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[00:34:30] <TheSeven> e0in: which umsboot version are you using?
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[01:22:19] <e0in> TheSeven: v0.0.1 r419
[01:23:02] <TheSeven> e0in: that one is known to sometimes do that
[01:23:17] <TheSeven> user890104: do we have a non-itunes bootstrapper with 0.2 yet?
[01:24:03] <TheSeven> probably this one... http://files.freemyipod.org/targets/iPod%20classic/bootstrap_ipodclassic_new.exe
[01:24:11] <TheSeven> e0in: you might want to try that bootstrapper
[01:24:25] <e0in> alright, doing that now
[01:26:03] <user890104> TheSeven: that's 0.2.1
[01:26:20] <TheSeven> winusb non-itunes? c or .net?
[01:26:44] <user890104> C#, should work only with our winusb driver, still untested
[01:27:03] <user890104> it looks up the device by driver guid, not by vid/pid
[01:27:19] <TheSeven> so my c# mess updated with a newer umsboot...
[01:27:27] <user890104> exactly
[01:28:33] <e0in> tried that, got "DFU payload was rejected: 10"
[01:29:05] <user890104> i must have messed up something when building the bootstrapper then
[01:29:37] <user890104> can you wait a couple of minutes while i look into this?
[01:29:44] <e0in> sure
[02:08:58] <user890104> TheSeven: any idea what's wrong? i can reproduce the issue here, but i don't know what is causing it
[02:09:24] <TheSeven> bad header signature, size mismatch, ...
[02:10:11] <TheSeven> in theory you should be able to just use the payload from the itunes bootstrapper
[02:10:59] <user890104> that's what i'm doing, let me check that again
[02:15:17] <TheSeven> what's the size of the dfu image?
[02:15:44] <user890104> 26 992 bytes
[02:16:04] <user890104> does it need to be a multiple of something?
[02:16:04] <TheSeven> hm, so no alignment problems either
[02:16:16] <TheSeven> 4 or 16... both are met here
[02:17:01] <user890104> well, the same payload works with libusb+ipoddfu.py, and doesn't using winusb+your C# app
[02:17:55] <TheSeven> hm, look into the DFU transfer logic then
[02:18:15] <TheSeven> I can't think of anything obvious that could be wrong there, but who knows
[02:18:43] <user890104> that's where i also failed, when porting ipoddfu.py to C a while ago
[02:19:44] <user890104> is the dfu protocol a standard? can we use a generic dfu upload tool?
[02:20:10] <TheSeven> I can't see a reason why that would cause it to fail with some payloads only
[02:20:37] <TheSeven> DFU is a generic standard, but there's not really a general purpose tool for it
[02:20:52] <TheSeven> openmoko has something, but it's not really adequate for our purposes
[02:21:10] <TheSeven> we need to treat it a bit special because we're crashing the dfu loader on the device in order to exploit it
[03:05:04] <e0in> I'll check back in the morning
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[13:43:10] <e0in> Hello. Any progress overnight?
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[14:51:01] <user890104> e0in: no, but there's an alternative method which should work for you
[14:52:43] <e0in> ok.
[14:56:13] <user890104> it involves installing part of itunes (only the ipod drivers)
[14:56:21] <user890104> i can guide you if you want
[14:56:58] <user890104> and you can uninstall the drivers when you're done with the emCORE installation
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[14:57:46] <e0in> alright, lets give it a try
[15:07:53] <user890104> ok, let me find the instructions
[15:09:41] <TheSeven> [23:06:53] <user890104> V_: go to www.apple.com/itunes/
[15:09:41] <TheSeven> [23:07:03] <user890104> download the installer, but do not run it
[15:09:41] <TheSeven> [23:08:23] <user890104> do you have an archiver, like winrar or 7zip?
[15:09:41] <TheSeven> [23:08:52] <user890104> great, open it and browse to the file
[15:09:41] <TheSeven> [23:09:27] <user890104> then right-click it, and select open inside (ctrl+pg down)
[15:09:43] <TheSeven> [23:09:56] <user890104> then click on AppleMobileDeviceSupport64.msi, and select Copy from the toolbar
[15:09:46] <TheSeven> [23:10:11] <user890104> put it on the desktop for example, then run it from the desktop
[15:09:48] <TheSeven> [23:10:25] <user890104> let it install, select Ignore when it complains about some apple service
[15:09:50] <TheSeven> [23:10:47] <user890104> when the install is done, put your ipod in dfu again
[15:09:52] <TheSeven> [23:11:07] <user890104> download this file
[15:09:54] <TheSeven> [23:11:08] <user890104> http://files.freemyipod.org/targets/iPod%20classic/bootstrap_ipodclassic_itunes.exe
[15:09:57] <TheSeven> [23:11:10] <user890104> and run it
[15:09:59] <TheSeven> [23:11:23] <user890104> and you're done with umsboot :)
[15:10:01] <TheSeven> [23:11:36] <user890104> this version should work fine with the same .ubi you have
[15:10:03] <TheSeven> [23:12:31] <user890104> after you complete the installation, you can go to Programs and features, and remove apple's drivers (order the apps by Date installed so you can find it easily)
[15:10:32] <VOBOSHI> Hah, that brings back memories.
[15:10:36] <VOBOSHI> Hello, guys!
[15:12:20] <user890104> TheSeven: thanks
[15:12:25] <user890104> VOBOSHI: hi
[15:13:15] * VOBOSHI tips hat to user890104, TheSeven, [Saint].
[15:43:48] * user890104 just added a new installtion method to the wiki
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