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06:03 < TheSeven> wonders why Farthen didn't just suggest using dmesg instead
06:03 < TheSeven> and this smells like it was yet another occurrence of that ehci_hcd bug
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07:55 < paulo_> hello
07:56 < paulo_> anyone have news on the nano 6g?
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19:12 < nieuwbie> Farthen: Hello
19:12 < Farthen> hi
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19:13 < nieuwbie> Farthen: When I plug my ipod in in the DFU state... I get the following error.
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19:14 < nieuwbie> Farthen: http://pastebin.com/cyb7Gy3q
19:15 < Farthen> this may be some bug in umsboot
19:16 < nieuwbie> Damn.
19:16 < Farthen> unfortunately TheSeven is not around. he developed umsboot. i can't really help at this point. do you have another computer/another os around?
19:16 < nieuwbie> Farthen: Mac OS X.
19:17 < Farthen> argh, we have some serious problems with umsboot and os x
19:17 < nieuwbie> Farthen: I don't like this OS too. :P
19:19 < nieuwbie> Farthen: But there's no possibility to copy installer via dd?
19:19 < Farthen> you can install our python tools
19:19 < Farthen> it is somewhat easy on windows
19:19 < Farthen> *linux
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19:20 < Farthen> i wanted to say that it sucks on windows xD
19:20 < nieuwbie> Farthen: That's not suprise me.
19:20 < Farthen> emerge libusb python pyusb
19:20 < Farthen> that should do the trick for gentoo
19:21 < Farthen> ah, i don't know if pyusb is v0.x or v1.x
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19:21 < Farthen> we need v1.x
19:22 < Farthen> if gentoo only includes v0.x then you need to install the alpha from the sourceforge project page
19:22 < nieuwbie> Farthen: I have all packages above. There's only pyusb 0.4.3, but I installed the newest version by hand.
19:23 < Farthen> ok, 'svn co http://svn.freemyipod.org/embios/trunk/tools'
19:23 < Farthen> cd tools
19:24 < Farthen> python embios.py getinfo version
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19:27 < nieuwbie> Farthen: Doesn't work.
19:27 < Farthen> what's the problem?
19:27 < nieuwbie> Error: No emBIOS device found!
19:28 < nieuwbie> Farthen: My ipod is in DFU state.
19:28 < Farthen> ah, sorry
19:29 < nieuwbie> Farthen: No worries. ^^
19:30 < nieuwbie> Farthen: If you'll find a solution, I'll forgive you. :P
19:30 < Farthen> ok, i'll do
19:31 < nieuwbie> Farthen: Really? It would make my day.
19:31 < Farthen> i just need to put an embios image into a dfu compatible file
19:32 < TheSeven> Farthen: what are you planning to do?
19:32 < Farthen> TheSeven: putting embios into a dfu container and giving it to him ;)
19:32 < TheSeven> yes, but what's the final goal?
19:33 < nieuwbie> TheSeven: I have problem with mounting while in DFU state.
19:33 < Farthen> uploading the installer
19:33 < Farthen> circumventing the bug
19:33 < Farthen> TheSeven: where the hell did you put that dfu container thing in the SVN? i am unable to find it
19:34 < TheSeven> i don't think it's in svn
19:34 < TheSeven> somewhere on files.freemyipod.org probably
19:34 < Farthen> why not?
19:34 < nieuwbie> Farthen: http://files.freemyipod.org/misc/bootstrap-ipodclassic.dfu
19:35 < Farthen> that is something else
19:35 < nieuwbie> yyy
19:36 < nieuwbie> Farthen: installer-classic.ubi?
19:36 < TheSeven> he is looking for http://files.freemyipod.org/misc/s5l8702-container.dfu
19:37 < TheSeven> but putting embios into that is non-trivial
19:38 < nieuwbie> Farthen: Be right back, have to have shower. :) I hope you won't mind. ;)
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20:09 < nieuwbie> Farthen: I'm back. ^^
20:13 < Farthen> http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/embios-ipodclassic-r508.dfu
20:14 < nieuwbie> Farthen: ...?
20:14 < Farthen> run 'python ipoddfu.py embios-ipodclassic-r508.dfu' when in dfu mode
20:15 < nieuwbie> Farthen: Oh, I see. ^^
20:16 < Farthen> i hope that file works. i could not test that myself
20:17 < nieuwbie> Farthen: Nothing happened.
20:17 < nieuwbie> Farthen: Should I reboot my ipod?
20:17 < Farthen> did it hang your ipod?
20:17 < Farthen> argh, i fail
20:18 < nieuwbie> Farthen: I think so, because I can't reboot it.
20:18 < nieuwbie> Farthen: What should I do now?
20:18 < Farthen> whoopsie?
20:18 < Farthen> TheSeven: idea?
20:19 < Farthen> so menu+select does not do anything?
20:19 < nieuwbie> I'm afraid not.
20:21 < Farthen> unplug it and try menu+select again?
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20:22 < nieuwbie> Farthen: Nope, Windows see but not recognisinf 
20:22 < nieuwbie> the ipod.
20:23 < Farthen> windows? i thought you used gentoo
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20:24 < nieuwbie> Farthen: Also. ^^
20:24 < Farthen> do you see the usb device?
20:25 < nieuwbie> Farthen: On gentoo?
20:25 < nieuwbie> Let
20:25 < nieuwbie> me\
20:25 < nieuwbie> check
20:26 < nieuwbie> Farthen: lsusb?
20:26 < Farthen> yep
20:26 < Farthen> and kernel messages when plugging it in
20:27 < nieuwbie> Farthen: http://pastebin.com/LTBsCp8J
20:28 < Farthen> oh, it is still there
20:28 < nieuwbie> Farthen: http://pastebin.com/Ti4Ap6Bj
20:29 < nieuwbie> Farthen: Recognise it
20:29 < Farthen> can you redownload the file and run the stuff again? i fixed it (hopefully)
20:29 < nieuwbie> Farthen: Sure.
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20:35 < nieuwbie> Farthen: It return an error.
20:35 < nieuwbie> Farthen: http://pastebin.com/bMnvMLGq
20:35 < Farthen> argh
20:38 < Farthen> unfortunately the only thing i can think about is plugging it out and draining the battery :/
20:38 < Farthen> except TheSeven starts to appear again
20:38 < nieuwbie> Damn.
20:38 < Farthen> user890104: do you have any idea?
20:38 < user890104> Farthen: let me check the logs
20:39 < Farthen> user890104: dfu mode, menu+select combo does not work, ipod is hanging somewhere
20:40 < user890104> and an usb timeout when uploading code in dfu?
20:40 < nieuwbie> user890104: Amen.
20:40 < Farthen> because it hangs somewhere
20:40 < Farthen> dfu mode is not running anymore
20:42 < nieuwbie> Farthen: According to lsusb my ipod is in DFU mode, isn't it?
20:42 < nieuwbie> Farthen: idProduct is 1223
20:43 < Farthen> only because the usb controller is still configured the same way
20:43 < user890104> nieuwbie: does it show up in lsusb if you unplug it and then plug it in again?
20:43 < Farthen> but the code behind it does not run anymore :/
20:43 < nieuwbie> user890104: No. I don't think so.
20:44 < nieuwbie> user890104: Bus 002 Device 016 disappeared. 
20:45 < user890104> there is something crazy with these classics, they sometimes resist restarting on menu+select
20:45 < nieuwbie> user890104: Got it!
20:45 < user890104> so the battery draining that Farthen suggested is the only way in that case
20:46 < nieuwbie> user890104: Everything is back to normal. ^^
20:46 < Farthen> huh?
20:46 < nieuwbie> user890104: I restarted my classic.
20:46 < user890104> so you restarted it with menu+select
20:46 < Farthen> how did you manage to do it?
20:46 < user890104> or just repluging it?
20:47 < Farthen> dfu mode sometimes messes with menu+select. when plugged in the dfu mode somehow blocks this combination or stuff like that. if you plug it out again it may reset just fine
20:47 < Farthen> but that might be my only explanation
20:48 < user890104> it makes sense, because restarting during a software update can brick the ipod
20:48 < user890104> is there a "bootrom dfu" mode on these?
20:49 < nieuwbie> Farthen: I unplugged it, checked lsusb, then plugged it again to check if it'll appear, and tried menu+select.
20:49 < nieuwbie> Farthen: but it's odd, I formated it yesterday under Mac OS X using disk utility (fat) and iTunes files where on it when I mounted it. 
20:50 < Farthen> nieuwbie: i don't trust any apple software leaving a clean filesystem on ipods. they sometimes do weird things with their own devices ;)
20:51 < nieuwbie> Farthen: When I bought iMac I was so excited, but know, I don't like it anymore.
20:51 < nieuwbie> Farthen: It's so weird.
20:52 < Farthen> how long do you have it now?
20:52 < nieuwbie> Farthen: couple months.
20:53 < Farthen> that's what i call a quick change in mindset
20:54 < Farthen> i only know apple fanboys and apple haters. i don't know of any people who bought a mac and were disappointed because the haters would never buy one ;)
20:55 < nieuwbie> Farthen: Still think that's a nice piece of hardware though
20:55 < nieuwbie> Farthen: It almost ruined me. ^^
20:55 < nieuwbie> Farthen: The cheapest model (21") costed me 1099 euros.
20:55 < nieuwbie> I don't like OS.
20:56 < Farthen> i think we should switch to #freemyipod-chatter xD there are some people who are reading the irc logs and want to keep this somehow clean
20:57 < nieuwbie> Hardware is quiet nice.
20:57 < nieuwbie> Looks good, keyboard is not so bad but you have to use to it, I'm missing standard qwerty with numerlock, I hate mouse... ^^
20:57 < nieuwbie> Farthen: Mac OS I use for webserfing, gentoo for studying.
20:57 < nieuwbie> ^^
20:58 < nieuwbie> That would be a pleasure, but I have to get up tomorrow very early.
20:58 < nieuwbie> Tomorrow I have to work around 14 hours. :/
21:00 < nieuwbie> No time for study, that's why mControllers and embedded systems are so new for me.
21:00 < nieuwbie> Farthen: But I'll definitly come back. I want to improve my programming skills and knowledge.
21:00 < nieuwbie> anyway thanks for everything.
21:00 < nieuwbie> See you all. ^^
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