[00:53:16] *** Quits: liar (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [00:54:14] *** Joins: liar (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) [01:06:38] <[7]> LSpizzle: that message is to be expected and completely harmless [01:06:39] <[7]> it's basically windows complaining that the ipod briefly disconnected from usb because we took control over it [01:59:17] *** Quits: liar (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [02:06:06] *** Joins: liar (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) [02:17:25] *** Quits: liar (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [02:21:41] *** Joins: cyb3rkn19ht (~cyb3rkn19@pool-71-163-23-42.washdc.fios.verizon.net) [03:20:41] what do i do to get it to work? [03:24:12] *** Quits: cyb3rkn19ht (~cyb3rkn19@pool-71-163-23-42.washdc.fios.verizon.net) (Remote host closed the connection) [03:33:57] <[7]> LSpizzle: that message alone doesn't indicate any real problem [03:34:17] <[7]> it is basically part of the process that happens during bootstrapping of the ipod [03:35:13] <[7]> some people have trouble copying the file to the ipod after that step for some still unknown reason, but that message pretty much certainly isn't related to that in any way [03:35:44] <[Saint]> Indeed. That's just Windows freaking out at a USB device suddenly vanishing. [03:35:47] <[Saint]> Not a big deal. [03:47:46] so after that do i just wait until i see it appear? [03:49:34] * [Saint] nods [03:49:51] <[Saint]> It can take ~10 mins or so sometimes. [03:50:05] because it just shows up as removable drive e. not the 64mb drive and i cant open it [03:50:05] ok [03:50:16] <[Saint]> Realistically, it is a lot easier to just use a *nix liveCD/DVD/USB [03:50:58] <[Saint]> Oh...Hmmm. I have no idea why it would be doing that. [03:51:35] the green bar at the top of the folder just loads but never finishes and i cant even check properties [03:56:36] it was also making some programs i was running stop responding or it must've just been a recurring coincidence... [03:59:11] <[Saint]> You'd probably save yourself a world of trouble if you burnt a liveCD or created a bootable USB. [03:59:32] <[Saint]> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD [03:59:45] can u tell me how to do that? [03:59:53] <[Saint]> I just did. :) [04:00:06] thanks [04:00:16] what am i making a livecd of? [04:00:21] <[Saint]> There's also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#live-usb [04:00:40] <[Saint]> Your BIOS needs to actually be capable of booting from USB, though. [04:01:37] do u know where i can check if my BIOS can do that? [04:02:13] <[Saint]> The boot order settings in your BIOS setup should tell you. [04:02:35] <[Saint]> The LiveCD will "just work", I have not seen a modern BIOS that cannot boot from CD. [04:02:54] <[Saint]> and when I say "modern" I mean, "in the last 15 years or so" :) [04:03:30] <[Saint]> You /may/ need to change the boot order of the machine to accept the CD drive as the first option, since most manufacturers are insane. [04:04:07] <[Saint]> With most machines, you can get to your BIOS config by mashing F1, F2, or F12 at startup. [04:04:14] <[Saint]> sometimes its F8. [04:04:22] so check BIOS order. make a livecd/usb and boot into ubuntu? then what? [04:04:29] <[Saint]> ...there's only 12 options, you'll hit it eventually ;) [04:04:47] haha [04:05:09] sorry. i'm really not this dense but i feel a bit lost [04:05:26] <[Saint]> Check boot order, make liveCD/USB, boot into Ubuntu, follow the directions you followed last time except this time follow the linux directions. [04:06:13] gotcha. follow free my ipod steps but only in linux [04:06:16] <[Saint]> Which would mean starting from: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic/PrepareDFULinux [04:08:13] thanks so much for your help. i will try this as soon as i can. and ill come back if im having trouble. but still, thanks sooooo much!!!! [04:08:25] <[Saint]> Not a problem. [04:11:17] <[7]> [Saint]: you forgot the vast number of BIOSes that have "delete" as their setup entry key! :) [04:12:01] <[Saint]> WHoah....BIOSes do that? [04:12:09] <[Saint]> I have quite literally never seen that. [04:12:17] <[Saint]> I've seen Esc. and even tilde. [04:12:27] <[Saint]> But not Del. [04:12:31] <[Saint]> Live & learn. [04:12:32] <[7]> before EFI came up, like 80-90% of them had delete as their entry key [04:12:41] <[7]> mostly just IBM being different with F1 [04:12:44] <[7]> and HP with F8 [04:13:15] <[7]> but all those AMI or Phoenix bioses with those nice energy star logos on the bios screen typically have the DEL key [04:14:07] <[7]> then at some point intel switched from del to f2 [04:16:07] <[Saint]> My desktop has some reasonable new Pheonix/Award BIOS, and it is F6 [04:16:24] <[Saint]> I think its just basically random, really. :) [04:16:26] <[7]> well now that's something that I haven't seen yet [04:16:43] <[Saint]> It also has a boot order adjustment screen on f$ [04:16:49] <[Saint]> F4, even. [04:17:11] <[Saint]> So you can adjust boot order (but not add boot devices) without actually entering the BIOS. [04:17:17] <[Saint]> Wonderfully insecure. [04:17:51] <[Saint]> You can adjust the boot order on this machine *before* the BIOS/boot password kicks in. [04:18:36] <[Saint]> So if someone left CD/USB as an option...you'll own the machine, even if it is passworded. [04:18:46] <[Saint]> And those are both default options. ;) [04:19:22] <[7]> that is typically f8 or f10, and usually *after* the password check :) [04:19:53] <[Saint]> Indeed. They really fucked up. [04:20:16] <[Saint]> Mind you, this is also the only time I have ever seen a *tripple* BIOS system, as well. 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