[06:21:56] *** Quits: [7] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) (Disconnected by services) [06:22:04] *** Joins: TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) [18:39:06] *** Joins: LJG (5bb66d54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.182.109.84) [18:42:21] I am trying to install rockbox on my ipod 7g, got to the point of shutting it down completely, and the recovery driver installing but then nothing happened - should I have clicked on the pop-up when that came up, what should I do now? [18:54:20] LJG: read the instructions carefully and follow them step by step. once the ipod is in DFU mode and the recovery driver is installed, run the bootstrapper exe file [18:58:08] Yeah, got there, I was just being overly cautious ... thanks. [18:58:58] LJG: did the UMSboot drive come up properly, and did copying the installer file work? [18:59:03] <[Saint]> Maybe we should be more clear about the fact that absolutely NOTHING can go wrong here. [18:59:45] [Saint]: while that is technically true, it shouldn't be stated like that for legal reasons... otherwise people will start to blame absolutely everything on us :/ [19:00:05] <[Saint]> The absolute worst that can happen is a fully recoverable partial install, or, nothing at all and you never actually manage to install anything. [19:00:44] <[Saint]> I would also personally like to see someone try coming after you legally. :) [19:00:44] or a really weirdly corrupted installer file could trash your syscfg and leave you in a state that itunes can't recover. [19:00:57] has never happened so far and is less likely than winning the lottery, but who knows... [19:01:38] <[Saint]> In that event though, couldn't we just dump one for the make/model (or piece it together by hand?) and recover anyway? [19:01:51] <[Saint]> albeit with some fuckery. [19:02:27] we possibly could, but we don't know the meaning of some of the information in there, and it might impact how the OF interfaces with some circuitry, possibly blowing up that circuitry if it's wrong [19:02:56] it just doesn't quite match the definition of "absolutely NOTHING can go wrong", it's just extremely unlikely [19:03:39] <[Saint]> hashes of the valid installers are published, no? [19:03:50] <[Saint]> if not - probably good to do so. [19:03:54] many shit has happened during development and we haven't yet seen any HW damage from that, but I wouldn't want to state that nothing can happen [19:06:33] So I ran the winusb.inf and got an error message 'the parameter is incorrect' do I just go ahead and run bootstrap now? [19:06:49] grr. not that again. [19:07:05] which windows version? [19:07:21] Vista [19:07:26] someone with a windows system to test on should have a go at fixing that thing [19:07:37] <[Saint]> This is (partly) why I will pretty much flatly refuse to offer WIndows installation support to new users. [19:07:59] [Saint]: most of our user base is windows users though :/ [19:08:00] <[Saint]> I usually state right from the word go that to avoid issue, use *nix. [19:08:09] <[Saint]> This is true. :-/ [19:08:16] <[Saint]> Developer base, however... [19:08:54] someone needs to look into shis: https://code.google.com/p/winusbnet/wiki/INFTemplate [19:08:57] this* [19:12:21] So I take it I'm up the creek? [19:13:01] <[Saint]> I don't suppose you have a linux virtual machine or a LiveCD/DVD/USB around? [19:13:23] LJG: 4 options: [19:13:23] - cancel installation and forget about it [19:13:23] - fix up that winusb mess [19:13:23] - use the itunes way of installation instead [19:13:23] - use a linux system instead [19:14:02] * [Saint] actively discourages options 1 and 3 [19:14:05] No, no. I am pretty much useless when it comes to anything even slightly different/complicated, and on the other side of the world from the people I know who could help with that. [19:14:35] option 3 might be the path of least resistance then [19:15:19] Yeah, as long as I can never see Itunes again after it is installed, I will give it a shot [19:15:32] option 3 that is [19:17:35] Thanks for your help guys, and for all the development work. [20:08:21] *** Quits: LJG (5bb66d54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.182.109.84) (Quit: Page closed) [23:56:03] *** [Saint] is now known as [Sinner] [23:57:39] *** [Sinner] is now known as [Saint]