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18:42 < czar> hello guys
18:43 < czar> i have some problem with my ipod nano 2g
18:43 < czar> after patching with iloader installer
18:44 < czar> now it is unknown and i see only battery charge icon
18:44 < [7]> ouch
18:44 < [7]> what did you do before that happened?
18:45 < czar> i have wiped data with itunes
18:45 < czar> factory reset
18:47 < czar> anyone hs ideas??
18:48 < [7]> that's very interesting...
18:49 < [7]> did you do that with the apple firmware, disk mode or rockbox running on the ipod?
18:54 < czar> i used rockbox
18:55 < czar> i wanted to install emcore so I followed the instructions
18:57 < czar> can i save it in some way??
18:57 < czar> say me yes..
18:59 < [7]> hm? you could have just updated it through umsboot...
18:59 < [7]> it's very likely that whatever has happened is recoverable, but I haven't fully understood what exactly is going on yet
19:01 < czar> eheh ok...I will try to explain better, in my bad English
19:03 < [7]> so you basically did an itunes restore while rockbox was running, in order to upgrade to emcore?
19:10 < czar> I used the ipod with Rockbox (but this did not preclude the use of the apple system). Today I tried to install iloader through the steps outlined on the site.. when I start the iPod, iloader had started, but it has not been done successful, there is an error in partition so i have format drive and restored with itunes. so I tried again the experience with emcore (with the same procedure) and this time it went much worse
19:11 < czar> now the ipod is not recognized even as the mass storage, neither on windows or linux
19:12 < czar> yes
19:17 < [7]> czar: so how exactly is the ipod currently behaving?
19:17 < [7]> if you power it on, it goes straight to a white screen with a battery symbol and then powers off?
19:18 < czar> exactly
19:19 < [7]> damn
19:19 < [7]> that's about the worst that can happen
19:19 < czar> is there any way to force detection?
19:20 < czar> well....
19:20 < [7]> this means that our bootloader isn't yet installed, and something is corrupted in a way that makes apple's bootloader freak out
19:20 < [7]> and apple sadly doesn't have a sane recovery mode on this device
19:21 < [7]> (they added that on the 3g)
19:22 < [7]> if our bootloader would be installed, we could supply everything neccessary for booting via USB, but apple's bootloader doesn't allow that
19:22 < [7]> so when you tried to install emcore, how far did you get before it failed? (and how did it fail?)
19:24 < czar> error in partitioning
19:24 < czar> (the first time)
19:24 < czar> but second time nothing
19:25 < czar> nothing has been started
19:25 < czar> only this problem
19:27 < [7]> so you first had rockbox installed on the device (via the rockbox utility?)
19:28 < czar> yes
19:28 < [7]> then you set up an iloader installer using ipodpatcher?
19:28 < czar> yes
19:28 < czar> ipodpatcher -a installer*.ipodx
19:29 < czar> as the guide
19:29 < [7]> and after you did that, what happened?
19:29 < [7]> did the installer start up correctly?
19:29 < czar> no
19:29 < czar> did not start anything
19:30 < czar> and when i safety unplug my ipod, i had this problem
19:31 < [7]> i'm talking about the iloader installation attempt, not the emcore one
19:31 < czar> ah ok...in that case the installation has started, but returned an error in partitioning
19:32 < czar> but I managed to format it and restore it
19:33 < [7]> ok, so you restored it, and then ran ipodpatcher again, with emcore this time?
19:34 < czar> exactly
19:34 < [7]> and after unplugging, it went to that battery screen?
19:34 < czar> with emcore installer instead of iloader
19:35 < czar> yes
19:35 < czar> yes
19:35 < [7]> in that case the emcore installer was never even run
19:36 < czar> and I am doomed to limbo?
19:37 < [7]> apparently something in the past (no idea what) corrupted the FTL a bit, and the process of writing the emcore installer to the flash hit that and corrupted it even more
19:37 < [7]> not it's in a state where apple's code can neither mount nor restore it
19:38 < [7]> now*
19:39 < czar> fantastic
19:40 < czar> the only solution is apple's assistance ?!?
19:41 < [7]> well, I know of a way... but I'm not sure if you want to attempt that
19:43 < czar> :) can get worse?
19:43 < czar> i could try
19:44 < [7]> well, it involves disassembling the ipod and soldering a tiny wire to the mainboard
19:45 < czar> which wire? a bridge?
19:45 < czar> also because otherwise I should sell it in pieces
19:49 < [7]> I'm wondering if there is a software way left...
19:49 < user890104> [7]: what about nor dfu?
19:49 < [7]> no matter what you do (disk/diag mode key combination, multiple reboots, whatever), it doesn't get past that battery screen?
19:50 < [7]> user890104: IIRC this bootloader is broken enough to check for that *after* attempting (and failing) to initialize the FTL
19:50 < [7]> but it might be worth a try
19:51 < user890104> i used it once to recover my nano2g from a weird condition after an unsuccessful install and it worked fine with emcoreldr-*.dfu
19:51 < czar> i have tried only with SELECT+MENU
19:55 < czar> how should i act?
20:02 < czar> hey
20:09 < user890104> connect the ipod to a computer, press and hold menu+select until it restarts. immediately after it restarts, release the buttons and press and hold menu+play until you enter Disk mode
20:09 < user890104> if this is not successful, repeat the same procedure, but hold back+play instead of menu+play after restarting
20:10 < czar> To access DFU mode, reset the iPod with MENU+SELECT, then press and hold BACK+PLAY. A picture of the dock connector should appear with the Apple support URL; according to lsusb, this is DFU mode.To access DFU mode, reset the iPod with MENU+SELECT, then press and hold BACK+PLAY. A picture of the dock connector should appear with the Apple support URL; according to lsusb, this is DFU mode.
20:11 < czar> i'm here
20:11 < user890104> so you see this picture on the screen: http://km.support.apple.com/library/APPLE/APPLECARE_ALLGEOS/TS1376/TS1376_1.jpg
20:12 < czar> yes
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20:13 < czar> i tend to follow this guide: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Troubleshooting#Uploading_an_emCORE_binary
20:14 < czar> but i don't find " emcoreldr-ipodnano2g.dfu"
20:14 < czar> where is it?
20:16 < user890104> i'll give you a link to one
20:18 < user890104> http://www.datafilehost.com/download-fdde9bcc.html
20:18 < czar> thank you
20:19 < czar> i try
20:20 < czar> ehm..
20:20 < czar> Traceback (most recent call last):   File "ipoddfu.py", line 26, in <module>     import libipoddfu   File "/home/cesare/libipoddfu.py", line 27, in <module>     import usb.core ImportError: No module named usb.core
20:20 < czar> usb.core...i'm on ubuntu
20:23 < czar> mm maybe python-usb
20:24 < user890104> yes, you need 1.x
20:24 < czar> the same error
20:26 < user890104> installing python-usb with apt-get will most likely install 0.x version
20:26 < czar> oh yes
20:26 < czar> i've solved
20:26 < czar> now ipod is up!
20:26 < czar> mm
20:26 < czar> loading emcore...
20:27 < user890104> did you follow the instructions?
20:28 < czar> yes
20:29 < czar> could i load a .bin?
20:29 < czar> seems more updated
20:29 < user890104> if you see "loading emcore" that means you didn't enter recovery mode
20:31 < user890104> see here: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Troubleshooting#DFU_Mode
20:31 < czar> ah right..
20:32 < user890104> after completing these steps, follow "uploading an installer"
20:32 < czar> i'm not in recovery mod
20:32 < czar> :S
20:32 < user890104> and use the most recent installer
20:32 < czar> only on windows?
20:32 < user890104> http://files.freemyipod.org/releases/20110424/installer-ipodnano2g-r708-20110424.ubi
20:33 < czar> but how do I get into recovery mode?
20:33 < user890104> you just said that you are in recovery mode?
20:33 < user890104> ah, my mistake
20:34 < user890104> here is the order:
20:34 < user890104> 1. enter DFU mode with select+menu, them back+play
20:34 < czar> yes
20:34 < user890104> 2. follow the steps for DFU mode
20:34 < user890104> 3. follow the steps for Uploading an installer using the .ubi file above
20:35 < czar> this is the output: sudo python ipoddfu.py emcoreldr-ipodnano2g.dfu Connected to iPod Nano 2G NOR DFU mode, USB version 1 Upload: ..... done
20:35 < user890104> did you turn on the hold switch before executing this command?
20:36 < czar> unlock, to be clear?
20:36 < user890104> lock it
20:36 < czar> ops
20:36 < czar> try again
20:36 < user890104> hold ON = locked
20:42 < czar> Connected to iPod Nano 2G NOR DFU mode, USB version 1 Upload: .Traceback (most recent call last):   File "ipoddfu.py", line 33, in <module>     dev.uploadfile(sys.argv[1])   File "/home/cesare/libipoddfu.py", line 160, in uploadfile     self.upload(data, exploit)   File "/home/cesare/libipoddfu.py", line 131, in upload     self.dev.ctrl_transfer(0x21, 1, index, 0, data[2048 * index : 2048 * (index + 1)],   100)   File "/usr/li
20:42 < czar> wonderful
20:42 < czar> pipe error
20:43 < czar> okok
20:43 < czar> i'm in recovery mode
20:43 < czar> perfect
20:47 < user890104> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Troubleshooting#Uploading_an_emCORE_installer
20:47 < user890104> follow this steps then
20:47 < user890104> these*
20:48 < czar> i have a lot of errors
20:48 < czar> http://pastebin.com/g3A2zHSS
20:49 < czar> i have  hold switch still turn on
20:51 < user890104> let me see
21:00 < czar> anything?
21:00 < user890104> yeah, same for me
21:01 < user890104> can you try with this file instead? http://builds.freemyipod.org/emcore/target/ipodnano2g/emcore-ipodnano2g-r725.bin
21:01 < user890104> instead of installer-xxxxx.ubi
21:01 < user890104> i mean reboot it with menu+select and start over
21:02 < czar> ah ok
21:03 < czar> i try
21:03 < czar> the same error
21:03 < czar> also with bin
21:04 < czar> maybe is a problem of pyusb ??
21:04 < czar> i'm using this https://launchpad.net/~gekkio/+archive/pyusb
21:08 < czar> nothing....
21:09 < user890104> Farthen: can you have a look at the python error above?
21:09 < Farthen> user890104: sure, which one?
21:09 < Farthen> http://pastebin.com/g3A2zHSS ?
21:09 < user890104> http://pastebin.com/g3A2zHSS
21:09 < Farthen> ok
21:09 < user890104> yep
21:10 < Farthen> this is a weird one
21:11 < user890104> yeah, that's why i asked you :)
21:12 < czar> :O
21:12 < Farthen> czar: did you try replugging the device?
21:12 < czar> yes
21:12 < czar> i try now
21:12 < czar> ops
21:13 < czar> hold switch always turn on?
21:14 < czar> if i replugging it, it doesn't in lusb list
21:14 < czar> isn't*
21:14 < czar> ops
21:14 < user890104> the hold switch doesn't matter once you enter recovery mode
21:16  * [7] is back
21:16 < user890104> emcoreldr.py upload 0x09000000 installer-ipodnano2g-*.ubi && emcoreldr.py execute 0x09000000
21:16 < user890104> this is the correct command
21:16 < user890104> according to the irc logs
21:17 < user890104> czar: enter recovery mode, then use the command above
21:17 < czar> ok
21:19 < [7]> user890104: you have a customized installer for 0x09000000?
21:19 < user890104> no, i found some logs where you told me to launch it like this
21:20 < czar> this is a weird one...
21:20 < czar> I no longer get into dfu mode
21:22 < [7]> user890104: I think that was for a custom build... they usually aren't position-independent
21:23 < [7]> I think our best bet is to chainload another loader
21:23 < [7]> take a decrypted version of the loader and upload it to 0x22000000, and then launch an installer from there
21:26 < czar> so, the same command but at 0x22000000 pointer?
21:27 < czar> i think to try these adives tomorrow (also because I no longer get into dfu mode)
21:27 < czar> advices*
21:28 < czar> however thank you for the great help :)
21:29 < czar> maybe pass here tomorrow again
21:29 < czar> good evening!
21:30 < [7]> czar: so the ipod still reboots when pressing menu+select, but doesn't get into dfu mode when pressing left+play?
21:30 < czar> exactly...
21:30 < [7]> damn
21:31 < [7]> no idea why it would suddenly start doing that
21:31 < [7]> it's not like we would have written anything to persistent storage..
21:31 < [7]> except maybe the bootloader itself
21:31 < user890104> it happened for me, too
21:31 < user890104> and i restored with itunes
21:34 < czar> nothing..
21:34 < czar> i go to bed...is better
21:35 < czar> bye!
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21:43 < user890104> [7]: if i launch the installer on nano 2g like this: nor dfu->emcoreldr->emcoreldr @ 0x22000000->installer.ubi, appleos.bin doesn't seem to be created in /.boot
21:44 < [7]> that's the last thing i'd care about in this situation
21:44 < [7]> as long as you have a working emcoreldr after that, you can just fire up a regular installer to clean things out
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