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00:04 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r369): iLoader: Fix loading files from non-memmapped boot flashes. Why doesn't GCC at least warn here!?
00:05 < fmibot> r369 build result: All green!
00:06 < TheSeven> ok, that fixed number one from above
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00:06 < TheSeven> but there's still number two, and additionally the backlight now doesn't work any more in umsboot
00:07 < TheSeven> weird kind of bugs today...
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02:25 < Arura> hello. I'm looking for help with an i-phone and i know this is an ipod channel but i was wondering if any of you had an iphone channel that i could go to to ask questions.
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13:09 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r370): embios.py: Fix a syntax error
13:09 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r371): iLoader: Add rockbox checksum parameters for iPod Classic
13:09 < fmibot> r370 build result: All green!
13:10 < fmibot> r371 build result: All green!
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13:17  * TheSeven wonders why umsboot sometimes just goes nuts
13:18 < TheSeven> apparently only on the classic though
14:01 < TheSeven> /me hates bugs that go away if one adds debugging code
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18:52 < Stephencc__> congrats TheSeven on your recent progress
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19:42 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r372): UMSboot: Fix backlight on iPod Classic
19:42 < TheSeven> now *that* was a hard-to-catch bug...
19:42 < fmibot> r372 build result: All green!
19:45 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r373): UMSboot: Fix LCD lockup problems on iPod Classic
19:46 < fmibot> r373 build result: All green!
19:50  * TheSeven calls for testers with an ipod classic :)
19:50  * Stephencc__ calls to TheSeven 
19:50 < TheSeven> but so far only for people who don't use it as a music player any more
19:50 < Stephencc__> hmmmm i can use my other players
19:50 < TheSeven> once you install this stuff, there is no easy way back
19:51 < Stephencc__> should i wait till there is ? or is there a chance of bricking ?
19:51 < TheSeven> the first step (which is most important to me) is volatile, so you can easily do that
19:51 < TheSeven> the second step will flash away the apple bootloader
19:51 < Stephencc__> no dualboot ?
19:51 < TheSeven> not yet
19:52 < TheSeven> you can't brick those, you can just make it harder to get them working again
19:52 < Stephencc__> does it matter that mine is the ce-ata drive ?
19:52  * TheSeven needs to check how itunes behaves if it finds an iloader'ed ipod classic
19:52 < TheSeven> oh, ce-ata isn't implemented yet
19:52 < TheSeven> so you can only test the first stage anyway
19:52 < Stephencc__> what will the first stage get me ?
19:52 < TheSeven> http://files.freemyipod.org/misc/bootstrap-ipodclassic.dfu
19:53 < TheSeven> Stephencc__: basically the ability to execute arbitrary second-stack code :)
19:53 < Stephencc__> can i still boot to the ipod with first stage ?
19:53 < TheSeven> you'll need the usual tools (libusb, python, pyusb, ipoddfu.py)
19:53 < TheSeven> yes
19:53 < Stephencc__> ie play music ?
19:53 < TheSeven> the first stage only boots some kind of uploading tool via the bootrom's DFU mode
19:54 < Stephencc__> am on ubuntu can i do it on that ?
19:54 < TheSeven> this won't survive a reset :)
19:54 < TheSeven> yes
19:54 < TheSeven> but you'll probably have to mess a bit with python 2.6 vs. 3.1
19:54 < TheSeven> other ubuntu users have reported issues with that
19:54 < TheSeven> it might work if you make sure that you use python 2.6 all the time
19:55 < Stephencc__> says i have 2.6
19:56 < Stephencc__> how do i load that .dfu file ?
19:57 < Stephencc__> ah do i need to checkout the freemyipod source etcv ?
19:57 < Stephencc__> etc*
20:14 < TheSeven> haha
20:15 < TheSeven> i just plugged my flashed ipod in dfu mode into an itunes pc
20:15 < TheSeven> guess what, itunes claims that it's too old to restore that kind of ipod :)
20:15 < TheSeven> so we should be safe from that as well
20:16 < TheSeven> Stephencc__: if you just want to use the binaries provided by us, you'll only need the /embios/trunk/tools subtree
20:16 < TheSeven> you'll need the newest pyusb alpha: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyusb/files/PyUSB 1.0/1.0.0-alpha-0/pyusb-1.0.0-a0.zip/download
20:17 < TheSeven> make sure that you use python 2.6 and run "setup.py install" in the place where you extracted that file
20:17 < TheSeven> then run "python ipoddfu.py bootstrap-ipodclassic.dfu" (with the ipod being in dfu mode)
20:17 < TheSeven> to get into dfu mode, connect via usb and hold menu+select for 10-15 seconds
20:17 < TheSeven> (until it resets the second time and stays at a black screen)
20:31 < Stephencc__> so itunes can't restore, can you still use the apple os ?
20:40 < Stephencc__> Just trying to put it into dfu mode
20:43 < Stephencc__> just keeps resetting
20:47 < TheSeven> you need to hold menu+select while it is connected until it resets the second time
20:47 < TheSeven> and no, if you apply stage two (which you can't do anyway because of ce-ata), you can't use the apple os any more until we find a way to dualboot
20:48 < Stephencc__> ok i got dfu mode working
20:48 < Stephencc__> if i apply stage one can i still use apple os or is it pointless me testing at this stage ?
20:48 < TheSeven> no, it's interesting because of the different lcd types
20:48 < TheSeven> and stage one can't really do any harm
20:49 < Stephencc__> how do i get the embios subtree ?
20:49 < Stephencc__> i have the rockbox toolchain installed here also
20:59 < TheSeven> svn co http://svn.freemyipod.org/embios/trunk/tools
21:05 < Stephencc__> ipoddfu.py not found ?
21:05 < Stephencc__> i did run svn in the pyusb folder tho
21:08 < Stephencc__> aha ipoddfu.py isn't in trunk tools, it's in a seprate tools
21:11 < Stephencc__> importerror: no module named core ?
21:11 < Stephencc__> File "/home/stephen/svn.freemyipod.org/tools/ipoddfu/libipoddfu.py", line 27, in <module>
21:11 < Stephencc__>     import usb.core
21:12 < Stephencc__> ooops will pastie next time
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21:47 < TheSeven> pastie isn't really worth it for two lines :)
21:47 < TheSeven> Stephencc__: this looks like you didn't install pyusb correctly
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21:57 < TheSeven> bugger
21:57 < TheSeven> the lcd on my classic3g doesn't work yet :/
21:57 < Stephencc__> ok ubuntu had 0.42 installed had to uninstall that. now I get the following http://pastie.org/1396289
22:00 < TheSeven> Stephencc__: you'll probably need to run that as root (sudo)
22:01 < Stephencc__> ah yes
22:01 < Stephencc__> screen has just gone white
22:02 < Stephencc__> what do I do next ?
22:03 < Stephencc__> a umsboot folder has just opened
22:03 < Stephencc__> 63.9mb in size
22:04 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r374): Oops, S5L8702 syscfg is at 0x00000 on the nor, not 0x04000
22:05 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r375): Bugger, one more place to change that...
22:05 < fmibot> r374 build result: All green!
22:06 < fmibot> r375 build result: All green!
22:16 < TheSeven> ipod classic 3g 160gb hdd size: 39072726 sectors
22:16 < TheSeven> Stephencc__: that "screen has just gone white" is what i wanted to know, and that's *not* good news...
22:16 < TheSeven> however, my classic 3g seems to have the same problem
22:17 < TheSeven> the 64MB volume you see now is the ipod's RAM
22:17 < Stephencc__> Want me to get to diag mode and test the screen number ?
22:17 < TheSeven> you can upload a *.ubi file to that and unplug it, and it will execute it
22:17 < TheSeven> i haven't seen any lcd info in diagmode
22:17 < Stephencc__> what would be a .ubi file ?
22:17 < TheSeven> the second stage :)
22:17 < Stephencc__> afaik its usually a 1 or 2 isnt it in diag mode ?
22:17 < Stephencc__> aha :)
22:18 < Stephencc__> no point in me doin that yet is there
22:19 < Stephencc__> can i just discconect this or is there anything else you want me to try run ?
22:27 < Stephencc__> in diag mode the accessorize test, lcd=1 fw_detect=0 usb_detect=0 
22:28 < TheSeven> ah, right, that's where they're hiding it :)
22:28 < TheSeven> good to know
22:28 < TheSeven> you'll need to reset it with menu+select before you can do anything else after unplugging it :)
22:28 < Stephencc__> cant seem to escape it now
22:29 < Stephencc__> got stuck in accesorize menu, so reset it with menu and select
22:29 < TheSeven> yeah, diagmode on the classic is awfully buggy
22:29 < Stephencc__> yeah it's slow to scroll aswell
22:30 < Stephencc__> fw version doesn't matter anymore does it
22:46 < TheSeven> diagmode has always been dog slow :)
22:47 < TheSeven> the classic one is one of the faster diagmodes actually :-P
22:47  * TheSeven can't look up his lcd value right now because he's backing up the ipod's raw hard disk contents
22:50 < Stephencc__> mine can't be read :(
22:50 < Stephencc__> stupid ce-ata
22:50 < Stephencc__> curse you apple
22:51 < TheSeven> i've written some completely untested code for the MMC interface
22:51 < TheSeven> however no highlevel ce-ata driver yet
22:52 < Stephencc__> ah not to worry I'm sure you will in all good time
22:52  * TheSeven is afraid that this will be one of the last things he'll care about as he can't test this anyway
22:52 < Stephencc__> waiting 3 years+ for rockbox on this thing
22:54 < Stephencc__> if you want anything tested when you do have it done just shout
22:54 < Stephencc__> i dont thing theres many 1gs about is there ?
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