[00:12:58] user890104: maybe we should change that "disconnect" to "eject" or something [00:13:08] and note that it needs to be ejected via explorer, not via the tray icon [02:45:11] *** Joins: adam12345 (~minamato@hlfxns0169w-142176063186.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net) [02:47:13] hi, i just reached th point in the emcore installation where it says that a device called "Apple Recovery (DFU) USB Driver" should mount. it was a slightly diffrent name when mine came up and now i cant see it in "my computer" is this still ok? should i proceeed to run bootstrap_ipodclassic_itunes.exe? [03:12:24] *** Joins: [Saint] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) [03:16:14] *** Joins: [Saint_] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) [03:16:50] *** Quits: [Saint] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) (Disconnected by services) [03:16:59] *** [Saint_] is now known as [Saint] [03:26:14] hi, i just reached th point in the emcore installation where it says that a device called "Apple Recovery (DFU) USB Driver" should mount. it was a slightly diffrent name when mine came up and now i cant see it in "my computer" is this still ok? should i proceeed to run bootstrap_ipodclassic_itunes.exe? [03:28:06] <[Saint]> Well, I'll say this much: [03:28:11] <[Saint]> Doing so can't hurt anything. [03:28:58] <[Saint]> There's about 0.0001% possibility of anything going wrong during install that would affect the hardware negatively. [03:30:03] ok, thanks [03:30:51] great, it worked fine. now, on to step 2! [03:31:10] <[Saint]> Excellent. I may add a note to the instructions. [03:31:42] <[Saint]> Generally speaking, I advise users to stay away from the Windows {with|without} iTunes method(s) of installation. [03:32:08] <[Saint]> There's a buttload of things that can go wrong, not only user error, but "fun" Windows/iTunes errors too. [03:33:06] <[Saint]> Installation is a lot easier with ; but some users have the idea that "linux==hard/scary" [03:34:33] <[Saint]> The main issue I encounter is users swearing black and blue that they have killed every Apple/iTunes process (and possibly actually doing so) but the service(s) restarting spontaneously, thus thwarting installation. [03:34:54] hm...bootstrap ipod classic itunes.exe wont download to "UMSboot (G:)" and i can't move it from downloads into that device... [03:35:26] <[Saint]> That is...odd. [03:35:42] <[Saint]> I cannot think of a reason for that off the top of my head. [03:36:08] <[Saint]> Can you copy any arbitrary media to the volume (it won't hurt it, it looks for a specific set of files and nothing more) [03:36:13] <[Saint]> +? [03:37:30] its showing this weird error. can i send you a screen shot? [03:37:57] <[Saint]> You may, not directly, though (for the logs). Use imgur et al. [03:38:09] k [03:38:12] one sec [03:40:16] so i tried copying a .torrent file, it says "the volume is not available" [03:40:56] <[Saint]> I assume there's an exclamation mark on the device in the device manager? [03:41:17] <[Saint]> a small yellow triangle, or exclamation mark, something to this effect? [03:42:54] <[Saint]> Also, may I ask, is this the "with iTunes", or "without iTunes" installation method? [03:43:39] i have itunes installed but it's not running [03:45:00] <[Saint]> Whether iTunes is launched or not, it still has several processes running full-time, you still need to make sure to kill the iTunes-specific processes. [03:45:30] ok its working now, ill get back to you if i get confused again [03:45:36] dont go away! ;) [03:45:50] <[Saint]> At the least AppleMobileDeviceService.exe and iTunesHelper.exe *must not* be running. [03:52:00] yay!! its working!! [03:52:06] <[Saint]> Huzzah. [03:52:09] thanks for your help [03:52:13] <[Saint]> Now - don't *you* go away... [03:52:15] <[Saint]> One sec. [03:52:18] ok [03:53:35] <[Saint]> http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipod6g.zip <-- you'll need this to update to the latest revision of Rockbox [03:53:52] <[Saint]> The version bundled with the installer is ~18 months old [03:54:30] i didn't use the installer. i have a 7G ipod [03:54:41] <[Saint]> Note: The version linked above may have problems with USB on some systems, but you can always use the fallback image from the emCORE -> Tools menu to mount USB. [03:54:56] <[Saint]> "the installer" is what you just used. [03:55:06] <[Saint]> I would've said Rockbox Utility otherwise. [03:55:24] <[Saint]> But - anyway, you can in fact use Rockbox Utility to update the iPod if you prefer. [03:55:37] <[Saint]> You just can't use it to install emCORE [03:56:46] ok..so, download the utility and then plug in my ipod and run the utility? [03:57:27] <[Saint]> You can do that, yes. You can just extract the .zip from the link above to the root of the iPod if you find it easier, however. [03:58:15] <[Saint]> AH, yes, the version from the emCORE Releases page is from 2012-01-02 [03:58:17] <[Saint]> ...lol [03:58:42] oh ok great! just to confirm, i have the 7G/160GB ipod. this is still nessacery? i only ask because i see it says ipod6g in the file name [03:58:45] <[Saint]> The link I gave above never changes, and will always point to the most current development version of Rockbox for the iPod Classic [03:58:53] <[Saint]> And, yes. [03:59:03] ok awesome. thank you [03:59:10] <[Saint]> The Classic port covers the 6/6.5/7G Classics. [03:59:20] <[Saint]> One build for all. [04:00:00] excellent. ill just copy that over, make sure it works and then i'll get out of your hair. [04:00:21] <[Saint]> If you use Rockbox Utility to update, either now or in future, you will need to enable the "show disabled targets" checkbox. [04:00:39] <[Saint]> As the Classic is technically labled as "unusable" by Rockbox [04:01:07] <[Saint]> (that doesn't mean its actually unusable, its just a build classification that comes from the fact that there is no official Rockbox bootloader) [04:02:37] <[Saint]> While emCORE and Rockbox are somewhat related, there's no officially supported installation method as far as Rockbox is concerned so the port is labeled "unusable" and there is no effort made to publicize it. [04:05:13] <[Saint]> adam12345: If you would like to review a manual, to get accustomed to Rockbox, you may read the manual for the iPod Video: [04:05:14] <[Saint]> http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-build.html [04:05:55] <[Saint]> The two ports are incredibly similar, however, there are some as yet unimplemented features in the Classic port. [04:06:31] <[Saint]> You may also use any themes for the iPod Video on the iPod Classic as well: [04:06:33] <[Saint]> http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=ipodvideo [04:06:41] ok, its not mounting though...my computer make a sound when its conected but it doesnt show up in my computer [04:07:19] <[Saint]> IS this since updating? [04:07:37] no, im trying to connect it so that i can update [04:07:53] dang, there it is [04:08:09] <[Saint]> Try another USB port, preferably not a front panel port, and definitely not a USB 3 port. [04:08:14] <[Saint]> AH. [04:08:23] i want to overwrite any files with duplicate names right? [04:08:30] <[Saint]> It can take a while to mount, Windows sometimes likes to read the entirte FAT table. [04:08:59] <[Saint]> And, yes. Extract the .zip directly to the root of the device and let it replace any/all files it wants to. [04:09:28] okee dokee here goes [04:09:34] <[Saint]> After you eject the device, Rockbox should tell you that the binary has changed and request a reboot. [04:10:49] ok, it seems to work! [04:11:11] <[Saint]> If after updating you have problems with USB, you can boot the fallback image embedded in the firmware partition (for safety purposes) by navigating to the Tools menu of the emCORE loader and selecting the Rockbox Fallback Image [04:12:20] <[Saint]> Problems with USB are known in recent builds, but there are too many other bug fixes and performance tweaks added in the last ~18 months to warrant keeping an ancient build just for the sake of USB. [04:12:27] ok, how do i get it to automaticly load rockbox on startup? [04:13:03] <[Saint]> Tools -> Fastboot -> Rockbox, iirc. [04:13:13] <[Saint]> (from the emCORE main menu) [04:13:52] sorry, whats "iirc"? [04:13:57] <[Saint]> To boot into the emCORE menu with fastboot activated, you simply need to hold any key during boot (except hold). [04:14:07] <[Saint]> "if I remember correctly" [04:14:14] oh ok, i got it [04:14:29] thanks, you have been increadably helpful [04:14:37] <[Saint]> Not a problem. [04:14:59] <[Saint]> One of us is usually close by if you need help. [04:15:03] <[Saint]> Don't be shy. :) [04:15:06] peace out, saint [04:15:13] <[Saint]> Enjoy. 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