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00:51 < faileas> lol
00:56 < faileas> i really am looking forward to my other ipod finishing up the format ><
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03:51 < XlxlX> Is this room dead too/
03:51 < XlxlX> ?
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03:52 < XlxlX> Well then
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10:43 < STeeF> TheSeven, what is the current state of the ce-ata ipod classic? I've seen a commit in emCORE adding initial support! What can I do to test / expriment further?
10:44 < STeeF> I've seen http://files.freemyipod.org/misc/installer-ipodclassic.ubi been updated on the 21th is this one classic (160 GB) compatible?
10:49 < faileas> STeeF: from what was said earlier, its not stable yet, requires some trickery, and there's no way to switch over to the older firmware...
10:50 < faileas> er, no easy way
10:51 < STeeF> faileas, I know. I compiled and debuged the ce-ata test code earlier (few weeks ago)
10:51 < faileas> bottom of these logs http://logs.freemyipod.org/%23freemyipod/2011-02/2011-02-21-%23freemyipod.log
10:51 < faileas> ahh
10:51 < faileas> my bad ;p
10:51 < faileas> >_>
10:56 < STeeF> tnx for the IRC log lines, I'll poke around abit tonight when i'm at home to see if I can get rockbox booted :)
10:58 < STeeF> I want to get rid of the OF ASAP :)
10:59 < faileas> lol
10:59 < faileas> I might have a spare ipod at some point ;p
11:00 < faileas> (my old one has bad clusters. Its a race to see if this gets finished, or the disk scan. Apparently rockbox might win... the mkdosfs process has been running for 12 days at this point)
11:04 < STeeF> lol
11:10 < faileas> on the bright side, my refurb (1G 160 gb, just like my old one) seems to be holding up well
11:10 < faileas> slight mystery though, it seems to be somewhat worn, but the drive smarttools info indicates it hasn't been used much. its certainly in better condition than my old one 
11:11 < faileas> In addition, ipods have wierd failure modes, locking up (unkillably) itunes, random pauses, and random freezes when plugged in 
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13:51 < Stephenc|mobile> Theseven, I can test ce-ata later on. How is rockbox?
13:55 < TheSeven> Stephenc|mobile: dog slow on CE-ATA currently
13:55 < TheSeven> i'll look into that tonight
13:56 < Stephenc|mobile> I don't mind. I can  test anyway. I don't mind not  being able to use the of.
13:56 < TheSeven> windows failed to mount mine because reading the FAT (~160MB) timed out (after like an hour)
13:56 < TheSeven> rockbox itself takes like a minute to boot, but works reasonably well from that point on
13:57 < Stephenc|mobile> I dual boot ubuntu, would that be better to use ?
13:58 < TheSeven> if this slowness accumulates with that ehci_hcd bug... good luck! :-P
14:01 < Stephenc|mobile> So, do the iloader upgrade in windows ?
14:06 < TheSeven> the iloader upgrade itself isn't the problem
14:06 < TheSeven> but transferring files in rockbox is really, really slow
14:08 < Stephenc|mobile> Ah, got you now. Isn't rockbox usually slower at transferring? Altho, I doubt to the point it times out.
14:19 < Stephenc|mobile> Back to work now, will be on later to test.
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19:05 < stephen___> TheSeven, you about?
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19:07 < TheSeven> yep
19:07 < stephen___> i'm ready to go, just connected in dfu mode
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19:22 < stephen___> is there a new bootstrap file for the ce-atas ?
19:29 < TheSeven> stephen___: no, this file barely ever changes
19:30 < stephen___> ok copying over the classic installer from yesterdays logs
19:32 < stephen___> have unmnounted and the screen staying white
19:32 < stephen___> should I unplug ?
19:33 < TheSeven> completely white or some text on it?
19:33 < stephen___> completly white
19:33 < TheSeven> huh? it went all-white after ejecting?
19:34 < stephen___> after unmounting it went allk white and the briteness when up full I haven't unplugged yet
19:34 < TheSeven> but the LCD worked correctly in umsboot?
19:34 < stephen___> it was still dark from dfu mode
19:35 < TheSeven> oops
19:35 < TheSeven> so at least two problems at one
19:35 < TheSeven> once*
19:35 < stephen___> should I unplug ?
19:35 < TheSeven> the backlight control is completely independent of the lcd
19:35 < TheSeven> that won't have any effect
19:35 < TheSeven> apparently there's trouble both while communicating with the power manager and lcd
19:36 < stephen___> still white i presume a menu & select will get me back to apple os
19:36 < TheSeven> it should
19:36 < stephen___> it did back in dfu mode now tho
19:37 < stephen___> how do i get round this then ?
19:37 < TheSeven> huh? now what exactly is happening?
19:37  * TheSeven is confused
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19:40 < stephen___> its back in dfu mode screen black want me to install the bootstrap again ?
19:40 < stephen___> I'm in ubuntu should I try windows ?
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19:53 < TheSeven> the host os shouldn't matter
19:56 < stephen___> any ideas then ?
19:59 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r643): emCORE: iPod Classic CE-ATA driver: The drive doesn't signal completion after spindown. Just wait a second at that point until a better solution is found.
19:59 < fmibot> r643 build result: emcore: All green!
20:00 < fmibot> r643 build result: embios: All green!
20:00 < TheSeven> stephen___: i still didn't fully understand what exactly you did and how exactly the ipod behaved
20:00 < TheSeven> try to add more detail
20:01 < stephen___> ok I'm in dfu mode now
20:01 < TheSeven> and if you upload the boostrap image, you don't get any LCD reaction?
20:01 < stephen___> i'm going to use the python script to transfer over the bootstrap-ipodclassic.dfu
20:01 < stephen___> ill do it now and tell you what happens
20:02 < stephen___> Screen lights up
20:02 < TheSeven> ah
20:02 < TheSeven> so the behavior is inconsistent?
20:02 < TheSeven> [20:34] <TheSeven> but the LCD worked correctly in umsboot?
20:02 < TheSeven> [20:34] <stephen___> it was still dark from dfu mode
20:02 < stephen___> normally then takes a few minutes before I get the umsboot drive
20:03 < stephen___> when i copy over the ipodinstaller.ubi and unmount it it goes very bright
20:03 < stephen___> still waiting on umsboot
20:03 < stephen___> no the behaviour is always the same
20:04 < TheSeven> so how did it behave now? did it stay dark, or did it light up?
20:04 < stephen___> its light up now but not at full brightness, umsboot just popped up so i'll transfer the .ubi file over
20:05 < TheSeven> well, if the LCD doesn't work at that stage, there is no point in going any further, as apparently the driver is having problems
20:05 < TheSeven> which LCD type do you have?
20:05 < stephen___> should it show something ?
20:05 < stephen___> hang on i'll boot into apple diag mode
20:05 < TheSeven> (IIRC this information is hiding somewhere in the "Accessorize test" in diagmode)
20:06 < stephen___> What buttons are diag mode again ?
20:07 < stephen___> its ok i got it
20:07 < stephen___> lcd=1
20:12 < TheSeven> hm, I think that's the only one I haven't personally seen yet
20:12 < stephen___> just my luck
20:13 < stephen___> Waited 3 years for this thing to have rockbox and it just doesn't want to seem to happen
20:15 < TheSeven> once i get that disk slowness sorted out, i might have a look at the init sequence for that one
20:15 < TheSeven> it might be as trivial as a typo somewhere
20:16 < stephen___> NOt to worry.
20:16 < stephen___> I do read the logs most days in any case
20:16 < stephen___> Only at home tuesdays & wednesdays to test tho
20:16 < stephen___> unless I might bring my laptop with me this weekend
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20:47 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r644): emcore.py: Align disk access buffers. This greatly speeds up transferring of large files
20:47 < fmibot> r644 build result: emcore: All green!
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20:47 < fmibot> r644 build result: embios: All green!
20:47 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r645): Oops, that didn't belong there
20:48 < fmibot> r645 build result: emcore: All green!
20:48 < fmibot> r645 build result: embios: All green!
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21:15 < [7]> 7.5MB/s for music files now
21:18 < [7]> (at 1MB buffer size, 4.1MB/s at 64K)
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21:21 < stephen___> is the emcore ?
21:39 < [7]> stephen___: context?
21:39 < [7]> the values I just posted are the improvements after r644
21:40 < stephen___> ah cool
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22:21  * [7] just updated installer-ipodclassic.ubi and rockbox-ceata.zip
22:21 < [7]> they seem to be usable for regular music playback use now
22:25 < [7]> ~9MB/s via rockbox USB
22:27 < GaveUp> assuming no easy way to go back to ofw after installing yet?
22:28 < GaveUp> wow am I dense ... took me 2 minutes to make the connection between TheSeven and [7]
22:28  * stephen___ still waits for lcdtype 1 support :O(
22:29 < stephen___> yeah that hapened me before GaveUp 
22:30 < [7]> GaveUp: yep, still the same hackery
22:31 < [7]> i could put together an UBI file one could throw into DFU, and then restore using itunes
22:31 < [7]> however we might have reached a point where rockbox might actually become usable for everyday use, if you don't need accessory support
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22:35 < [7]> GaveUp: what's your everyday use case?
22:38 < GaveUp> hooked up to my car
22:38 < GaveUp> any headphone listening is done on the iphone as it's a bit difficult to pause on the ipod when that button is broke
22:42 < GaveUp> for that ofw works fine ... my interest in rockbox is more being able to use it for the car and as a headphone player by remapping/not needing the play/pause button
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