--- Log opened Thu Sep 02 00:41:09 2010
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01:19 < binavik> Can someone help me download the newest iLoader installer? I tried the link at the iLoader homepage but it says that it is no longer available.
01:20 < TheSeven> hm
01:24 * TheSeven wonders if he's dumb
01:25 < TheSeven> binavik: should be working again
01:26 < binavik> It's working again. Thanks.
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13:18 < benedikt93> awww ... awful new iTunes logo -.-
13:23 < GaveUp> s/logo//
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14:23 < Farthen> i did not know that it was possible to make the volume slider that awful as it is now
14:23 < kyle6513> hm?
14:23 * Farthen feels more like he downgraded than upgraded
14:23 < Farthen> (iTunes 10)
14:24 < kyle6513> ah
14:24 * kyle6513 hates itunes with a passion
14:25 < Farthen> i actually like the principle of the media library and so on. but it more and more developed into some piece of crap
14:25 < kyle6513> media library is on more than itunes
14:26 < kyle6513> obviously
14:26 * TheSeven 's iPod hasn't seen iTunes a single time so far :)
14:26 < kyle6513> TheSeven, what do you use?
14:27 * Farthen *still* prefers itunes over other software... but that's offtopic actually
14:27 < TheSeven> rockbox :) so I don't need a library manager
14:27 < kyle6513> rockbox is software? O.o
14:27 < TheSeven> before rockbox was working i used sharepod or floola, or a tool I wrote myself, depending on the job to be done
14:28 < kyle6513> ohh
14:28 * TheSeven wonders if kyle6513 thinks that rockbox would be hardware? :P
14:28 < kyle6513> haha no, when I said software I meant on an operating system like linux,
14:28 < kyle6513> then I realised.
14:29 < teuf> on linux you can use rhythmbox, amarok, gtkpod, banshee, maybe gnupod, ...
14:29 < kyle6513> yeah
14:29 < kyle6513> I use winamp, :)
14:30 < teuf> their plugin is free software iirc ?
14:30 < teuf> or did they write a non free one
14:30 < teuf> I forgot
14:30 < kyle6513> winamp is a windows application
14:30 < teuf> yeah I know
14:30 < kyle6513> its more freeware with a donation feature
14:30 < kyle6513> donation enables conversion
14:31 < kyle6513> thats about it
14:31 < teuf> but I know of http://mlipod.sourceforge.net/
14:31 < teuf> I can't remember if that's the recommended plugin these days
14:31 < teuf> ah ok
14:31 < teuf> Important note: A new style of iPod support called pmp_ipod is built into Winamp version 5.2 and above
14:31 < kyle6513> the ipod support comes with winamp
14:31 < kyle6513> you just right click on your songs and send to ipod
14:31 < kyle6513> :P
14:32 < kyle6513> although the main problem with winamp is the album art searching
14:32 < kyle6513> but if you dont have a pirated music collection you wouldnt have to worry about that :P
14:32 < teuf> depends, if you rip stuff from CDs, you have that issue
14:32 < teuf> actually, I tend to have more covers for stuff I downloaded than for the CDs I ripped
14:33 < kyle6513> haha yeah
14:33 * TheSeven likes MusicBrainz for tagging and album art
14:34 < kyle6513> I grabbed all my music off another person who doesnt believe in the use of folders T-T
14:34 < kyle6513> winamp also has an autotag feature
14:34 < TheSeven> winamp is using gracenote, which doesn't seem to be as accurate as musicbrainz/musicip
14:34 < kyle6513> just album art is a secondary un-noticed feature
14:35 < kyle6513> yeah, I have noticed some are tagged wrong =<
14:35 < kyle6513> remixes are the worst, theres never anything useful for them
14:35 * TheSeven suggests picard and jaikoz for tagging
14:36 < kyle6513> awhile back I tried all these and they all seemed to crash at my 5000 songs, might have been my computer at the time though
14:36 < TheSeven> that many songs at a time aren't a good idea anyway
14:36 < kyle6513> heh :P
14:36 < kyle6513> since it took so long I wanted to go watch a movie
14:36 < TheSeven> i usually do it in packages of ~1000
14:36 < kyle6513> didnt pan out
14:37 < kyle6513> I might aswell retag everything
14:37 < kyle6513> does either of them re-sort your folders?
14:38 < TheSeven> afaik they only deal with the tags
14:38 < TheSeven> but once those are correct, you can use mp3find to clean up the folder structure
14:38 < TheSeven> that tool is really great for all kinds of batch jobs on music collections
14:39 < kyle6513> mp3find is a windows application?
14:39 < TheSeven> yes
14:39 < kyle6513> ah, alright thanks
14:39 < TheSeven> it can also do things like hunt for duplicates based on audio content, not tags
14:40 < kyle6513> thats great!
14:40 < kyle6513> I have so many duplicates due to artists releasing the same song in about 3 albums
14:40 < TheSeven> the gui is a bit complicated though :P
14:40 < kyle6513> heh
14:40 < kyle6513> isnt it commandline?
14:40 < TheSeven> nope, it has a gui
14:40 < kyle6513> i remember seeing something like it in a command line
14:40 < TheSeven> it's some kind of trivial dj software with some cleanup features
14:41 < kyle6513> hm.
14:41 < TheSeven> the cleanup features are the only part of it I ever used :)
14:41 < kyle6513> ahh its in dutch or german
14:41 < TheSeven> (and probably the majority of users)
14:41 < TheSeven> no english version available? that would be a shame...
14:41 < TheSeven> btw, this discussion should probably move to #freemyipod-chatter
14:41 < kyle6513> alright then
15:32 < kyle6513> brb
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17:47 < fmibot> New commit by 3theseven (r186): Fix a really silly libipodcrypto bug that caused header corruption
17:47 < fmibot> r186 build result: All green!
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19:13 < fmibot> New commit by 3theseven (r187): Some leftovers...
19:13 < fmibot> r187 build result: All green!
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