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18:45 < teuf> TheSeven: no classic update, but they didn't kill it yet either
18:45 < TheSeven> yep
18:46 < TheSeven> but the new nano is just crazy
18:46 < teuf> crazy in a right way ?
18:47 < Farthen> IMHO it is a big fail
18:47 < teuf> I'd like to try it
18:47 < Farthen> they dropped the clickwheel
18:47 < teuf> yeah I saw that
18:47 < teuf> but it might be fun :)
18:48 < Farthen> if you think so
18:49 < teuf> but yeah maybe I'd hate it
18:49 < TheSeven> if anything, one should get an ipod touch
18:50 < TheSeven> the touchscreen of the nano is just too small to be usable
18:50 < TheSeven> and i'm shocked that it didn't get a capacity upgrade
18:50 < teuf> yep, I hoped for a 32GB nano too
18:51 < teuf> the touch looks slick with the retina display
18:51 < Farthen> IMHO the nano 4g is still the best ipod nano ever. but sure, the touch is not that much bigger anymore
18:52 < teuf> the 5g is nice too
18:52 < teuf> is it you who don't like the larger screen on it ?
18:54 * TheSeven also has some doubts concerning usability, with that position of the clickwheel
18:54 < Farthen> i don't like the colors and i don't like the fact that the clickwheel is so much at the bottom
18:55 < teuf> k
18:55 < teuf> I wonder if the new nano runs iOS or not
18:55 < TheSeven> it surely willl
18:55 < TheSeven> -l
18:55 < teuf> then I hope they didn't use the ipad hash ;)
18:55 < Farthen> IIRC he said it will
18:56 < teuf> I doubt they put an A4 in it at least
18:57 < Farthen> that would draw too much power i think
19:10 < Farthen> "New nano *not* running iOS, according to rep at demo room. #apple"
19:11 < teuf> ah cool, maybe the OS it similar to the nano5g then
19:11 < teuf> I mean, the filesystem layout and song database
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19:26 < benedikt93> hmm
19:26 < benedikt93> no click wheels anymore?
19:26 < teuf> still on the classic
19:26 < benedikt93> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Frische-iPods-von-Apple-Update-1071021.html  (german!)
19:29 < benedikt93> so, the cam wasn't that succesful. otherwise they won't have removed it
19:30 < teuf> I hadn't even realized it was gone
19:31 < benedikt93> I'm not sure, nut they don't list with the other features
19:31 < benedikt93> *but
19:32 < teuf> it's not on the pics, so probably gone
19:32 < teuf> http://images.apple.com/ipodnano/images/overview_gallery_silver20100901.jpg
19:33 < benedikt93> IMO, they did a bit too small
19:33 < teuf> and no accelerometer, that's lame :(
19:33 < benedikt93> and I don't say them listing that it can play videos
19:33 < benedikt93> it does have an accel
19:33 < benedikt93> http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/specs.html
19:33 < funman> ah the website is updated
19:34 < teuf> ah that's weird that it doesn't automatically rotate the screen then
19:34 < benedikt93> you can rotate it with your fingers
19:34 < benedikt93> http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/design.html  on the bottom
19:34 < benedikt93> but a square screen...
19:35 < benedikt93> I'll stay with my N3G...
19:35 < teuf> yeah I know it can be rotated with fingers
19:35 < teuf> but that's weird imo
19:35 < teuf> tey show it a lot in the ad
19:35 < teuf> and indeed, video seems gone
19:36 < benedikt93> BAD idea
19:36 < teuf> dunno if lots of people watch video on nanos
19:36 < benedikt93> maybe they don't have much to present except multi-touch
19:36 < teuf> I never could be bothered to put videos on my classic
19:36 < benedikt93> yeah, but they could still let the feature in the software
19:37 < benedikt93> I had some on mine
19:37 < benedikt93> (you know, movies during lessons can make time less boring xD)
19:44 < benedikt93> according to this, it turns the screen:  http://www.cnet.de/blogs/alpha/mp3/41537145/neuer+ipod+nano+6g+quadratischer+apple_player+mit+touchscreen_+aber+ohne+kamera.htm
19:46 < funman> "Clip - no more armbands"
19:46 < funman> stupid me, i was putting the players in my pockets
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21:35 < user890104> why is the Status wiki page locked
21:35 < user890104> i'd like to add the 6g nano
21:41 < Farthen> that's just because there has been vandalism some months ago
21:42 < user890104> on the ipod discussion above: can't wait for the ifixit.com guys to get some of the new apple gadgets and publish some teardowns
21:44 < Farthen> and i don't even know if we want to support the 6g nano
21:44 < Farthen> that would mean changing the welcome text "Freemyipod is a project for reverse-engineering iPods with clickwheel..." xD
21:45 < Farthen> the 6g nano should definitely be a target for us and not for some iphone people but still this may be something completely different
21:46 < Farthen> (and i don't like it, but that is of course only my opinion)
21:46 < user890104> well, if it doesn't use the A4 processor, it should be some of the S5L series
21:46 < user890104> just guessing
21:48 < user890104> i wonder how do you enter DFU mode on the new nano, there aren't any manuals yet
21:49 < Farthen> i wonder if there is something like disk mode on this thing
21:50 < Farthen> or if this device has no direct flash access at all
21:50 < Farthen> well, i added it to the wiki. we could still remove it if we think we don't like to do that one :)
21:51 < Farthen> maybe the jailbreak approach would be easier there (so let us run any apps on apples os and not make something entirely different like port rockbox)
21:52 < user890104> the new nano actually *has* an accelerometer
21:53 < user890104> http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/specs.html in the left column, below the pic
21:53 < user890104> well, i suggest leaving it as a reference that it's not supported
22:00 < user890104> it has some volume keys, maybe there would be some combos for disk mode/dfu/diag mode
22:00 < user890104> and a sleep/wake button, too
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