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05:41 < peidaqi> anyone online?
05:41 < peidaqi> have anyone tried the current ipodduf with iPod classic 1G?
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10:19 < TheSeven> hm, apparently he doesn't read the logs...
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14:03 < peidaqi> anyone tried ipoddfu with ipod classic 1g?
14:10 < TheSeven> [11:22] <TheSeven> peidaqi_ (for the logs): This means that the iPod has rejected the DFU image because of an invalid signature
14:10 < peidaqi> sorry liar just told me how to look at the logs
14:10 < peidaqi> I'm a complete IRC newbie... :/
14:10 < peidaqi> :(
14:12 < peidaqi> however I'm curious about how this happened. I guess ipoddfu worked for you, and I'd suppose all ipod classics are using the exact same IPL and bootrom code?
14:26 < TheSeven> i'd guess so, yes
14:26 < TheSeven> what payload did you upload with it?
14:28 < peidaqi> Newest built bin for ipod classic
14:29 < peidaqi> r317 from the buildserver
14:29 < TheSeven> an embios binary? that can't work
14:29 < peidaqi> oh... ok....
14:29 < TheSeven> first of all, you need something that's signed by apple (but possibly hacked up a bit using the pwnage exploit :P )
14:29 < TheSeven> secondly, embios won't be able to directly boot through DFU
14:30 < peidaqi> hmmm... i'm confused...
14:30 < TheSeven> i must admit that currently not all tools required to run embios are released freely yet
14:31 < TheSeven> you'll need the pwned x1223 DFU image (containing an ibugger loader), a slightly modified embios loader (that returns into ibugger loader instead of loading embios from the flash), and an embios build
14:31 < peidaqi> well... so the most critical part... the payload's not released?...  :O
14:32 < TheSeven> the tool to generate it is released (but not in our svn), however not the resulting binary isn't, as it contains material apple might have a copyright on
14:32 < TheSeven> you need to get the x1223 DFU image from phobos and patch it with fucc
14:33 < TheSeven> then implant an ibugger loader into it, and upload that via DFU
14:33 < peidaqi> so it's a patched firmware?
14:33 < TheSeven> one could possibly inject embios loader directly without that many indirections, but i haven't got around to doing that yet
14:34 < TheSeven> there's not much left of the DFU image besides apple's signature
14:34 < peidaqi> hmmm.... based on my meager knowledge on iDevice hacking, i'd suppose that's part of the firmware image apple releases?
14:35 < TheSeven> yes
14:35 < TheSeven> or rather recovery boot image
14:35 < TheSeven> i'll hopefully come up with something more usable during the next weeks
14:35 < peidaqi> that makes sense. so it's pwned instead of an exploit like the blackra1n/spirit series on iPhone
14:36 < TheSeven> it works quite similar, just that we are replacing the firmware completely instead of only patching some sigchecks out
14:36 < peidaqi> but since the firmware can be decrypted using pwnage, the binary assembly should be right available for some IDA analysis?
14:36 < TheSeven> yes, we have decrypted most things :)
14:37 < peidaqi> that sounds pretty close to getting the LCD/click wheel working :D
14:37 < TheSeven> that has already happened :)
14:37 < TheSeven> (did i forget to update the status page again?)
14:38 < TheSeven> hm, no, this time i indeed updated it :)
14:38 < peidaqi> yeah, indeed. sounds like lots of progress has been made ... and only in these couple of days! :D
14:39 < peidaqi> you guys (girls) are really amazing!
14:39 < TheSeven> well, i don't know of any girls involved so far...
14:39 < Farthen> neither i do xD
14:39 < TheSeven> you seem to have a bit of background knowledge on hacking?
14:40 < peidaqi> well, spent some time on Palm/WinCE/iOS devices
14:41 < TheSeven> would you want to dig into the bootrom's signature validation code and check if we can somehow get rid of apple's DFU image and create it from scratch instead?
14:41 < peidaqi> and worked for the evil M for a while for their W-Mobile systems
14:41 < peidaqi> :p
14:42 < peidaqi> sure i'd like to help if i can
14:42 < TheSeven> oh yeah, good old windows mobile... it's a shame that it died. but that's probably a topic for #freemyipod-chatter
14:43 < Farthen> do you own other ipods than the classic 1g?
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14:53 < peidaqi_> TheSeven
14:53 < peidaqi_> can you send me the links again?
14:53 < peidaqi_> somehow my root directory is inaccessible from ubuntu...
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22:16 < puck_> hi :)
22:17 < puck_> somebody not idel?
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22:22  * TheSeven loves those very very patient guys :)
22:26 < Dreamxtreme> heh
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