[02:20:30] *** Quits: TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) (Remote host closed the connection) [02:21:16] *** Joins: TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) [06:11:06] *** Joins: steffengy (~quassel@p57B49411.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [06:13:49] *** Quits: steffengy1 (~quassel@p57B497C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [06:26:39] *** Quits: TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [06:27:58] *** Joins: TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) [11:48:34] *** Quits: Elfish (amba@2001:1608:12:1:13:3:3:7) (*.net *.split) [11:50:41] *** Joins: Elfish (amba@84.201.30.174) [12:04:18] *** Quits: [Saint] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:04:30] *** Joins: [Saint] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) [15:43:03] [Saint]: can the FiiO E12 be used as a desktop amp, drawing power from USB? [15:44:29] meh, the USB port is on the side [16:14:23] * user890104 is wondering why would someone use a headphone amp [16:39:02] user890104: picky balanced armature IEMs and power hungry headphones [16:39:47] turns out my modded iPod produces I/O noise on the headphone out, that I can only hear with my BA IEMs [16:41:22] with other DAPs and BA IEMs there's also hiss, output impedance issues and channel imbalance issues at low volume [16:41:44] so it amplifies line out, so you can completely skip the headphone circuit inside the ipod (including volume control)? [16:41:53] yup [16:42:08] i see, makes sense if you have *that* sensitive headphones [16:42:28] the I/O noise is loud and clear with my IEMs [16:42:50] and I can't hear it (or perhaps very, very faintly) with relatively sensitive headphones [16:43:03] it's very weird [16:43:45] and yes, balanced armature IEMs are usually very sensitive, a lot more than headphones, even portable ones [16:44:11] which is a problem that a good amp can fix [16:44:33] the audiophoolery is buying an amp without a known problem to fix [16:44:51] and hoping that it will "increase the soundstage" and "tighten the bass" and whatnot [16:49:11] some devices also have very low output, like smartphones, especially EU models [16:51:51] I wonder if [Saint] has the same problem with his SSD iPod, or if he never noticed because he always uses an amp [21:08:08] *** Joins: aboutGod (~aboutGod@static-72-66-66-50.washdc.fios.verizon.net) [21:13:15] *** Parts: aboutGod (~aboutGod@static-72-66-66-50.washdc.fios.verizon.net) ()