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03:54 < cmwslw-nb> #freemyipod-chatter
04:00 < cmwslw-nb> i should have the wiki redirected by tonight. i just have to get some other things sorted out first
04:03 < cmwslw-nb> and i see the theme was upgraded to the fancy new wikipedia one - nice!
04:04 < cmwslw-nb> and an awesome sidebar! that will be useful
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05:40 < angelwolf71885> umm hello.. will the linux4nano channel be abandoned?
05:41 < cmwslw-nb> yep
05:41 < angelwolf71885> ok lol
05:41 < angelwolf71885> thank you
05:42 < angelwolf71885> things are starting to get more intersting each day praticly one update a day lol
05:43 < angelwolf71885> the main web page is going to be switched to freemyipod as well correct?
05:43 < cmwslw-nb> it is as of an hour ago
05:44 < cmwslw-nb> and yes the project relaunch has really motivated everyone. it was definitely a good descision
05:44 < angelwolf71885> ok lol because i just check the main page NOT the wiki and it still have the linux4nano domain >.>
05:45 < cmwslw-nb> yea don't check that. its never updated
05:45 < angelwolf71885> im glad because calling the project was really a big misnomer
05:45 < cmwslw-nb> just check at freemyipod.org thats always going to be the most up to date
05:45 < angelwolf71885> ok lol.. i just keep an eye on the wiki
05:48 < angelwolf71885> is there any addishanial info you can explain about that ebaios stuff.. is it gunna be the first code loaded and then openloader?
05:50 < cmwslw-nb> well it will replace iLoader
05:50 < cmwslw-nb> but basically it was made as a better debugger and a way to centralize all the drivers
05:52 < angelwolf71885> oh ok.. so its replaceing both ibugger and iloader?
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05:52 < angelwolf71885> or is ibugger just for memory and HW maping?
05:53 < cmwslw-nb> thats the plan, but ibugger will still be useful to start things though
05:53 < angelwolf71885> ah i see very intersting :D
05:53 < angelwolf71885> thank you for the info
05:53 < cmwslw-nb> any time
06:02 < angelwolf71885> umm what happend to the willing testers page?
06:02 < cmwslw-nb> we didn't need it
06:03 < cmwslw-nb> for the logs: i got the wiki moved over, but it still has trouble redirecting from existing links to pages on the wiki
06:04 < cmwslw-nb> idk why this is. anyways i'll look into it tomorrow (when i'm not wakeboarding) and also work on the things i said i was going to today but didn't have time
06:04 < angelwolf71885> ok lol.. yah i guess anyone whos truely intersted visits the wiki and irc anyway lol
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06:04 < angelwolf71885> lol thats ok.. no issues its nice chatting :)
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10:54 < Utchybann> hi
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11:18 < benedikt93> Farthen: just to let you know, I get a blank page when trying to access the wiki
11:18 < benedikt93> like two hours ago it worked
11:18 < Farthen> benedikt93: yes, it'll work again in a minute
12:26 < benedikt93> TheSeven: As I doesn't really make sens for me to continue with the 3G at the moment when serpilliere is already a step further, I thought I could write the emBIOS python utility.
12:27 < benedikt93> Concerning the USB endpoints of it: are their numbers 1-4 in the order in the wiki?
12:32 < TheSeven> no
12:32 < TheSeven> the endpoint numbers are contained in the interface descriptor in the order specified in the wiki
12:49 < TheSeven> benedikt93: http://pastebin.com/dPyXm921
12:49 < TheSeven> this is my libibugger fork i'm currently working with
12:50 < TheSeven> it's mostly a matter of adjusting the libibugger remnants and implementing the additional commands
14:41 < benedikt93> TheSeven: Are there limits on what can be written using DMA (only 4 byte blocks / adresses) except the length?
14:42 < TheSeven> size shouldn't matter
14:42 < TheSeven> but alignment might
14:42 < TheSeven> to be safe, you should only do dma on 16byte-aligned blocks
14:42 < TheSeven> iirc i'm currently enforcing 4-byte-alignment, which should be changed
14:43 < TheSeven> it might also make sense to issue a single non-dma-write to align the rest for huge non-aligned transfers
14:43 < benedikt93> ok
14:44 < TheSeven> and there's another difference: while non-dma transfers are done atomically (and thus are guaranteed to be consistent), dma transfers aren't. if the memory range being transferred is being accessed on the ipod at the same time, you might get a weird mix of old/new data
14:45 < benedikt93> any way to prevent this?
14:45 < TheSeven> do non-dma transfers :)
14:45 < benedikt93> an argument to stop all threads during this?
14:46 < Farthen> this would make dma transfers pointless
14:46 < TheSeven> the caller should do that if wanted
14:46 < benedikt93> so some <force_non_dma> arg?
14:46 < TheSeven> Farthen: they would still be faster than non-dma
14:46 < Farthen> ok
14:47 < TheSeven> if the caller wants to do an atomic transfer, it should lock the scheduler itself before attempting it
14:50 < benedikt93> TheSeven, what's the sense of those arguments for write in libembios: offset, data, *range ? Isn't this twice the same?
14:51 < TheSeven> range is an optional argument to specify that not the whole data string but only a certain range of it should be written, to avoid the need for the caller to slice it (performance9
14:51 < TheSeven> (performance)*
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16:35 < benedikt93> TheSeven: should I upload my work (though it's not yet finished) somewhere?
16:36 < benedikt93> gotta go now. bye :)
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17:42 < cmwslw> I haven't had Internet at home but I've been working on 4g USB
17:43 < cmwslw> haven't tested it yet. just trying to get it to compile first
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