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10:51 < Scaramush> Hi
10:51 < Scaramush> I have a nano 2g iPod. Now it's in DFU mode and I can't do something with them. I tried to install emcore on it (http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Troubleshooting) but I just saw a white screen, without any text. Is it possible to restore this device?
10:53 < user890104> hello Scaramush, can you reset it with menu+select while connected to a pc, and then tell me which USB IDs do you see on the PC side?
10:57 < Scaramush> New USB device found, idVendor=05ac, idProduct=1220 
10:58 < user890104> ok, that's bootrom dfu, which operating system are you using?
10:59 < Scaramush> debian linux
11:00 < user890104> great, did you check out our svn? (you'll need /tools and /emcore/trunk/tools)
11:00 < user890104> also python + pyusb 1.0.0+
11:01 < Scaramush> no, i didn't
11:01 < Scaramush> python and pyusb are installed
11:01 < user890104> well, how did you use the troubleshooting steps then? :)
11:02 < user890104> you'll need both folders, they contain all scripts you're going to use 
11:03 < Scaramush> i just downloaded neede files)
11:04 < Scaramush> *needed
11:04 < Scaramush> well, I allredy checked out svn
11:08 < user890104> ok, so you followed the guide, right? at which point you are unable to continue with the instructions?
11:10 < Scaramush> In first step in DFU (python ipoddfu.py emcoreldr-ipodnano2g.dfu) mode I didn't saw any text? just white screen
11:11 < Scaramush> but I tried to continue, and all steps from DFU mode are done
11:12 < user890104> did the USB ID change after the first command?
11:12 < Scaramush> when I try to Upload an emCORE installer I had an error
11:12 < Scaramush> I didn't checked
11:12 < user890104> can you repeat and check?
11:13 < user890104> enter only the first one and check what changed
11:13 < user890104> and can you provide additional information on how you got the ipod in this state?
11:14 < Scaramush> [18369.102346] usb 1-6: usbfs: process 10202 (python) did not claim interface 0 before use
11:14 < Scaramush> and white screen on iPod
11:16 < user890104> are there any errors from the python script? and which python version are you using?
11:16 < user890104> and what does lsusb say? is there any ipod?
11:17 < Scaramush> I tried to update it in iTunes and power failure happend
11:17 < Scaramush> python 2.6.7
11:18 < Scaramush> no errors from script
11:18 < user890104> so if you reboot it with menu+select, did you see an apple logo?
11:19 < Scaramush> no, blank screen
11:19 < Scaramush> lsusb - Bus 001 Device 006: ID 05ac:1220 Apple, Inc.
11:19 < user890104> this is after running the python command?
11:20 < Scaramush> yes
11:20 < user890104> can you unplug it now and replug it
11:20 < user890104> and check if the usb device is still showing in lsusb
11:20 < user890104> if it isn't, your ipod have locked up
11:21 < Scaramush> ther is no iPod in lsusb
11:21 < user890104> ok, i'll send you another emcoreldr-ipodnano2g.dfu then
11:21 < user890104> just a moment
11:24 < user890104> http://www.datafilehost.com/download-efde7c09.html
11:26 < Scaramush>  sudo python ipoddfu.py emcoreldr-ipodnano2g.dfu Connected to S5L8701 Bootrom DFU mode, USB version 1 Upload: ..... done
11:26 < user890104> what do you see on the screen of the ipod?
11:26 < Scaramush> nothing changed
11:27 < Scaramush> white screen
11:27 < user890104> can you reset it again, turn the hold switch ON and repeat that?
11:28 < user890104> you should see: Bus 001 Device 005: ID ffff:e112
11:28 < user890104> something like that in lsusb
11:28 < Scaramush> white screen again
11:28 < Scaramush> Bus 001 Device 013: ID ffff:e112
11:28 < Scaramush> it's in lsusb
11:29 < user890104> ok, so it worked
11:30 < user890104> let me test the next commands on my ipod first
11:30 < Scaramush> ok
11:31 < user890104> can you confirm that after unplugging/replugging the ipod while it's in this state, it still shows in lsusb?
11:33 < Scaramush> yes, it is
11:33 < user890104> ok
11:49 < user890104> http://www.datafilehost.com/download-37a89918.html
11:49 < user890104> download this file
11:49 < user890104> make sure your ipod's HOLD switch is still ON
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11:49 < user890104> and run the following commands:
11:50 < user890104> python emcoreldr.py upload 0x22000000 emcoreldr-ipodnano2g.bin
11:50 < user890104> python emcoreldr.py execute 0x22000000 0x00000000
11:50 < user890104> then check again if the USB device is still there after replugging
11:53 < Scaramush> no, it didn't
11:53 < Scaramush> usb 1-6: device descriptor read/64, error -110
11:55 < nebuchadnezzar_> Hi! I have just installed emCore, but run into trouble when loading the rockbox .zip file to the device. Windows shows the USB device, I can open it to view the root folder, but I cannot do anything on the device, not copy files and not create folders. I get a strange windows message "This is no longer located in <%3 NULL:OpText>....". Any ideas?
11:55 < nebuchadnezzar_> Correction: the ".rockbox" folder, not the zip file...
11:56 < user890104> nebuchadnezzar_: please ask at #rockbox as this seems to be a rockbox-related issue and not emcore-related one
11:57 < nebuchadnezzar_> OK, but is it not emCore that provides the USB device?
11:58 < user890104> nebuchadnezzar_: after you install emcore, you need to use the Rockbox fallback image in order to transfer the Rockbox installation on your hard disk
11:58 < nebuchadnezzar_> Ah - OK. I'll try at #rockbox. Thanx!
11:59 < user890104> Scaramush: i would suggest waiting for someone else who might have other suggestions, because your ipod is acting really weird
11:59 < user890104> since it gets to DFU, there's a chance to recover it
12:00 < Scaramush> ( Ok, thanks anyway
12:00 < user890104> it basicly means that the data on the NOR flash is corrupted and the bootloader is unable to load
12:00 < user890104> that's why you're getting blank screen
12:00 < user890104> reflashing the NOR memory would fix it, but i'm not sure how
12:01 < Scaramush> but how to reflash it?
12:01 < Scaramush> iTunes now didn't want to work with it
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12:05 < user890104> yes, itunes does not support DFU on nano 2g
12:06 < user890104> that's why we made ipoddfu.py
12:06 < Scaramush> well, I try again all that commands
12:06 < Scaramush> and now have Bus 001 Device 024: ID 05ac:1220 Apple, Inc. in lsusb
12:06 < user890104> there is a way, but since i'm not completely sure that it would work, i suggest waiting for someone else
12:07 < user890104> 1220 is DFU, so this means that the first command didn't run successfully
12:07 < user890104> you need to turn on the hold switch before running it
12:07 < Scaramush> after first command was ffff:e112
12:08 < Scaramush> hold is on
12:09 < user890104> ok, that's to be expected
12:09 < Scaramush> ID has chanched  to 1220 after python emcoreldr.py execute 0x22000000 0x00000000
12:09 < user890104> did you leave the hold switch turned on?
12:09 < Scaramush> yes
12:09 < user890104> then something weird is happening
12:10 < user890104> it should not change after this command
12:10 < user890104> it is meant to just relocate our code in the memory
12:10 < user890104> it is expected to stay at ffff:e112
12:10 < user890104> what is the command before this?
12:11 < Scaramush> sudo python emcoreldr.py upload 0x22000000 emcoreldr-ipodnano2g.bin
12:13 < user890104> yeah, that's correct but your ipod does not respond as expected
12:13 < Scaramush> http://goo.gl/CMjUu
12:13 < Scaramush> it's dmesg
12:15 < user890104> ah, the packet size
12:15 < user890104> can you edit emcoreldr.py
12:16 < user890104> actually libemcoreldr.py
12:16 < Scaramush> yes, what i have to change?
12:16 < user890104> at line 45 & 46
12:17 < user890104>             self.maxin = 528;
12:17 < user890104>             self.maxout = 528
12:17 < user890104> change these to 64 for example
12:17 < user890104> restart the ipod and re-run
12:21 < Scaramush> http://goo.gl/1v07D
12:22 < user890104> what commands did you enter?
12:22 < Scaramush>  sudo python ipoddfu.py emcoreldr-ipodnano2g.dfu
12:22 < Scaramush> sudo python emcoreldr.py upload 0x22000000 emcoreldr-ipodnano2g.bin
12:23 < user890104> and you had the hold switch turned on all the time?
12:23 < Scaramush> sudo python emcoreldr.py execute 0x22000000 0x00000000
12:23 < Scaramush> yes
12:24 < user890104> so after the last command it is in DFU again?
12:24 < Scaramush> yes
12:24 < user890104> weird, the same binary works for me
12:25 < user890104> you should wait for Michael Sparmann (TheSeven or [7]) to join, he is the main developer of emCORE and knows a lot about these devices
12:26 < Scaramush> ok, thanks
12:26 < user890104> i haven't reached such stage so far, the method that's described on the page always helped me
12:26 < user890104> if something fails at flashing
12:27 < user890104> you can write on the mailing list that you tried running emcore loader from dfu, and what happens
12:27 < user890104> so if anyone else has an idea, they could point you in the right direction
12:28 < Scaramush> I did it before write to irc
12:28 < Scaramush> Michael Sparmann answered "First we will have to diagnose what's really going on with it, and then think of a way to fix it. As this requires a lot of interaction with you, it will probably be easiest to discuss this matter on IRC."
12:30 < Scaramush> if I run this iPod for dead and than try again, may something changed?
12:32 < user890104> well, the instructions i gave you are basicly what he would try first
12:33 < user890104> so you can inform him that this way doesn't work as expected
12:33 < user890104> about the battery, i really don't know if it would help
12:34 < Scaramush> ok
12:34 < Scaramush> thanks
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19:28 < MyKE_> Is this where I type questions?
19:31 < MyKE_> I am having trouble with my ipod classic 80 gig and EmCORE I keep getting an errror unidentified instruction at 08000010 for the newest em core build.
19:32 < MyKE_> I may have messaged a few people because I am unsire how to use irc so if that is not how you use irc sorry for messageing you 
19:41 < user890104> MyKE_: writing here in the channel is enough, if anyone can answer you, they would
19:41 < user890104> about the error: which rockbox version and which emcore version are you using
19:41 < user890104> and when do you get this error?
19:43 < MyKE_> I tried the newest version of of the installer-ipodclassic.ubi file and once I load the usm boot and copy the file to it I get the error that I posed above
19:43 < MyKE_> I havent even gotten to rockbox yet
19:47 < user890104> ok, what's the version of the installer, and where did you downloaded it from?
19:48 < MyKE_> the instaler is installer-ipodclassic-r708-20110424 and I got it from the EmCORE releases page on free my ipod .org
19:51 < user890104> can you redownload it and try again?
19:55 < MyKE_> I re downloaded the file and now it wont get past booting... 
19:56 < MyKE_> and no error yet
20:01 < MyKE_> its still hasnt passed the booting... 
20:06 < user890104> what does it show on the screen?
20:06 < user890104> you could try a previous release
20:10 < MyKE_> the screen says loading ubi file... rearrainging files... booting... 
20:13 < user890104> and stays like that?
20:13 < MyKE_> yes it dosnt change
20:14 < user890104> ok so the ubi file is somehow corrupted when downloading
20:14 < user890104> open this page: http://files.freemyipod.org/releases/20110424/
20:14 < user890104> then right-click 	installer-ipodclassic-r708-20110424.ubi
20:14 < user890104> and select Save link as/Save target as
20:14 < user890104> then retry with the newly downloaded file
20:16 < MyKE_> I tried with the installer file from the link you sent and I got undefined instruction error 080000032 
20:18 < user890104> http://files.freemyipod.org/releases/20110406/installer-ipodclassic-r692-20110406.ubi
20:18 < user890104> try this one
20:20 < MyKE_> so far the file from that last link you sent is just sitting on the screen that says loading ubi rearrainging files and booting 
20:21 < user890104> reset it with menu+select and start over with the last file i gave you
20:23 < MyKE_> I recieved the undefined instruction error 
20:25 < user890104> well, something's wrong then
20:25 < user890104> i'll send you the file zipped
20:26 < user890104> http://www.datafilehost.com/download-2e706f51.html
20:27 < user890104> download this, extract the file and use it for the installation
20:27 < user890104> if this doesn't work, i don't have any other ideas about what's happening
20:30 < MyKE_> Thank you very much for your help I appreciate it I am going to try it on my other computer and beyond that it is a fun itunes alternative 
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