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23:29 < Maver> hi guys
23:30 < Maver> anyone here awake?
23:30 < Maver> i was hoping to get a quick question answered
23:32 < [Saint_AndChat]> Better ask it then ;)
23:32 < Maver> ah ok
23:32 < Maver> i've got an ipod classic, 6G first rev, 
23:32 < Maver> trying to fallow the emcore instructions
23:33 < Maver> so i could then load rockbox
23:33 < Maver> i have it plugged into windows and i hold menu and the play buttion while it is plugged into the computer 
23:33 < Maver> for over 10 seconds but nothing happens
23:33 < Maver> just keeps showing me it's connected
23:34 < [Saint_AndChat]> It's menu+select.
23:34 < Maver> which is the select buttion
23:34 < Maver> i'm new to ipods
23:34 < [Saint_AndChat]> The center.
23:34 < Maver> oh geez
23:34 < Maver> i feel like an idiot
23:37 < Maver> i'm on 7, it didn't ask me for a driver just said couln't install it, take it i go into the device manager and place the drivers by hand
23:37 < [7]> do you have itunes on that pc?
23:39 < Maver> no i don't
23:39 < Maver> thats why i went the manual driver route
23:39 < [7]> ok, in that case you'll need to place it by hand
23:39 < [7]> you didn't mention which route you were using :)
23:40 < [7]> and i've seen some cases where windows messed up the driver installation even though itunes was installed, so i wanted to rule that out
23:40 < Maver> yeah, just gave it the inf file now says "ipod classic/nano 3g bootrom DFU" the parameter is incorrect
23:41 < [7]> Farthen: is the the typical behavior of non-testsigning-enabled win7 systems?
23:41 < [7]> that*
23:42 < Maver> i said to install anyway even though it wasn't a signed driver
23:42 < Maver> is there another setting i need to change the on the system
23:42 < Maver> i've got UAC turned off
23:42 < [7]> i've seen several reports of that message, but it doesn't happen on my (testsigning-enabled) win7 system
23:43 < Maver> i enabled testsigning still getting the parameter problem
23:44 < Maver> do i need to reboot
23:44 < [7]> hm, actually winusb (in contrast to libusb) shouldn't need testsigning anyway
23:45 < Maver> yeah
23:46 < Maver> i guess i go the itunes route?
23:46 < Maver> can this firmware boot both iso and the rockbox?
23:46 < Maver> or is it just the rockbox / linux that's bootable
23:47 < [Saint_AndChat]> Linux isn't bootable...
23:47 < [Saint_AndChat]> And Rockbox isn't Linux.
23:47 < Maver> oh thought there was a bit ipod linux scene
23:47 < Maver> oh i know rockbox isn't
23:47 < [7]> ipodlinux has been dead for years
23:47 < [Saint_AndChat]> IPod Linux is dead.
23:47 < Maver> oh
23:47 < [Saint_AndChat]> Oh, snap.
23:48 < Maver> i remeber having it back on my old 2G ipod lol
23:48  * [7] just double-checked the driver package and can't see anything being wrong with it
23:48 < Farthen> [7]: on 32 bit systems that is, yes
23:48 < Maver> ah i'm 64 bit
23:48 < Maver> so i guess i'll go the itunes route
23:48 < Maver> use that driver insted
23:48 < [7]> Farthen: 32bit?
23:48 < Farthen> oh, weird. i thought that message would only appear on 32 bit systems
23:48 < [7]> Maver: you actually don't need itunes, you just need its driver
23:49 < Maver> is there a way to extract the driver from the itunes install
23:50 < Maver> i mean i thought the 2 pathways were the driver by hand that i tried, or the itunes route
23:50  * [7] fails to reproduce that damn issue
23:50 < [7]> yeah, you just need to grab a couple of files from the itunes installation for our tool to work
23:50 < [7]> no need to install that whole beast
23:50  * Maver thinks yep it's complicated
23:51 < Maver> how do i extract a exe file?
23:51 < [7]> hm, i don't know if the itunes installer can be extracted
23:51 < Maver> all i see are a bunch of MSI files in it
23:51 < [7]> but maybe someone is kind enough to just send you the required files
23:51 < Maver> that would be cool
23:52 < Maver> appleapplicationsupport
23:52 < Maver> AplleMobileDeviceSupport64
23:52 < Maver> Bonjour64
23:52 < Maver> SetupAdmin
23:52 < [7]> AppleMobileDeviceSupport64 sounds good
23:52 < Maver> of course the usuals like apple software updates and itunes and quick time
23:53 < Maver> that's what i was thinking
23:53 < [7]> is that a separate msi file?
23:53 < Maver> yes all of them are
23:53 < [7]> maybe you can just install the driver that way :)
23:53 < Maver> worth a shot
23:53 < Maver> really wouldn't want to bother with itunes
23:53 < Maver> but i don't think i got my question answered
23:53 < [7]> or try to extract the msi and just point windows to the extracted driver files, if you don't want to install the remaining clutter
23:53 < Maver> of if this emucore can do ISO and rockbox?
23:53 < [7]> ISO?
23:54 < Maver> iOS
23:54 < [7]> technically this isn't ios
23:55 < [7]> and no, there's no dualboot solution yet
23:55 < Maver> hmm
23:55 < Maver> there also doesn't seem to be a ipod manager compatable with this ipod ether
23:55 < Maver> yami and foola both seem to fail at the new update
23:56 < [7]> what? they did update the classic firmware?
23:56 < [7]> i thought apple had completely dropped support for that one
23:56 < Maver> well both yami and foola say "we can't detect what firmware this is on, probably an update from itunes, this may not work, would you like to report bugs?"
23:57 < [7]> did that ipod ever connect to itunes before you tried floola?
23:57 < [7]> otherwise it might not be fully initialized yet
23:57 < [7]> and yamipod is essentially an old floola version
23:58 < [7]> you might want to try sharepod, i think that one is less picky
23:58 < Maver> yeah it was my grandpas ipod
23:58 < Maver> it was acutally mac formated
23:58 < Maver> so i had to windows format it
23:58 < [7]> ah, and you didn't do that with itunes?
23:58 < [7]> in that case you killed the database and floola has no way of figuring out what this device is
23:59 < [7]> getting that ipod in touch with itunes once might help
23:59 < [Saint_AndChat]> I'd do a full restore.
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