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[19:55:01] <Massa> Hi everybody - somewhere online which has a iPod 6G (Fat)?
[19:55:21] <Massa> somewhere = someone ;-)
[19:58:18] <Massa> I have problems installing the rockbox bootloader - the USB disk mode does not work - no drive letter...
[19:59:45] <Massa> I used the v8-designware version
[20:01:13] <Massa> the web page says, that the bootloader USB mode uses the "new driver" and should work fine - it does not here...
[20:25:53] <Massa> I have to leave for an hour or so - will come back later
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[21:21:34] <Massa> hello again - anybody here?
[21:27:00] <user890104> hello
[21:43:24] <Massa> do you have an iPod 6G (fat)? Or at least experience with USB drivers in Rockbox / Bootloader?
[21:45:47] <user890104> i am one of the emCORE developers
[21:46:11] <user890104> and you most likely downloaded it from my page at freemyipod.org
[21:47:05] <Massa> yes - it was called "Rockbox Bootloader" :-)
[21:48:32] <Massa> I used the v8-designware (Beta) version and had no success in using the USB from bootloader - although the web page said "shoud work fine" ;-)
[21:50:15] <user890104> which operating system are you using?
[21:51:33] <user890104> is apple disk mode working well for you?
[21:51:48] <Massa> I tried it with WinXP and with Win10  - the device said "USB bootloader mode" (or similar) but no drive letter appears (and no error message)
[21:51:59] <Massa> yes, the apple disk mode works well
[21:52:47] <Massa> Even inside RockBox I have some problems with the USB mode - it works the first time but when I disconnect from PC, it fails and says that I should reboot the device...
[21:53:11] <Massa> the device is a iPod 6G with 160GB (FAT)
[21:53:19] <user890104> the usb mode inside rockbox is using an older driver, which has some issues
[21:53:29] <user890104> the final goal is to replace it with the new driver
[21:53:41] <user890104> but at the moment, it is only active in the bootloader usb mode
[21:53:55] <user890104> which does not work for you for some reason...
[21:54:03] <user890104> prof_wolfff is the main developer of the rockbox bootloader
[21:54:42] <Massa> yes, and I want to provide information to help make it work - even on my device :-)
[21:54:46] <user890104> if you leave your chat window open for a while, he shoud see your question and suggest what you could do
[21:55:06] <Massa> BTW, the channel log does not work since 2013?
[21:55:11] <user890104> yes, that would be helpful, but i'm not sure what you should do next
[21:55:16] <user890104> yes, i know about that
[21:55:32] <user890104> there are logs, but not sorted and published
[21:55:55] <user890104> it's a hobby project, we try to focus on the important things
[21:56:07] <[Saint]> Should probably just nuke that from the topic.
[21:56:38] <user890104> well, i don't have access to change it
[21:56:52] <user890104> Farthen is the channel owner i think
[21:56:55] <user890104> or 7
[21:57:03] <Massa> Of course...
[21:57:14] <[Saint]> TheSeven is.
[21:57:33] <user890104> yup
[21:57:38] <Massa> I mean "of course it's a hobby project which focus on the important things" :-)
[21:57:55] <[Saint]> And, there's no successor - which is...interesting.
[21:57:59] <user890104> the topis is about 5 years old :)
[21:58:03] <user890104> topic*
[21:58:14] <user890104> [21:08:54] * Set by Farthen on Fri Apr 15 11:37:13 2011
[21:58:19] <[Saint]> You should be set as successor at the very least so we have a valid case to claim the channel.
[21:58:30] <Massa> I was just wondering because I was in the cannel a few hours ago and had to log off - after logging in I wanted to look what happened in between..
[21:58:39] <user890104> i can try bringing the logs to a usable/searchable format
[21:58:49] <[Saint]> well, I'll be here, if you do.
[21:58:51] <[Saint]> Prod me.
[21:59:04] <[Saint]> My client/core setup is distributed.
[21:59:14] <[Saint]> If my internet is up, I'm always here.
[21:59:20] <[Saint]> (and therefore logging)
[21:59:58] <user890104> my bouncer logs the channels all the time, that's where i'll try to resurrect the last 3-4 years of data
[22:00:48] <Massa> BTW, I tried emcore and rockbox with my device a few years ago - but it was almost not usable (had to reformat the harddisk at that time and also had massive USB connecting problems)
[22:01:14] <user890104> the usb issues is what prevents most people from using it
[22:01:30] <[Saint]> those people are universally on Windows hosts.
[22:01:40] <[Saint]> ...unsurprisingly.
[22:02:14] <Massa> does it work with linux hosts?
[22:02:14] <[Saint]> and having to format the HDD was an absolutely required step back then.
[22:02:17] <[Saint]> Nothing unusual.
[22:02:24] <[Saint]> The installer forced format.
[22:02:29] <[Saint]> and, yes, yes it does.
[22:03:27] <Massa> in the past id did not for me - very often the device hanged during file transfer - even when using a linux host...
[22:03:58] <[Saint]> sounds like your device has some serious issues then.
[22:04:04] <[Saint]> that is very highly unusual.
[22:04:39] <[Saint]> all the cases you list not working points to a single common factor, the device itself.
[22:05:43] <Massa> seems so - but with my old iTunes version it works without problems.
[22:07:28] <Massa> To my shame I nowadays use very seldom Linux - only on servers or on embedded devices
[22:08:34] <[Saint]> It isn't shameful to use what works for you.
[22:08:52] <[Saint]> Though I certainly hope that XP machine is either deceased or entirely airgapped.
[22:09:02] <[Saint]> preferably the former.
[22:11:24] <Massa> it's a VM which only has access to the host system - it's also my "iTunes VM" :-)
[22:20:49] <prof_wolfff> Massa: i would try to use linux to see if the logs shows something, the latest builds of RB (from a week or so) includes the new designware driver
[22:22:52] <user890104> prof_wolfff: is it included already? i missed that
[22:23:08] <user890104> so no trace of the old driver on the classics and nano2g?
[22:23:11] <prof_wolfff> yes it was commited a few days ago for Classic and Nano2g
[22:23:29] <user890104> nice, i'll test it on both models
[22:23:41] <user890104> (if my n2g manages to power up)
[22:24:01] <prof_wolfff> i am preparing a patch to sync latest commits with gerrit bootloader