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06:24 < riotousdefect> Hi, is anybody awake?
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06:41  * [Saint] immensely dislikes people that wait all of 4 minutes before deciding to leave.
06:41 < [Saint]> All the while never actually asking anything that anyone will bother responding to.
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16:38 < jesse_> does anyone know how to put rockbox on ipod 6th g 80gb?
16:38 < jesse_> Windows
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17:55 < [7]> wow, almost 6 minutes
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21:09 < Dilzo> Hey, i just tried to run ipoddfy.py to install emcore on my classic and im getting a syntax error. Is there something i need to do which isnt mentioned in the install instructions?
21:11 < Dilzo> Nevermind, needed to use python2
21:13 < [7]> hm, apparently we missed that one
21:13 < [7]> the newer python scripts are supposed to work with python3 as well
21:13 < [7]> your best bet for ipoddfu.py is probably 2.7
21:20 < Dilzo> im running arch linux and i have both for compatabilitys sake
21:20 < Dilzo> I might edit the wiki to point out how to avoid what i did
21:21 < [7]> what exactly is the problem with it?
21:22 < [7]> the ipoddfu script isn't terribly complex
21:22 < [7]> we might as well fix the root cause :)
21:24 < Dilzo> if i copy paste the command then it invokes python 3 to run it. At line 29 it hits a syntax error. I dont know enough about python scripting to identify what is wrong but.
21:25 < Dilzo> so i just changed the command so it would run the script in python2 and it was smooth sailing
21:40 < [7]> was the error in ipoddfu.py or libipoddfu.py?
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21:41 < riotousdefect> Is there anybody in here?
21:42 < riotousdefect> I made a quite idiotic mistake with my iPod and I'm not sure what to do with it now...or if I can do anything with it anymore :/
21:44 < Dilzo> it was in ipoddfu
21:47 < [7]> riotousdefect: first of all, which ipod model?
21:47 < riotousdefect> It's a 6G Classic
21:47 < [7]> what's going on with it? what did you do?
21:48 < riotousdefect> Well...I installed Rockbox on it to begin with
21:48 < riotousdefect> and I decided about two weeks later that I wanted it off....so I was being stupid and without thinking used the "reformat partition" option in EmCore
21:49 < riotousdefect> Now there's no Apple firmware on it, I can't use Rockbox, my computer won't detect it, I can't get it into DFU...etc. All that comes up is the EmCore boot menu, and when I click Rockbox, it says "rockbox.ipod not found!"
21:49 < [7]> you must be doing something wrong
21:50 < [7]> you should be able to enter DFU, and let itunes do its job from that point on
21:50 < riotousdefect> No, it has no Apple firmware or ANYTHING. The apple logo doesn't even come up.
21:52 < riotousdefect> I tried reinstalling Rockbox on it last night, but I couldn't do anything without getting it into DFU
21:52 < [7]> itunes is able to do a bare metal restore on the classics
21:53 < [7]> just connect it to a pc running itunes, make sure the hold switch is unlocked, and press and hold menu+select for about 12 seconds
21:54 < riotousdefect> iTunes came up and says "Waiting for iPod..."
21:54 < riotousdefect> but that's it.
21:54 < [7]> so it does realize that the ipod was connected?
21:54 < riotousdefect> Yeah, I think so.
21:54 < [7]> or did you manually tell it to restore it?
21:54 < riotousdefect> But I can't do anything. Just the window that says "Waiting for iPod..." is up
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21:54 < riotousdefect> I can screenshot if you want
21:55 < [7]> the restore wizard should usually come up automatically after holding menu+select for 12 seconds
21:55 < riotousdefect> It doesn't. Just says "Waiting for iPod"
21:55 < [7]> did you do anything with itunes, except for just starting it?
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21:56 < riotousdefect> No.
21:56 < riotousdefect> Well, I'm listening to a CD
21:56 < riotousdefect> have been for about an hour
21:56 < [7]> yeah, but you didn't manually tell it that you're trying to do something with the ipod?
21:56 < riotousdefect> I just got a dialogue window that says "The iPod Update server could not be contacted. The server doesn't support this version of iTunes.
21:57 < riotousdefect> No, I'm not sure what you mean.
21:57 < [7]> hm, that message doesn't really sound good
21:57 < [7]> you might need to update itunes first in this case
21:57 < [7]> what is the ipod doing now?
21:57 < riotousdefect> Hmm. I'll do that
21:57 < [7]> just black screen?
21:57 < riotousdefect> Yep
21:58 < riotousdefect> Just try to update iTunes and see if it does anything?
21:58 < [7]> does it show up in the device manager?
21:58 < riotousdefect> Haven't checked, but it doesn't come up in Computer
21:58 < [7]> yeah, that's to be expected
21:58 < [7]> it won't connect as a mass storage device
21:59 < riotousdefect> Okay, let me check Device Manager
22:00 < riotousdefect> Where in Device Manager would it show up if it were to?
22:02 < [7]> hm, either as an apple <something>, or possibly in the USB controllers category
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22:02 < riotousdefect> Apple Mobile Device Driver USB?
22:03 < riotousdefect> ***Device USB Driver
22:03 < [7]> where is that?
22:03 < riotousdefect> Under USB Controllers
22:04 < [7]> can you double-click it, and go to the last tab (IIRC) and dell me the device instance ID?
22:04 < [7]> especially the PID_xxxx& part
22:06 < riotousdefect> Just a sec
22:06 < riotousdefect> USB\VID_05AC&PID_1223\87020000000001
22:07 < [7]> that's the DFU device
22:07 < [7]> so that part has worked fine
22:07 < [7]> now it's itunes' job to upload a WTF, and then write a new firmware to it
22:08 < [7]> that stuff needs to be fetched from apple's update server, so that's probably what itunes was complaining about
22:09 < riotousdefect> Okay, so I just need to update iTunes?
22:09 < riotousdefect> and hold down the menu+select for 12 seconds again?
22:11 < riotousdefect> I've been so stressed out over this. I haven't had my iPod Classic for about 3 months now. I've been using my old 8GB Nano. I even took this piece of shit to a computer shop and they couldn't fix it.
22:11 < riotousdefect> My friend was getting the work done for free since he works there...and they've been working on it for about 2 months.
22:13 < [7]> heh, apparently they don't know how these devices work :)
22:13 < riotousdefect> I'm so excited :D
22:13 < riotousdefect> Having 1,000 out of my 15,000 songs has pissed me off
22:13 < [7]> you probably don't need to touch the ipod again, just update itunes and it should work
22:13 < [7]> it's still in DFU mode
22:14 < riotousdefect> Okay. 
22:16 < riotousdefect> I'll let you know what it does after updates...I hate how long iTunes takes to update itself
22:18  * [7] doesn't like itunes either, for obvious reasons :)
22:19 < riotousdefect> Haha. I wish that there was some different program that worked like iTunes that would be good for iPod
22:19 < riotousdefect> I've tried everything
22:19 < riotousdefect> I wish Songbird was still supported and stuff. I loved it.
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22:34 < riotousdefect> Okay, the Waiting for iPod window came up again.
22:35 < riotousdefect> and the "device connected" sound played
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22:37 < riotousdefect> ...aaaand now it's recognizing, installing driver software, and restoring my iPod! Kudos!
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