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[08:01:41] <cynergy> hi all.. could i ask for some help using this em core
[08:03:22] <cynergy> i'm using windows 7 x64 - have followed the directions to the letter - the first time the bootstrap program couldn't find the DFU device - i repeated the directions - the 2nd time it took abt 3 seconds then said it was sucessful. the ipod screen lit up with a logo and coloured fuzz everywhere.
[08:04:15] <cynergy> this is where the ipod sits - no other devices have showed up in device manager. I noticed in the background the boot strap program complained it couldn't find the specified file... but still displayed the message it was complete
[08:04:39] <cynergy> i am cautious to reboot the ipod and try again or touch it until i hear from someone :)
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[08:52:53] <austin> Hi all
[08:52:57] <austin> Can someone help me out?
[08:53:33] <[Saint]> Only if you tell us what's wrong.
[08:53:55] <austin> I just loaded rockbox onto my ipod classic 7g and it wont show up on my computer unless I put it into dfu mode
[08:54:45] <[Saint]> It must do. Otherwise you wouldn't have been able to install it in the first place.
[08:55:05] <[Saint]> Boot the fallback image from emCORE main menu -> Tools -> Run Rockbox fallback image
[08:55:05] <austin> That's what Im saying.... I installed it now I cant put music and what not on it
[08:55:12] <[Saint]> see above
[08:55:45] <austin> trying it now thanks
[08:56:33] <austin> showing up in devices and printers under apple mobile device usb driver
[08:56:45] <austin> but no "drive" to put stuff on 
[08:57:52] <[Saint]> Well, you can uninstall that driver, its useless now.
[08:58:23] <austin> where can I find it.... I've looked all over lol in device manager wouldn't it be?
[08:58:57] <[Saint]> right click on the device presented in device manager and it should offer removing the driver as an option.
[08:59:09] <[Saint]> Its been about half a decade since I've used windows, though.
[08:59:25] <austin> you running linux?
[08:59:31] <austin> or ubuntu?
[08:59:31] <[Saint]> Inded.
[08:59:34] <austin> ah 
[08:59:57] <austin> Family isn't very computer smart so I gotta stick with windows lol
[09:00:34] <[Saint]> I'm guessing you went with the Windows w/ iTunes install route?
[09:00:50] <austin> alright uninstall it, now its searching for drivers for "rockbox media player"
[09:01:40] <austin> well now it's showing up haha 
[09:01:51] <[Saint]> Glad to be of service.
[09:01:54] <austin> thanks for your help 
[09:02:01] <[Saint]> I shall remember to add this to the wiki.
[09:02:10] <[Saint]> Its a step (cleaning up) we seem to have neglected.
[09:02:36] <austin> Yeah, it's not too hard to figure out but might help to put it somewhere people can find it
[09:02:48] <austin> again thanks for you help, gonna go catch some z's now 
[09:02:53] <[Saint]> o/
[09:02:55] <[Saint]> Enjoy.
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[09:28:09] <cynergy> I have installed emcore - have the roxbox menu on the screen but when i connect the ipod to the laptop - it searches for an emcore debugger driver.... thus i cannot continue to the next step
[09:28:42] <user890104> cynergy: select Rockbox from the boot menu
[09:28:59] <cynergy> ahh
[09:29:00] <user890104> emCORE debugger means you're still in the boot menu
[09:29:05] <[Saint]> cynergy: you must have opened the emCORE console.
[09:29:07] <[Saint]> Don't.
[09:29:10] <cynergy> apologies
[09:29:18] <cynergy> now i have a usb logo on screen
[09:29:24] <user890104> [Saint]: it also shows while you're in the boot menu
[09:29:35] <[Saint]> Oh? Huh. My mistake.
[09:29:36] <user890104> because ... emCORE *is* running :)
[09:30:02] <cynergy> and now i have access to ipod classic storage - thankyou -  i shall continue on with guide
[09:30:13] <user890104> yes, go on
[09:30:41] <[Saint]> user890104: can you please add "remember to clean up and delete the original/edited drivers" to the Windows w/ iTunes method?
[09:30:58] <[Saint]> I just discovered I can't remember my wiki login details
[09:31:13] <user890104> [Saint]: you don't need to
[09:31:31] <[Saint]> user890104: did you see the above conversation?
[09:31:31] <user890104> the drive still appears as a child device of Apple mobile driver bla-bla
[09:32:00] <[Saint]> User couldn't mount until the drivers were uninstalled.
[09:32:18] <[Saint]> Only after the drivers were removed did it present Rockbox as a storage device.
[09:32:50] <[Saint]> (and, they're useless to the user anyway, so may as well clean up)
[09:34:08] <user890104> no! they bring a shiny icon on the disk drive, that represents your exact type of ipod :P
[09:34:25] <user890104> http://i.imgur.com/36HT0lg.png
[09:34:33] <user890104> apple's drivers don't seem to get in the way
[09:34:51] <user890104> i guess that the previous issue could be solved by just reconnecting
[09:35:12] <[Saint]> Its non-obvious from the logs, but we were talking a while via PM.
[09:35:19] <[Saint]> Disconnect/reconnect didn't help.
[09:35:21] <user890104> (that's the rockbox fallback image btw)
[09:35:55] <[Saint]> Rockbox only presented itself *after* the removal of the Apple drivers.
[09:36:20] <[Saint]> I know this shouldn't necessarily be the case, but, it happened.
[09:36:53] <[Saint]> Since there's no practical benefit to keeping the driver there...and it may help us with support down the track, I see no harm in instructing users to remove it.
[09:37:45] <user890104> IIRC, i'm actually giving such instructions in the wiki
[09:38:22] <user890104> http://freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic/InstalliTunesDrivers at the bottom
[09:39:35] <[Saint]> Right, not particularly helpful to those using the walkthrough, though.
[09:39:50] <[Saint]> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic/UMSboot (the part where they'll discover this) makes no mention of it.
[09:41:17] <[Saint]> Oh. I totally misparsed that link.
[09:41:21] <[Saint]> Whoops. Nevermind.
[09:42:07] <[Saint]> Yes. Ok. So it says it there, but not in the "With iTunes" bit.
[09:44:19] <user890104> i'll add it then
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[11:13:54] <opirris> Hello there, I have a question about the EmCORE installation process. I've been following the wizard on the wiki page.
[11:14:03] <opirris> following this guide: http://freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic/DFUiTunes
[11:14:45] <opirris> When I get to the step that shows it should install the DFU USB driver, a driver starts to install but just says it's an apple mobile device driver
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[11:15:58] <opirris> i run the bootstrap, and the ipod goes into the UMS mode or whatever, but the 64MB disk does not show up 
[11:17:05] <user890104> opirris: what version of umsboot are you using? it's displayed on the first line of ipod's screen
[11:17:27] <opirris> it showed 0.2.1 i believe 
[11:17:33] <opirris> give me a second to get back there
[11:17:48] <opirris> yes, 0.2.1
[11:18:05] <opirris> oh, wait. there it is now. 
[11:18:12] <opirris> odd.
[11:19:05] <user890104> it's buggy sometimes
[11:20:23] <opirris> I'll hang out here in case i have any other questions.
[11:43:11] <opirris> seems to have gone smoothly....however it doesn't appear to be recognizing any music files.
[11:47:35] <opirris> loaded up a 2-3 GB of stuff
[11:47:59] <opirris> from single files, to folders within folders
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[20:27:09] <Ecaz> Hi all :-)
[20:31:35] <user890104> hi
[20:32:15] <Ecaz> :-)
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[21:23:11] <austin> I've got another question, my rockbox'd ipod will not uninstall or show up in itunes or windows 7 
[21:23:28] <austin> I've held menu + select down and it just reboots rockbox 3x
[21:25:54] <user890104> austin: you want to uninstall rockbox?
[21:26:21] <austin> yes, so I can reinstall it it's not showing up on my computer so i can put music on it
[21:26:49] <user890104> if you uninstall rockbox (and emcore), this will delete all data on the ipod's hard disk
[21:27:04] <austin> I know...
[21:27:06] <user890104> then if you put music on it, it will be deleted if you install rockbox again
[21:27:28] <austin> I know that, I have no music on it right now because  I can put any on it
[21:27:48] <user890104> did you try the fallback image?
[21:27:56] <user890104> Tools - Rockbox fallback image
[21:28:02] <user890104> it should work for file managing
[21:28:06] <austin> Yes, didn't change anything
[21:28:09] <user890104> ok then
[21:28:16] <user890104> open itunes, and connect the ipod to usb
[21:28:31] <user890104> hold down menu+select, count to 12 (seriously), then release the buttons
[21:28:45] <user890104> no matter what the screen of the ipod shows, just do that
[21:28:50] <user890104> itunes will offer to restore it
[21:29:17] <austin> done... it's not offering to restore it though
[21:29:49] <user890104> it should reboot at 5-6 second, then at about 11 or 12 it should go dark
[21:29:57] <austin> it did
[21:30:02] <user890104> you need to release the buttons as soon as it gets dark the second time
[21:30:14] <user890104> if you continue to hold them, it will reboot again and you don't want that
[21:30:23] <user890104> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_bIDtBohnE
[21:30:26] <austin> I know, it's dark right now
[21:30:53] <user890104> if it's dark, it's in DFU
[21:31:01] <user890104> check device manager if the right driver is installed
[21:31:03] <austin> so why its itunes detecting it?
[21:31:18] <user890104> if not, uninstall the driver then click Scan for hardware changes
[21:31:26] <user890104> and itunes should install its own driver
[21:31:27] <austin> apple mobile device usb driver is install
[21:32:05] <austin> alright its install usb dfu device
[21:32:29] <user890104> ok, so it's in DFU mode
[21:32:40] <austin> yes but still not showing in itunes
[21:32:46] <user890104> you can try to close itunes then open it
[21:32:56] <user890104> if not, you can use an older version
[21:32:59] <user890104> of itunes
[21:33:17] <user890104> it's also possible to install the old firmware without using itunes at all
[21:33:33] <austin> where can I download older version of itunes? Do they offer that on the apple site?
[21:33:35] <user890104> but it's a tricky process and recommended only for experienced users
[21:34:01] <austin> how would I install old firmware without itunes?
[21:34:05] <user890104> here's a video, but it's not explained: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEz0cCDBqnQ
[21:34:15] <user890104> i can guide you through the process
[21:34:27] <user890104> but as you can see, it's not trivial
[21:34:39] <user890104> installing an older itunes version should be more painless
[21:34:41] <austin> would it worth doing this or should I try to install a older version of windows
[21:34:47] <austin> or maybe I could just restart my pc?
[21:34:53] <user890104> let me find a link to an old verson of itunes first
[21:34:59] <austin> alright thanks
[21:35:00] <user890104> then we can try other options
[21:36:25] <user890104> http://freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Uninstallation
[21:36:35] <user890104> there's a link for itunes at the bottom
[21:36:53] <user890104> then in the blog post, there's a section about windows
[21:37:46] <austin> alright ill try that 
[21:40:39] <user890104> if you don't have any important data in the itunes library, you can skip all the steps and simply uninstall/reinstall itunes
[21:40:55] <austin> yeah I have all my music and stuff on other folders 
[21:41:46] <austin> in the process of deleting all the itunes things
[21:46:00] <austin> will I be able to sync my ipod touch after this? 
[22:01:50] <austin> so its detecting the ipod in itunes but its failing to contact the ipod software update server
[22:07:49] <user890104> ah well ...
[22:07:58] <user890104> seems like we'll need to go the manual way
[22:08:16] <austin> lol is there a video I can watch that will help
[22:08:45] <user890104> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEz0cCDBqnQ this one, but as i said, i didn't explain what i'm doing in the video
[22:08:57] <user890104> i was just testing my screen capturing software
[22:09:12] <austin> how about on the site? Doesn't it show how to manual restore an ipod
[22:09:23] <user890104> but i uploaded it because it could be useful to someone who knows the steps
[22:09:31] <user890104> no, we haven't documented this
[22:09:39] <user890104> i think i have something that will help you
[22:09:43] <user890104> just a moment
[22:10:48] <austin> this is all I could find http://freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Uninstallation
[22:11:06] <user890104> yes
[22:11:15] <user890104> i'm looking at some irc logs
[22:11:33] <user890104> where i explained the whole procedure and the other guy successfully restored his ipod
[22:12:39] <austin> ah gotcha
[22:17:28] <user890104> ok found it
[22:18:22] <austin> alright
[22:21:13] <user890104> that's part 1: http://files.freemyipod.org/~user890104/logs/20131010-restore-ipod-classic-without-itunes.txt
[22:21:22] <user890104> the links are dead, but i can re-upload the files
[22:23:46] <user890104> that's part 2, but it also contains a bunch of other discussions: http://files.freemyipod.org/~user890104/logs/20131016-restore-ipod-classic-without-itunes.txt
[22:24:37] <austin> alright so what file do I need
[22:25:45] <user890104> you need our usb drivers, python 3, pyusb, ipodscsi and ipoddfu.py
[22:25:58] <austin> alright where can I get that
[22:26:02] <user890104> also a firmware image for your model, and the firmware itself
[22:26:13] <user890104> i'll send you download links
[22:26:43] <austin> alright thanks
[22:27:48] <austin> should I maybe restart my computer to see if that fixes the itunes problem?
[22:28:53] <austin> I'm going to do that i'll brb
[22:30:32] <user890104> ok
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[22:35:59] <austin> alright im back
[22:37:25] <austin> that didnt work.... 
[22:39:32] <austin> question... since I can get into usm mode can I flash a custom ubi?
[22:45:55] <user890104> yes
[22:46:09] <user890104> that might help, we have a testing version which has its own disk mode
[22:46:21] <austin> could you link me to it?
[22:46:25] <austin> that might fix my issues
[22:47:14] <user890104> keep in mind that it's still a beta software, but i had no issues uploading 30 GB of data using it
[22:47:39] <austin> right now , i'd try anything lol
[22:47:52] <user890104> https://mega.co.nz/#!pgcTSbBa!TH2Kx3CtPQobDjBBJuchfpZEMO--nKekA4vDdYnl67E
[22:52:42] <austin> alright put it in disk mode.... not showing up 
[22:55:10] <austin> I guess im just going to have to manually restore it :(
[22:55:41] <austin> wait :o it showed up
[22:56:27] <austin> can I format it using windows then restore using itunes?
[22:58:07] <user890104> first: yes, second: no
[23:00:22] <austin> What were the files I needed to restore it?
[23:05:37] <user890104> https://mega.co.nz/#!s0gkDI5K!I2fYtWcZxh_lOsKaQsEQQXkb6s0da_hW1I8oYVfVD9w
[23:05:50] <user890104> https://mega.co.nz/#!I0Ix0a6S!XKlcj2xM4mEj-FQIS-Tmq34Gg8wlQ60oEdYX60zpCR4
[23:05:53] <austin> are these the steps? http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Troubleshooting
[23:06:04] <user890104> https://mega.co.nz/#!csZHTbRI!fRSg0RP5ixr5lX5NN_Eb0Apfp4MJGoTd9UcRF38ST2Y
[23:06:15] <user890104> https://mega.co.nz/#!k8x3ES6J!MNdVPljhpDsN9AA61l1sJhER47Uq71OgaJ_GcaavC4Y
[23:06:25] <user890104> https://mega.co.nz/#!YsoWEY5Q!cf0XywNIBoCYJimaVwXtYHeCjpUoh1jb3YDTLTNlOXw
[23:06:34] <user890104> no
[23:06:43] <user890104> that's for nano2g
[23:07:11] <austin> alright all downloaded
[23:07:42] <user890104> please wait a minute until i finish my phone call :)
[23:07:58] <austin> okay np
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[23:12:23] <Ecaz> So I booted into Linux on OS X via Live USB and mounted Disk mode, but when I tried to copy files to the unit I got a PANIC
[23:12:45] <Ecaz> However, when I loaded up Rockbox and mounted it, it went into USB mode and worked fine
[23:13:39] <Ecaz> not sure if thats expected with the dev diskmode you provided, but I thought it was interesting that even w/ Linux, disk mode didn’t like to be written to, even though it mounted and displayed fine
[23:13:53] <Ecaz> anyway, just wanted to put that out there in case you needed to know
[23:30:46] <user890104> austin: extract all archives to a folder of your choice (for example, desktop)
[23:31:23] <user890104> Ecaz: can you try this version of diskmode: https://mega.co.nz/#!pgcTSbBa!TH2Kx3CtPQobDjBBJuchfpZEMO--nKekA4vDdYnl67E
[23:31:30] <user890104> go to UMSboot, then drop the .ubi there
[23:31:35] <user890104> and eject the disk
[23:31:39] <Ecaz> sure will
[23:32:50] <austin> done
[23:33:04] <Ecaz> hm, I think the cloud site is teasing me
[23:33:07] <Ecaz> it says 99%
[23:36:19] <austin> Do i install all these?
[23:36:33] <user890104> no
[23:37:36] <user890104> open this link: http://files.freemyipod.org/~user890104/freemyipod/logs/20131010-restore-ipod-classic-without-itunes.txt
[23:37:45] <user890104> then look for [23:05:06]
[23:37:51] <user890104> and follow the instructions
[23:38:09] <Ecaz> user890104: will you DCC me the file, the cloud site doesn’t like me
[23:38:28] <user890104> austin: you need to put your ipod in DFU mode first
[23:38:35] <user890104> Ecaz: yes, sure
[23:40:27] <Ecaz> brb
[23:40:41] * Ecaz sighs and says something about girls…
[23:42:50] <austin> done do i need to uninstall itunes all over again?
[23:43:07] <Ecaz> back
[23:43:09] <user890104> austin: yes, just to make sure it doesn't get in the way
[23:43:25] <user890104> Ecaz: for some reason, the file doesn't download for me, too
[23:43:31] <Ecaz> whew
[23:43:38] <Ecaz> im not cursed
[23:45:21] <user890104> but the good ol' dcc seems to be working fine :)
[23:45:43] <Ecaz> woot
[23:46:35] <Ecaz> so, in order to run this I’ve got to reboot into Linux
[23:46:47] <austin> When im done uninstalling Im going to update the dfu driver right?
[23:46:55] <Ecaz> I’ve got some errands to run, but I will give you a report tonight
[23:53:03] <user890104> Ecaz: what operating system are you runnung at the moment?
[23:53:17] <user890104> austin: yes
[23:53:35] <user890104> uninstall it, then install itunes and it should take care of the rest
[23:57:33] <austin> me or him?
[23:59:03] <user890104> you
[23:59:16] <austin> k so I updated the dfu driver, now reinstall itunes?
[23:59:20] <austin> itunes 9 or 11?
[23:59:29] <user890104> did you complete the restore process?
[23:59:49] <austin> no I just put the ipod in dfu mode and updated the driver
[23:59:53] <user890104> ah