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13:46 < xScaV> Hi// need help
13:46 < xScaV> My iPod nano 2g not respond
13:49 < xScaV> when i restore my iPod from itunes, i reset it, when iLoder uninstallation were not complete.
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13:53 < ScaV> anyone here?
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14:24 < ScaV> reset, disk mode.. nothing works//
15:01 < user890104> ScaV: here is how to complete the uninstallation: http://theseven.freemyipod.org/iloader/uninstallation.php
15:01 < user890104> if you're using an older version, it is a bit more complicated
15:01 < user890104> this is for 0.2.x
15:01 < ScaV> itunes can't recognizi ipod
15:02 < ScaV> recognize*
15:03 < ScaV> any other methods?
15:03 < user890104> you need to enter dick mode first
15:03 < ScaV> how? can't
15:04 < user890104> what do you see on the ipod's screen?
15:04 < ScaV> nothing
15:04 < user890104> is the backlight on?
15:04 < ScaV> no
15:05 < user890104> and how do you know that it's on?
15:05 < user890104> try charging it first
15:06 < ScaV> it charged
15:06 < ScaV> but i can's see it
15:06 < ScaV> but i know, that it charged
15:07 < ScaV> there is Apple Mobile Device USB driver in device manager
15:07 < ScaV> winXP
15:07 < ScaV> what it means?
15:09 < user890104> ah, this is DFU
15:09 < ScaV> is it good?
15:10 < user890104> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Troubleshooting#DFU_Mode
15:10 < user890104> by carefully following these instructions
15:10 < user890104> you can recover it
15:11 < ScaV> thanks) I will try
15:20 < ScaV> , turn your iPod's HOLD switch on
15:20 < user890104> if there's something different on the screen than the text in this article, please let me know
15:20 < ScaV> i need lock it?
15:20 < user890104> yeah, exactly
15:20 < ScaV> thx) i'm bad at english
15:20 < user890104> me too :)
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15:32 < ScaV> syntax error)
15:32 < ScaV> line 29
15:35 < ScaV> i have python 3.2.2
15:35 < user890104> ah, it's not tested with this
15:35 < user890104> can you try 2.6/2.7
15:35 < user890104> anything 2.x should work
15:36 < user890104> mine is Python 2.7.1 and works fine
15:44 < ScaV> is 3.x has new syntax?
15:45 < TheSeven> does the device name explicitly mention dfu?
15:45 < TheSeven> what's the vendor/product id?
15:46 < TheSeven> ScaV: or change that line to print("...")
15:47 < TheSeven> python 3.x needs the parentheses
15:47 < ScaV> Apple reco+
15:47 < ScaV> very (DFU) USB driver
15:48 < ScaV> Apple, Inc.
15:48 < TheSeven> hm, i wonder how you managed to break it that badly :)
15:48 < ScaV> ) 
15:48 < ScaV> dntknw
15:49 < ScaV> hm
15:50 < ScaV> i need usb.core module
15:55 < TheSeven> pyusb >=1.0.0a0
15:55 < TheSeven> and you'll need to replace apple's driver with libusb
15:56 < TheSeven> or hook a libusb filter onto it
15:57 < ScaV> and you'll need to replace apple's driver with libusb??
15:57 < ScaV> i have windows
15:59 < TheSeven> either that or hook a filter driver to it
16:00 < ScaV> what it means?
16:00 < ScaV> i need to install libusb?
16:00 < TheSeven> you can do that with libusb's filter wizard
16:02 < ScaV> TheSeven: i need select ipod device in wizard/ yea?
16:03 < TheSeven> yes
16:05 < ScaV> upload done)
16:06 < ScaV> whats next?
16:06 < ScaV> backlight is on, and there is text on a display
16:07 < ScaV> need i update an emCORE binary?
16:07 < ScaV> or i can to recover with iTunes?
16:08 < TheSeven> you'll need to flash a working bootloader first
16:08 < TheSeven> either emcore or (if emcore doesn't work on your lcd) iloader
16:10 < ScaV> emcore work on my lcd
16:12 < ScaV> but i dont know what's next...
16:12 < TheSeven> so what's the current state?
16:13 < ScaV> upload done
16:13 < TheSeven> of what?
16:14 < ScaV> of updating of emcore in DFU mode
16:14 < ScaV> on my lcd:
16:14 < TheSeven> so you uploaded and ran an installer? or what did you do?
16:14 < ScaV> eMcore loader v .....
16:15 < ScaV> Switch hold on....
16:15 < ScaV> Entered recovery mode
16:15 < ScaV> Connect via USB
16:15 < TheSeven> ok
16:15 < TheSeven> well that's the first step
16:15 < TheSeven> now upload an installer through that one
16:16 < TheSeven> just take the most recent emcore installer and run it using emcoreldr.py (should be described on the troubleshooting page as well)
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16:16 < ScaV> http://builds.freemyipod.org/
16:16 < ScaV> ???
16:16 < ScaV> this?
16:16 < TheSeven> i'd use http://files.freemyipod.org/releases/20110424/installer-ipodnano2g-r708-20110424.ubi
16:17 < ScaV> why not bin?
16:18 < TheSeven> it's the same
16:18 < TheSeven> .ubi is basically a .bin file that's intended to be run via umsboot
16:21 < ScaV> hm, i need emcoreldr.py
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16:22 < ScaV> oh, i find it
16:27 < ScaV> TheSeven: where is libmcoreldr module?
16:27 < TheSeven> should be in the same directory
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16:37 < ScaV> Could not find specified device (generation = 0)
16:37 < TheSeven> you'll probably need to install a libusb driver for the emcore loader recovery device
16:42 < ScaV> can't find in list
16:42 < TheSeven> you'll have to install a real driver for that one, not just a filter (because there is no pre-existing driver to hook onto)
16:48 < ScaV> complete
16:49 < ScaV> wts nxt?
16:50 < ScaV> hm i press menu and play buttons at the same time, and nothing
16:52 < ScaV> TheSeven: //
16:53 < TheSeven> so it doesn't respond to the buttons being pressed?
16:53 < TheSeven> or do you mean that it runs the installation and then drops into dfu again?
16:54 < ScaV> no
16:55 < ScaV> scroll works
16:55 < ScaV> i can read
16:55 < ScaV> but if press at the same time menu and play - nothing
16:55 < ScaV> or i need disconnect from  PC?
16:56 < TheSeven> make sure to not press any other buttons accidentally
16:56 < TheSeven> on that small clickwheel you might be pressing one of the skip buttons by accident
16:56 < TheSeven> also press the buttons at exactly the same time - there once was a bug that required that, but i thought i had already fixed that one
16:57 < ScaV> on)
16:57 < ScaV> oh
16:58 < ScaV> i press it)
16:58 < ScaV> with my nails)
16:58 < ScaV> want i remove the firmware partition&)
16:58 < ScaV> ?
17:01 < TheSeven> no
17:01 < TheSeven> that would mean you'd need to do an additional restore later
17:01 < TheSeven> (assuming you want to get it back to the factory state)
17:02 < TheSeven> if you want to keep using emcore, you can safely choose yes
17:02 < ScaV> so
17:02 < ScaV> i have boot menu
17:03 < ScaV> i need back to iLoader+rockbox]
17:03 < ScaV> +apple firmware
17:03 < ScaV> wow!
17:03 < TheSeven> so you want to keep using our bootloader? in that case you can choose yes to reclaim some space
17:03 < ScaV> nice boot menu
17:04 < ScaV> hm
17:04 < ScaV> i clicked yes
17:04 < ScaV> reinstall&)
17:04 < ScaV> ?
17:05 < TheSeven> the bootloader and the apple firmware should be functional at this point
17:05 < TheSeven> for rockbox you'll just need to extract the zip file to the ipod
17:05 < ScaV> so, what i need to do?
17:07 < ScaV> copy appleos.bn to disk?
17:07 < TheSeven> making a backup of that file can't hurt but isn't critical
17:08 < ScaV> i need press YES at nstallation
17:08 < ScaV> need i reinstall emCore>
17:08 < ScaV> ?
17:08 < TheSeven> no
17:08 < TheSeven> you don't need the firmware partition if you're using emcore
17:08 < ScaV> ok
17:08 < TheSeven> the apple firmware was moved to appleos.bin by the installer
17:08 < ScaV> how to install apple firmware?
17:09 < ScaV> hhm]
17:09 < TheSeven> it should already be there
17:09 < TheSeven> including the uncapping patch
17:09 < TheSeven> those new installers do all of that automatically fo you
17:09 < ScaV> my /boot folder is emply)
17:10 < TheSeven> hm weird
17:10 < TheSeven> there should be a /.boot/appleos.bin
17:10 < ScaV> empty)))
17:12 < ScaV> so, at this moment i have an ipod with bootloader only, but it is a big progress!)
17:12 < TheSeven> but you did restore it using itunes before? the installer should have found a firmware in that case, weird
17:14 < TheSeven> anyway, you can just take the appleos.bin file from some other ipod and put it in the .boot directory
17:15 < ScaV> my ipod died when I was restored it by itunes, when iloader was installed
17:17 < TheSeven> hm, something must have gone awfully wrong if you ended up with both a corrupted bootloader and no firmware present...
17:17 < user890104> TheSeven: i also had a case where appleos.bin wasn't created
17:18 < TheSeven> yeah, but that shouldn't happen directly after a restore
17:18 < user890104> that's why i suggested once what we could use rockbox's way of booting OF from the firmware partition as a fallback method
17:18 < user890104> that*
17:20 < user890104> ScaV: if you have the emcore bootloader installed and just need an appleos.bin file, please let me know
17:20 < TheSeven> he already got a link from me :)
17:20 < user890104> ah, ok
17:21 < ScaV> rockbox works!
17:22 < ScaV> ipod alive!!!
17:22 < ScaV> yahooO!
17:22 < ScaV> ScaV: mhaha
17:22 < ScaV> ut diskmode not work)
17:22 < ScaV> onl from rockbox]
17:22 < ScaV> mb reinstall&)
17:22 < ScaV> ?
17:24 < TheSeven> how did you install rockbox if disk mode is broken?
17:24 < TheSeven> (which can very well be residual damage of whatever has failed previously)
17:25 < TheSeven> a full uninstall+reinstall cycle should fix both disk mode and the apple firmware being broken
17:28 < ScaV> hm
17:28 < ScaV> rockbox  was
17:29 < ScaV> and i cant format my disc
17:30 < TheSeven> heh, restoring without diskmode might be tricky :P
17:30 < ScaV> hmm
17:30 < ScaV> ok
17:30 < ScaV> how to restore to default?
17:30 < ScaV> i want install rockbox only
17:30 < ScaV> without other features
17:31 < TheSeven> well isn't that what you have right now?
17:31 < ScaV> now i have loader
17:31 < ScaV> but i want to restore full defaults
17:32 < ScaV> and then install what i need
17:32 < TheSeven> so you're currently stuck with rockbox working, but disk mode just hanging?
17:33 < ScaV> disk mode cannot run
17:33 < ScaV> and i cant format my ipod
17:33 < TheSeven> with an error message, or does it just hang?
17:33 < ScaV> errror
17:34 < TheSeven> what's the exact error message?
17:37 < ScaV> Loading disc mode failed
17:37 < ScaV> return to main
17:40 < TheSeven> how did you manage to install rockbox then?
17:41 < ScaV> copy folder
17:41 < ScaV> but
17:41 < ScaV> ooh
17:41 < ScaV> its bug
17:41 < ScaV> i dont know
17:41 < ScaV> how
17:41 < ScaV> bot rockbox was runned
17:41 < ScaV> but there is no rockbox on a disk
17:41 < TheSeven> ah, so you didn't do that yet
17:42 < TheSeven> you might try to boot rockbox once again and then restore using itunes?
17:42 < TheSeven> no idea if itunes can deal with rockbox though :)
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17:50 < ScaV> let's try it
17:51 < ScaV> hm
17:51 < ScaV> may be try from original apple firmware?
17:51 < ScaV> give me adress again
17:51 < ScaV> pls
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