[04:20:15] *** Joins: [Saint] (~quassel@rockbox/user/saint) [06:15:02] *** Quits: [7] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) (Disconnected by services) [06:15:09] *** Joins: TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) [08:11:12] *** Quits: TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) (Disconnected by services) [08:11:20] *** Joins: [7] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) [13:54:10] *** Quits: [7] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) (Disconnected by services) [13:54:17] *** Joins: TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) [14:35:25] *** Quits: ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) (*.net *.split) [14:44:57] *** Joins: ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) [14:44:57] *** hitchcock.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ [16:45:19] *** Joins: Ceriously (53883d9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.136.61.154) [16:45:39] Hey all [16:46:09] <[Saint]> Hiiiiiiiii Doctor Nick! [16:47:18] Having some serious issues with my 6th gen ipod classic [16:47:55] <[Saint]> Well, until psychic.rock is finally completed, you'll have to tell me about them first. [16:49:02] So it all started when I went to connect to my computer it would ask me to format my pod. I've always had it connected to a PC not a Mac, I put off the formatting until I had a better knowledge of formating. Then I got a partition error plug it in and fix it [16:49:15] uh.... 5th gen then? haha [16:50:51] <[Saint]> The model number will tell you. If you managed to get emCORE on there, it's definitely not a 5th Gen (Video). [16:51:12] Got into the root menu and hit reformat data partition, now I can't get past the root menu [16:51:13] ah [16:51:23] <-----Newb [16:51:25] sry [16:52:04] <[Saint]> It can't get past the root menu, because everything it expects to be on the disk is...well, not there. [16:52:35] <[Saint]> extracting the Rockbox archive back to the disk should "just work". [16:53:55] <[Saint]> There's no need to use the archive linked from the installation, you can grab a new one from http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipod6g.zip [16:54:18] I can't get the pod to pull up on the comp because it says it doesn't have a driver. [16:54:27] comes up as emcore debugger on the comp [16:54:40] umsboot works [16:54:49] * user890104 thinks that it would be a good idea to insert the link to rockbox's latest build in the emcore install page [16:55:10] <[Saint]> Did you by any chance start the emCORE colnsole? [16:55:30] <[Saint]> iiuc, it shouldn't be seen as emcore debugger unless that happened. [16:55:34] Haven't messed with that [16:56:06] I tried it once then menu+selected back to the root menu [16:56:15] sounds like I started it lol [16:56:18] <[Saint]> user890104: Hmmmm...what provides USB in this case? [16:56:46] <[Saint]> Sounds like installation was never finished (fallback image only), and the drive was formatted from there. [16:57:17] <[Saint]> How do we mount in this instance? [17:00:36] [Saint]: if you are in the main menu, you are in fact running emcore, which provides the debugger usb device [17:01:14] selecting "emcore console" simply exits the bootmenu application [17:01:58] the fallback image should work better for usb transfers, had the exact same issue this morning [17:02:25] the more recent rb build i have didn't mount properly/at all, but the fallback one worked fine [17:02:43] <[Saint]> Ah! I derped. In my fantasy world, the fallback image exists on disk. [17:02:56] <[Saint]> (on a user accessible part of the disk) [17:03:04] the fallback one is on the NOR flash :) [17:03:21] <[Saint]> Yeah, I figured just now it didn't get wiped out. [17:03:24] that's why it's called fallback - in case you totally screw up the disk/partitioning/filesystem [17:03:50] seems to be working fine for file transfers, unlike the recent rockbox builds [17:04:04] When I go to run rockbox from root menu, it says "loading rockbox. ipod failed! trying fallback image" goes to white screen and saying undefined instruction at 080632A8 [17:04:20] ah, so there's some issue with your fallback img [17:04:36] it gets launched if there's no main rockbox.ipod file [17:04:42] <[Saint]> Or, the code to get there. [17:04:56] <[Saint]> try booting it directly from the Tools - Boot Fallback Image menu [17:05:04] k sec [17:05:09] <[Saint]> if that fails, things get slightly more interesting. [17:05:58] Tools-run rockbock fallback image gives me same thing undefined instruction [17:05:59] my fallback image is d8fd988M-120222, i can upload it somewhere if i magane to extract it [17:07:56] I tried the umsboot and putting the .ubi files on there but that gets me back to where I started. [17:08:26] I have all my music backed up on here so i'm not worried about wiping it clean [17:19:57] *** Quits: Ceriously (53883d9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.136.61.154) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:21:42] *** Joins: Ceriously (53883d9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.136.61.154) [17:21:51] back sry got timed out [17:25:01] I had a buddy of mine go through and try to fix it and he said he cleared rockbox config and database in the boot menu to see if that would work [17:25:06] dunno if that makes a difference [17:31:58] any way to have the timeout disconnection longer so i don't disconnect? [17:36:33] Any way to just have it default to iTunes so I can just re-install box completely? Been looking everywhere can't seem to find anything [17:36:44] <[Saint]> Using a dedicated client instead of the shitty freenode webclient is probably a good start. [17:36:47] Might save some hasstle [17:37:15] <[Saint]> And, no, there's no way to "default to iTunes". [17:37:16] I'm new to this [17:37:23] <[Saint]> You removed the Apple OS. [17:37:34] I'm going to kill him [17:37:42] <[Saint]> There's no dual-boot, if you want to recover, you'll need to restore your iPod. [17:38:01] [Saint]: it's visible as emcore debugger as soon as emcore is running, so also during the boot menu [17:38:07] That's what I meant [17:38:52] <[Saint]> In that case: Tools - Uninstall emCORE; restore with iTunes. [17:39:15] <[Saint]> that'll get you back to where you started sans data. [17:39:29] Uninstall emCORE isn't an option in the tools boot menu [17:39:44] [Saint]: that only exists on the nano2g [17:39:52] for the classic you just uninstall through dfu with itunes [17:40:02] but you might want to try running a known good rockbox build through umsboot [17:40:18] just strip off the first 8 bytes of rockbox.ipod and then put that as rockbox.ubi into the umsboot drive [17:40:27] that should work if the fallback image is corrupted [17:40:39] i still wonder how that could happen in the first place though [17:41:49] So i'm new at this sry, do I have to change the name to .ubi from .ipod or just put it in there? [17:42:18] you have to change the file name extension from .ipod to .ubi and strip off the first 8 bytes [18:09:27] I'm not sure how to strip off the first 8 bytes. [18:32:09] on linux: dd if=file.ipod of=file.ubi bs=8 skip=1 [18:35:09] *** Quits: Ceriously (53883d9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.136.61.154) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:50:30] *** Joins: benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) [20:08:25] *** Joins: user890104 (Venci@195.189.80.96) [21:00:00] *** Joins: user890104 (Venci@195.189.80.95) [21:00:00] -hitchcock.freenode.net- [freenode-info] if you're at a conference and other people are having trouble connecting, please mention it to staff: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp [21:05:24] *** Joins: liar (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) [22:05:26] *** Joins: Ceriously (53883d9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.136.61.154) [22:09:42] Hey, so earlier you said to change the rockbox.ipod file from .ipod to .ubi and strip the 8 bytes from the beginning of the file. I fell asleep and I still have no clue how to strip bytes from files. Thanks for you continued help. [22:13:49] your** [22:25:54] on linux: dd if=file.ipod of=file.ubi bs=8 skip=1 [22:26:15] I'm on windows [22:26:44] use a hex editor such as hxd or let someone from our team do it for you and send you the modified file [22:27:34] but if your fallback image is broken you might want to reinstall emcore anyway (works like an update) [22:27:49] i.e. just drop the installer ubi into the umsboot drive [22:28:11] that shouldn't do anything except fixing any corruption if present if it's the same version [22:28:11] k i'll just do that [22:30:42] Kinda off topic but I'm interested in helping this cause, do you have a CS degree? or is this just a side hobby deal for you? [22:40:40] I'm a CS student, but this kind of stuff is a hobby thing, nothing you'd learn at the university [22:41:30] *** Quits: liar (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [22:42:22] *** Quits: Ceriously (53883d9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.136.61.154) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:47:52] *** Joins: Ceriously (53883d9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.136.61.154) [22:48:58] I'm obviously over thinking this, but when I go to put the installer in the umsboot do I just change the rockbox.ubi file? or do I need to do the whole installer folder file? [22:55:33] *** Quits: Ceriously (53883d9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.136.61.154) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)