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[03:33:08] <ret> hey there folks
[03:33:22] <ret> having trouble getting a ipod 160gb 6g into dfu mode
[03:57:49] <[Saint]> connect it to your PC via USB and hold the button combination for at least 12 seconds but no more than 15
[03:58:20] <[Saint]> the device screen should stay black at this point.
[04:02:40] <[Saint]> ret: have you got it yet bud?
[04:21:28] <ret> no man
[04:21:32] <ret> ugh
[04:21:54] <ret> did manual restore in itunes
[04:29:56] <cyb3rkn19ht> Keep trying. Had to try about 10 times before I finally got it.
[04:35:33] <ret> sorry had to take a phone call
[04:35:39] <ret> i had emcore and rockbox installed
[04:35:59] <ret> but it was buggy and the ipod would only go into usb mode like 50% of the time when it was plugged in
[04:36:07] <ret> so I restored to factory using itunes
[04:36:22] <ret> now i cant get it in DFU... I'm using the button combo for the 10 seconds
[04:36:36] <ret> i killed both apple processes
[04:36:42] <ret> itunes isnt running
[04:36:44] <ret> this is win7
[04:38:04] <ret> i wish rockbox was updated to support ipod classic 6gen without emcore bootloader
[04:39:03] <ret> why the fuck won't it go into DFU? grrrr
[04:40:04] <ret> @!$$!@#
[04:40:49] <[Saint]> It literally has to be a timing issue, it is hardware controlled...it can't not work as long as you hold the correct button combination for 12~15 seconds
[04:40:59] <TheSeven> ret: not requiring emcore wouldn't mean not requiring DFU
[04:41:11] <TheSeven> there's no other way to install *anything* on an ipod classic
[04:41:20] <ret> i know, its just that the rockbox automatic installer makes it very easy ;)
[04:41:32] <TheSeven> for devices where it *can* make it easy
[04:41:39] <TheSeven> on this one it probably can't
[04:41:50] <TheSeven> blame apple for their crypto bullshit
[04:41:53] <[Saint]> right, but you would still have to put the device in DFU mode to use it, if it were integrated into RbUtil
[04:42:18] <[Saint]> so, RbUtil wouldn't really make this portion any easier for you.
[04:42:51] <ret> ok
[04:43:06] <ret> ipod is plugged in with a blank screen
[04:43:16] <ret> when i do the two button combo for 12 seconds
[04:43:23] <ret> it turns on and then goes blank again
[04:43:39] <ret> no drive shows up and no discovery of apple mobile device etc
[04:43:59] <TheSeven> now run the bootstrapping tool
[04:44:25] <ret> could not open dfu device
[04:44:36] <TheSeven> hm, what does the device manager say?
[04:44:37] <ret> is the error I get
[04:44:45] <TheSeven> it might be hiding inside "usb controllers"
[04:45:14] <ret> dosent appear do be in any of the device trees
[04:45:51] <[Saint]> It might sound silly...but are you using one of the front USB ports on your machine?
[04:45:59] <ret> yeah, the ports are good
[04:46:07] <ret> ok i just plugged into a different port
[04:46:17] <ret> shows up in device manager as apple mobile device
[04:46:23] <[Saint]> (these front ports are often crap, and produce various hilarious errors)
[04:46:25] <ret> ipod indicates connected mode
[04:46:56] <ret> i will attempt dfu button combo again
[04:47:36] <ret> shuts off, apple logo, goes black, then apple logo upon release
[04:47:52] <ret> and back to connected
[04:48:10] <ret> shows up as normal drive with disk mode enabled
[04:48:17] <ret> not dfu
[04:48:49] <ret> yeah fuck apple and their walled garden bullshit
[04:50:46] <ret> screen goes black at 12 seconds as though it is in dfu
[04:51:12] <ret> oh shit finally! it worked
[04:51:36] <ret> maybe just wasn't launching the bootstrapper at the right time, perhaps
[04:53:11] <ret> <3 rockbox best fucking thing ever
[04:53:17] <ret> was epic on my 60gb
[04:53:26] <ret> especially with flac decoding
[04:53:32] <ret> all my shit is mp3 320kbps or flac
[05:00:36] <ret> fuck yeah its installed
[05:00:48] <ret> thanks for the support, <3
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