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16:43 < Clothahump> could anyone help me here? 1. where can i get a .ucl packer / extractor and 2. where can i get the fastboot file for apple os??
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17:25 < deke2010> anybody here?
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17:36 < deke2010> Why doesn't doom work? I installed the WAD but when it starts it freezes at "starting graphics engine" and i have to reboot. 
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18:03 < deke2010> .
18:07 < Clothahump> hey any1 able to help me?
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19:09 < TheSeven> Clothahump: there's a tool called ucl2e10singleblk in our SVN
19:10 < Clothahump> and the other question
19:10 < TheSeven> i'm not sure if such a thing exists... it could be built easily though
19:11  * TheSeven remembers someone releasing some variants of it, but neither who nor where that way
19:11 < TheSeven> was*
19:11 < Clothahump> yeah because it's mentioned in the wiki^^
19:11 < TheSeven> on which page?
19:12 < Clothahump> w8
19:12 < Clothahump> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Fastboot
19:13 < Clothahump> quote "Nano 2G users: If you mainly use Apple's firmware and would like to "fastboot" into it, please ask on IRC for a modified fastboot build that boots OF[1] instead.!
19:13 < TheSeven> that doesn't mean that someone ever actually built one :)
19:14 < Clothahump> heheh
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19:21 < TheSeven> Clothahump: http://files.freemyipod.org/misc/fastboot-of.emcoreapp (untested)
19:24 < Clothahump> thank you
19:25 < Clothahump> i'll test and tell you if it works
19:26 < Clothahump> is a compiled version of ucl2e10singleblk avaible or do i have to compile it by myself?
19:28 < Clothahump> btw the fastboot file works ty
20:07 < TheSeven> Clothahump: compiled version for which platform?
20:09 < Clothahump> win
20:10 < Clothahump> (32)
20:11 < Clothahump> but i think that doesn't matter since little tools like this are usual x86 , right?
20:49  * TheSeven has a windows build of it lying around somewhere
20:52 < Clothahump> :D
21:00 < TheSeven> Clothahump: http://files.freemyipod.org/misc/ucl-win.zip
21:01 < Clothahump> ok thank you very very much ;D
21:02 < TheSeven> just out of curiosity, what do you even need that one for?
21:05 < Clothahump> modify theme
21:05 < Clothahump> :D
21:15 < TheSeven> hm, I don't think we're using UCLs anywhere in the themes any more
21:15 < TheSeven> should be all PNGs by now
21:17 < Clothahump> k where can i find them since they don't seem to be in the old themes folder
21:20 < TheSeven> the emcore boot menu theme is stored on the bootflash to prevent users from accidentally deleting them / tampering with them, which caused lots of support cases like a year ago
21:21 < TheSeven> the data that's stored there is available in our svn
21:21 < TheSeven> http://websvn.freemyipod.org/listing.php?repname=freemyipod&path=%2Fapps%2Fbootmenu-ipodnano2g%2Fimages%2F&#ae408e1497265b074b8c4908ba5e1600e
21:32 < TheSeven> if you want to keep the menu structure but replace the graphics you'll have to reflash your ipod
21:32 < TheSeven> if you want to change the menu structure as well, you'll have to change the boot menu code and recompile it
21:33 < TheSeven> you can however install a different boot menu in the same way that you installed the fastboot app
21:33 < TheSeven> so if someone really wants to make custom themes, he can make them installable that way without the need for reflashing
21:36 < Clothahump> by just replacing the original files after being loaded with some extra code?
21:37 < TheSeven> changing the graphics without reflashing means patching the graphics paths in the source code, recompiling, and installing it as /.boot/init.emcoreapp
21:39 < Clothahump> yeah or just write a demon that modifies loaded paths so it shows up custom images, so users could easily select custom themes. would be a bit difficult and would need some mem but it's possible^^
21:39 < Clothahump> *daemon
21:40 < TheSeven> someone was actually considering to patch the boot menu to keep some config file on the HDD that tells it how to behave and what to do on boot, removing the need for the fastboot apps
21:41 < Clothahump> that's a great idea
21:41 < TheSeven> you could even make the behavior configurable somewhere in the tools menu then
21:41 < TheSeven> but it would of course require some work to actually implement this idea
21:41 < Clothahump> yep
21:41 < Clothahump> that's nearly what i mean
21:42 < TheSeven> and I think we lost track of it while discussing what the best way to implement a generic config file format and associated parsing/editing library would be
21:43 < Clothahump> :D
21:44 < Clothahump> maybe^^
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