[00:01:15] *** Quits: krnlyng (~liar@83.175.90.24) (Quit: huiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii) [00:32:30] *** Quits: fmibot (~fmibot@v220100145842398.yourvserver.net) (Remote host closed the connection) [01:06:20] *** Joins: fmibot (~fmibot@v220100145842398.yourvserver.net) [01:06:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o fmibot [01:08:35] <[7]> <[Saint]> It would be *so* much easier if the Classic was the only target using that USB controller. << why that? [01:08:44] <[7]> there isn't much target dependent code in the USB area [01:09:00] <[7]> or at least not much that differs between the classic and nano2g [01:09:27] <[Saint]> Isn't there an AMS target, or targets, as well? [01:09:36] <[Saint]> I believe there is... [01:34:08] <[7]> right... but those shouldn't be overly different either [01:37:03] <[Saint]> I seem to recall there being some terget-specific hackery I didn't want to get myself too involved in. [01:37:07] <[Saint]> I'll have another look. [01:37:34] * gevaerts looks up [01:37:56] [Saint]: the target-specific hackery is why you're not working on the USB drivers? [01:38:49] <[Saint]> One of the lesser reasons, yes. [01:39:05] :) [02:14:54] *** Joins: m64m (~m64m@bas11-toronto12-1088914657.dsl.bell.ca) [02:16:56] Hey guys, I just installed Rockbox on my iPod Classic 6th gen, and the model isn't in Roxbox Utility's main device list. Is it really unsafe to use it (since it's a disabled target)? [02:17:46] I'm sick of Apple's original firmware. It keeps acting funky, and I know the device can do better. [02:18:53] <[7]> m64m: it isn't really "unsafe", we just don't make any claim about usability and don't officially support it [02:19:25] <[7]> i.e. it might be acting up on some occasions [02:19:38] Okay. [02:19:56] I've just had the original firmware lock up my device twice over the past four days. [02:20:12] It shut itself off and went into a pseudo-reboot loop. [02:28:09] Anywho, thanks for the info. [02:37:34] I tried to download the manual and it 404'd. Can I use a manual from a similar model? [02:42:15] <[7]> m64m: the ipod video manual should be quite similar, except for a slightly different feature set [02:42:59] <[7]> the underlying hardware is very different though, so files for one generation won't work for the other one [02:43:29] <[7]> and the bootloader installation procedure is completely different [02:44:34] Alright. [02:44:35] Thanks. [03:29:19] *** Joins: kc4 (52987115@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.152.113.21) [03:33:20] Hi, I am attempting to install rockbox on an iPod Classic (3rd Gen). I am following the installation instructions to the letter. However, once in DFU mode, after running 'sudo python ipoddfu.py bootstrap-ipodclassic-*.dfu', running fdisk does not find the 64MB described in the installation instructions. Anybody have any clues as to what I may be doing wrong? Thanks. [03:50:31] *** Quits: kc4 (52987115@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.152.113.21) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [04:42:39] Welp. Looks like the battery on my iPod is shot. [04:42:53] It did the reset thing, and Rockbox was showing a negative battery level. [05:29:27] *** Quits: m64m (~m64m@bas11-toronto12-1088914657.dsl.bell.ca) (Quit: Leaving) [06:10:33] *** Quits: [7] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) (Disconnected by services) [06:10:47] *** Joins: TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) [06:29:03] *** Quits: [Saint] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) (Remote host closed the connection) [06:31:09] *** Joins: [Saint] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) [08:12:21] *** Quits: [Saint] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) (Quit: Quit.) [08:13:26] *** Joins: [Saint] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) [08:17:45] *** [Saint] is now known as [Saint_] [08:17:59] *** [Saint_] is now known as [Saint__] [08:18:13] *** [Saint__] is now known as [Saint] [10:42:45] *** Quits: fmibot (~fmibot@v220100145842398.yourvserver.net) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [13:01:19] *** Joins: dydx (561b3494@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.27.52.148) [13:02:27] Hi. I've got an ipod classic (120gb) which I'm unable to get into DFU mode . [13:03:17] I've tried holding the select and menu keys together, but it just loops endlessly back into the boot menu. troubleshooting page suggested i contact you ... can you help? [13:06:16] BTW, my aim is to uninstall emcore &rockbox back to vanilla ipod. No probs with rockbox working at the moment, and I can access 'tools' and 'run umsboot'. [13:07:28] have tried re-installing emcore by dropping ubi file into 64mb partition, but still no joy. [13:34:34] dydx: can you get it to DFU mode? [13:35:27] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_bIDtBohnE [13:35:37] no i can't - just read another thread about someone using ipad classic 6g, saying it's a one-way street "emcore completely replaces ipod firmware" ... maybe i'm barking up the wrong tree and should just give up? [13:36:21] yes, seen the video ... it just keeps looping back round to the boot menu (over & over & over again) [13:36:46] very briefly displays the emcore version between each reboot [13:41:00] disregard anything on the screen while perform the procedure [13:41:17] make sure the usb cable is connected to the ipod and your computer all the time [13:41:34] hold down menu+select, count to 12, then release them - that's all [13:42:13] once you get to dfu, either use our tools to revert to the stock firmware, or use itunes - it should be happy to restore it [13:43:17] in other words, hold down the reset combo, then the ipod reboot. wait until the display goes dark after that reboot, and immediately release the buttons [13:47:01] cable connected to pc (but not showing up as usb mass storage device) [13:47:23] held menu+select .. after about 5 seconds reboots [13:47:44] after 5s more reboots again [13:48:03] after 5s more reboots again ... [13:48:50] ... this time 30s counter (at bottom left of rockbox boot menu) reaches 0, and ipod shuts down [13:49:27] i think this is shut down, not dfu mode, pressing any button reboots ... same all over again [13:50:39] can you release the buttons immediately after the second reboot? [13:51:02] does it continue to reboot then, or it stays shut down? [13:58:33] already tried - just reboots - not sure if it's a timing issue as it's very quick, but tried many times without success [14:00:46] it's either a timing issue, or something with the buttons [14:08:39] ok thanks ... i guess that's all solved continue trying until my timing is perfect enough. [14:23:41] it shouldn't be that hard [14:36:52] it's incredibly finicky - don't be so dismissive (wouldn't be hard if the 2nd reboot function worked) ... still haven't managed, even trying to pre-empt the 2nd reboot [14:39:26] are you sure that the usb cable is properly connected? [14:39:42] the procedure should be exactly the same as when you initially installed emcore [14:39:59] having our firmware on the ipod does not alter the DFU code in any way [14:40:13] it should work regardless of the current firmware [14:40:38] it's in the CPU (the bootrom, which can't be altered by means of software) [14:41:42] does your computer show any indication when the ipod reboots? like device connected/disconnected sounds (windows), lsusb (linux) or in system information (mac)? 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