfu mode?
19:26 < diggler> version 10. 2. 2.14
19:26 < diggler> yep
19:26 < diggler> still see usb dfu device in device manager
19:27 < diggler> when i try to update it cannot be installed
19:27 < Farthen> what happens when you are resetting your ipod? does it boot back into the boot menu?
19:27 < diggler> hold on
19:27 < diggler> yep
19:28 < Farthen> ok, now enter dfu mode again and try the whole thing again
19:28 < diggler> now devicemanager says "emcore debugger"
19:28 < Farthen> you need to hold the two buttons for a longer time
19:29 < Farthen> about 12 seconds
19:29 < diggler> black screen now
19:30 < diggler> pc doesnt see it
19:30 < Farthen> not even as a dfu device?
19:30 < diggler> see usb dfu device in device manager again
19:30 < Farthen> ok
19:30 < diggler> in itunes nothing
19:33 < Farthen> look at edit->preferences->devices in itunes. is "prevent ipods, iphones and ipads from syncing automatically" deactivated?
19:33 < Farthen> just a blind guess
19:34 < diggler> no it was activated
19:34 < Farthen> yes, deactivate it
19:34 < diggler> ok
19:34 < Farthen> then restart itunes
19:34 < TheSeven> what's the exact device name in the device manager, and what's the driver vendor?
19:35 < TheSeven> i'd suggest to completely uninstall and reinstall the DFU device
19:35 < diggler> restarted itunes, nothing yet
19:36 < diggler> ok i uninstalled the usb dfu device
19:37 < diggler> searched for new hardware
19:37 < diggler> same problem stays here
19:38 < diggler> still
19:39 < diggler> when i connect the ipod --> itunes starts
19:39 < Farthen> itunes should get a dialog box out after that
19:39 < Farthen> i don't understand why it doesn't do it for you
19:39 < diggler> well i hoped it would but it doesnt
19:39 < Farthen> are you sure that your usb cable is fine?
19:40 < diggler> reinstall itunes?
19:40 < diggler> first uninstall or just install again
19:40 < Farthen> if you want to do that i'd suggest to first uninstall it
19:40 < Farthen> but i'm not sure if that will work
19:41 < Farthen> your usb cable doesn't look damaged or something like that?
19:41 < diggler> no its new
19:41 < Farthen> did you experience bad connection to your ipod before?
19:41 < diggler> not at all
19:42 < TheSeven> so you see a dfu device in the device manager?
19:42 < TheSeven> could you answer my question what the exact device name is?
19:43 < diggler> ok
19:43 < diggler> under extra devices
19:43 < diggler> "usb dfu device"
19:43 < diggler> with a yellow period
19:44 < TheSeven> aha
19:44 < TheSeven> double-click that
19:44 < TheSeven> what does windows complain about?
19:44 < diggler> not installed
19:44 < TheSeven> so you should probably let it install the driver for it
19:45 < diggler> i knew this an hour ago
19:45 < diggler> but u said this was good
19:45 < diggler> ?
19:45 < diggler> so i need to install this driver right?
19:45 < TheSeven> you need to install *itunes's* driver
19:46 < diggler> correct
19:46 < diggler> how
19:46 < TheSeven> not the freemyipod.org one
19:46 < TheSeven> just let windows search for a driver, and choose the right one
19:46 < diggler> win7 doesnt work
19:46 < diggler> it searches but doesnt find
19:46 < Farthen> it should be in C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Apple
19:46 < diggler> ah ok wait
19:47 < Farthen> activate the box that says "search subfolders"
19:47 < Farthen> it could be in c:\program files depending on your operating system
19:47 < TheSeven> i wonder how one can even make windows forget where this one is
19:48 < TheSeven> the only way i know of is manually deleting some oem*.inf files
19:48 < diggler> cannot be installed
19:49 < diggler> tries program files: apple
19:49 < diggler> ipod
19:49 < diggler> and itunes
19:49 < Farthen> did you read the path i gave you?
19:49 < Farthen> c:\program files\common files\apple
19:49 < Farthen> *common files*
19:49 < diggler> ah the common
19:49 < diggler> plz wait
19:50 < diggler> now we're getting there
19:50 < diggler> ah thats fine!
19:50 < diggler> device working ok
19:51 < diggler> now starting itujnes
19:51 < diggler> and the dialog box...
19:51 < diggler> appears!
19:51 < diggler> recovering...
19:52 < diggler> waiting
19:52 < diggler> and its alive
19:52 < diggler> formatting in windows?
19:53 < Farthen> itunes should have done that for you
19:53 < Farthen> just use it as normal now
19:53 < diggler> windows asked first ;)
19:53 < Farthen> please wait for the recovery process to finish
19:54 < diggler> i will
19:55 < diggler> WOW
19:55 < diggler> its working again
19:56 < diggler> now filling it up
19:56 < diggler> a big thanks for you!
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19:56 < diggler> and for TheSeven
19:57 < diggler> u were a big help
19:57 < diggler> couldn't have done it without u
19:57 < diggler> CHEERS!
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20:54 < TheSeven> then why do you even try this in the first place?
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21:08 < Guest60841> Whenever I plug my ipod into my computer, the ipod always freezes up
21:09 < Guest60841> always hangs on files
21:16 < Farthen> Guest60841: are you running rockbox or the original firmware?
21:17 < Guest60841> Rockbox
21:17 < Guest60841> I am using emcore, so when I click on rockbox when plugged in
21:17 < Guest60841> it freezes up
21:17 < Guest60841> and it's not recognized by the computer
21:23 < TheSeven> Guest60841: you're talking about an ipod classic?
21:23 < Guest60841> yes
21:23 < TheSeven> if yes, can you try these alternate files? (just re-run the installation with them):
21:23 < TheSeven> http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/installer-ipodclassic-usbfixcandidate.ubi
21:23 < TheSeven> http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/rockbox-ipodclassic-usbfixcandidate.zip
21:24 < Guest60841> Ok
21:24 < Guest60841> I will see if they work
21:45 < Guest60841> so far they work!
21:45 < Guest60841> thanks for all the hecl
21:45 < Guest60841> help
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23:23 < ix> So, talking power consumption on iPods - any way to get better mileage?
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