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05:16 < peter__> Hello all,
05:16 < peter__> I was wondering about your firmware dumping instructions.  It uses the dd (duplicate disk) command.  I have already made a complete backup of my iPod classic using dd as a separate partition on my computer.  Does the firmware reside on the iPod's HD or is it in NVram?  I noticed the emcore instructions have the iPod completely powered off, which makes me think it's not on the HD.  If that's the case, would I still be able to restore back using 
05:16 < peter__> dd?
05:16 < peter__> Thanks, Peter_
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06:15 < peter__> I was thinking that it would be possible to modify the seven's libipoddfu.py script to read the iPod's firmware to a backup image.
07:16 < [7]> peter__: reading the firmware using dd only works up to the ipod nano 2g
07:16 < [7]> and also that won't capture the bootloader, just the main firmware (which, in the early days, was the only thing we patched)
07:17 < [7]> on the ipod classic (and nowadays also on the nano2g), we rewrite the whole firmware, including the part on the boot flash
07:17 < [7]> you can't dump that through dd, and you can't dump it through DFU either (DFU mode doesn't directly access the flash, but some kind of boot ramdisk)
07:18 < [7]> the only way to make a complete backup would be booting custom code on the ipod (through this ramdisk) and then use that to dump whatever you want
07:19 < [7]> also, on the classic, you won't see the whole HDD on the USB mass storage device, if you're using the apple firmware, so you can't even dump the full hdd using dd
07:20 < [7]> so if you want to backup everything, you should follow the installation process up to the point where the installer shows you the legalese and asks you to accept it
07:20 < [7]> up to that point, nothing on the flash or HDD will be touched
07:20 < [7]> and you can connect through the USB debugging interface to dump these things
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