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00:48 < mulenmar> TheSeven: I got it apart. You're probably not here, but the NAND flash chip is definitely an HY27UV08AG5M.
01:24 < mulenmar> I set my multimeter to DC V 2000m -- pretty sure that's 2000mV, but i've lost the manual -- and measured from the pin you indicated to the dock connector.
01:24 < mulenmar> Meter read "065"
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03:00 < [Saint]> At this point, [Saint] wishes to add that he has successfully swapped NAND chip in an iPod2G...but *really* doesn't reccommend it...for sanitys sake.
03:01 < [Saint]> it was a FUCKING pita
03:01 < [Saint]> errr...s/iPod2G/iPod Nano2G/
03:02 < mulenmar> Yeah, it was tricky enough just to measure the volatage at that pin, without trying to remove the chip.
03:04 < mulenmar> If I thought my skills were good enough to swap memory chips, I would've bumped my old Xbox to 128MB of ram. 8~P
03:04 < [Saint]> be *real* carefull about de-heading the screws on the metal plate underneath the plastic cap that serves as the hold switch...up the top.
03:04 < mulenmar> I'm just going to wait for whoever TheSeven was referring to as "the hardware guru" to get back to them.
03:05 < [Saint]> Strip those and you'll never get it open again.
03:05 < [Saint]> I have one like that now, :-/
03:05 < mulenmar> [Saint] I already dissassembled everything successfully.
03:05 < [Saint]> yeah, I know...but, in my experience you only get to do that a few times.
03:05 < mulenmar> And then moved on to my failed, is-now-only-good-as-salvage netbook.
03:06 < [Saint]> though...not like you have any reason to put it back together :)
03:06 < mulenmar> [Saint] Which is why it's not going back together until/unless I replace that chip -- which is unlikely.
03:07 < [Saint]> heat gun, *very* fine soldring iron...it's possible.
03:07 < [Saint]> but, difficult.
03:07 < mulenmar> As TheSeven said, "basically you have a nice little device with 176KB of SRAM, 32MB of SDRAM and 1MB of flash now"
03:07 < mulenmar> I can use it to learn C/C++ on, I guess, and learn about ARM architecture at the same time.
03:08 < mulenmar> But this is really more offtopic than I feel discussing here. . .
03:09 < mulenmar> s/this/that
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06:32 < [Saint]> TheSeven: Did "The Hardware Guru" get back to you re: mul-en-whatever-the-name-is' Nano2G?
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10:36 * TheSeven tries to catch up
10:38 < TheSeven> hm, so the /WP pin is definitely the culprit, not the flash chip
10:38 < TheSeven> and no, stooo didn't respond yet
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10:40 < TheSeven> [12:36] * TheSeven tries to catch up
10:40 < TheSeven> [12:39] <TheSeven> hm, so the /WP pin is definitely the culprit, not the flash chip
10:40 < TheSeven> [12:39] <TheSeven> and no, stooo didn't respond yet
10:44 < TheSeven> mulenmar (for the logs): now that you've opened it, you could also unbrick it if you would flash non-working code
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18:18 < DarkStar851> Don't suppose anyone knows where I could find the original firmware .bin for the iPod Nano 2nd Generation (2gb, US) model? I've managed to brick my device. ;(
18:22 < Farthen> DarkStar851: you can't brick those devices
18:22 < Farthen> well you can but not that easily
18:22 < Farthen> what did you do? install iloader?
18:23 < TheSeven> what *exactly* did you do, and how is the ipod behaving right now?
18:24 < DarkStar851> I wiped the entire partition map, iLoader corrupted and a restore from iTunes didn't repair it.
18:25 < TheSeven> you're using iloader 0.2.x and it's complaining about a missing or corrupted theme?
18:25 < DarkStar851> Yeah, and there's no "Press ___ to uninstall iLoader."
18:26 < TheSeven> then it's not 0.2.x
18:26 < DarkStar851> I didn't realize you were still on this project TheSeven, I used to idle around the IRC ages ago back when it was a manual installation to make everything work.
18:26 < DarkStar851> Hm,
18:26 < TheSeven> however, you should be able to fix this by unpacking a theme again
18:26 < DarkStar851> So just unpack a theme archive to the second partition?
18:26 < TheSeven> to the fat32 partition, whereever it is.
18:27 < DarkStar851> Well with typical structure, the second. ;)
18:27 < TheSeven> and as this is apparently an old version, you might need to use an old theme
18:27 < DarkStar851> Hm.. is there an archive of archives? Haha.
18:27 < TheSeven> http://dl.the-seven.tk/ipod/iloader/themes/iloader-theme-default-0.1.2.zip
18:28 < DarkStar851> Cool, thanks a lot. I'll try and see if this works.
18:28 < DarkStar851> How would I update to the latest iLoader anywyas?
18:28 < DarkStar851> *anyways
18:29 < TheSeven> see the updating instructions. you can follow them as usual (with the alternative update.cfg), but you'll need to update the theme afterwards (to a 0.2.x one)
18:29 < DarkStar851> Makes sense.
18:29 < DarkStar851> Sweet, the loader seems to be working again with that older theme.
18:30 < DarkStar851> This all started when the file system became corrupt the other day and started going into Read-only mode by the way. I'm not sure if it was an iLoader issue, but I don't think it was due to physical failure as I rarely use it.
18:43 < DarkStar851> Hmm.. I just selected Update iLoader, but it's not doing anything...
18:43 < DarkStar851> (It's been "not doing anything" for about five minutes now.)
18:44 < TheSeven> the only explanation I have for that is the installer file being corrupted
18:45 < DarkStar851> Fair enough, I'll try wgetting the file again.
18:45 < TheSeven> you're using the update.cfg for v0.1.x, right?
18:45 < DarkStar851> Yeah.
18:48 < DarkStar851> Yay, that worked. Must've been a corrupt installer bin like you suggested.
18:48 < DarkStar851> Strange, I don't get corrupted files very often, especially on smaller downloads. :s
18:51 < DarkStar851> The new emBIOS is certainly a lot faster than the 0.1.2 loading method! I should've upgraded long ago. ;D
18:51 < TheSeven> it could also just have been a one-in-10-times bootup screwup, like i'm seeing it rather often with disk mode
18:51 < TheSeven> disk mode keeps locking up before even clearing the lcd like one in three times for me
18:54 < DarkStar851> Hmm,
18:54 < DarkStar851> Any notable debugging references?
18:54 < DarkStar851> Seems like the kind of error that'd be throwing stuff like crazy.
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