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00:56 < bcoco85> rockbox refuses usb
00:57 < bcoco85> Feb 28 01:56:09 debian kernel: [ 1135.904567] usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 24
00:57 < bcoco85> Feb 28 01:56:09 debian kernel: [ 1135.904578] sd 13:0:0:0: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
00:57 < bcoco85> Feb 28 01:56:09 debian kernel: [ 1135.904591] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdd] Unhandled error code
00:57 < bcoco85> Feb 28 01:56:09 debian kernel: [ 1135.904594] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdd] Result: hostbyte=DID_ABORT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
00:57 < bcoco85> Feb 28 01:56:09 debian kernel: [ 1135.904599] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdd] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 01 bf 29 60 00 00 01 00
00:57 < bcoco85> in ipodclassic 120gb
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14:13 < AndroUser2> Theseven, any luck with LCD version 1 ? Well done on the ce-ata in rockbox.
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14:18 < TheSeven> AndroUser2 (for the logs): the CE-ATA classic I borrowed has a type1 LCD and it works just fine
14:22 < GaveUp> finally got my classic pulled apart yesterday ... looks like it's going to cost too much to bother fixing :(
14:26 < Stephenc__> Would of version matter ? Or did I do something wrong? Theseven
14:29 < TheSeven> Stephenc__: context?
14:29 < TheSeven> GaveUp: what's up with it?
14:30 < GaveUp> the play button ... it's not the wheel ... and I don't see any broken solder connections or missing components so I'm guess I'd need to replace the mainboard
14:30 < GaveUp> everything seemed to mesasure fine on the multimeter too ... so I'm rather stumped
14:31 < Stephenc__> Oh I was androuser2 last week I tried to upgrade
14:31 < TheSeven> so you're getting an all-white lcd?
14:33 < Stephenc__> Yeah. With type 1 lcd
14:35 < TheSeven> even in umsboot?
14:37 < Stephenc__> Yeah, its faded white in umsboot, then when I copy the . Ubi over it brightened up but can see nothing but a white screen.
14:51 < Stephenc__> OK gotta go, will try again tomorrow when back home. 
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15:03 < GaveUp> hmmm tough decision...do I buy a new ipod classic or do I buy a new head unit that works well with my iphone :/
15:05 < STeeF> I would buy a new iPod classic :P
15:06 < GaveUp> no guarantees it'll work with my headunit
15:06 < GaveUp> :/
15:10 < geek7> ;p
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15:15 < GaveUp> then again i swore if i bought a new headunit it'd be a doubledin with gps touch screen so the ipod would probably be cheaper
15:19 < bcoco85> anybody here now using and ipodclassic 120gb with rockbox?
15:20 < TheSeven> bcoco85: the 80gb/120gb/new 160gb are more or less the same
15:20 < TheSeven> why?
15:23 < bcoco85> because, i have problems mounting the device
15:23 < bcoco85> and i was wondering if it happens to someone
15:23 < GaveUp> TheSeven: just how close are they?  when I was pricing mainboards from what I could tell they were visually identical
15:24 < teuf> there was some added stuff on the 120GB motherboard compared to 80GB (for remote control or soemthing iirc)
15:24 < bcoco85> GaveUp: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Hardware
15:26  * teuf has to remember to make a teardown of his classic 3g when it breaks
15:26 < bcoco85> i turn on the ipod, run rockbox
15:26 < bcoco85> then connect the usb
15:26 < bcoco85> and no success.
15:26 < GaveUp> bcoco85: yeah pretty much identical then minus the component between 1g and 2g and 
15:27 < TheSeven> bcoco85: windows or linux?
15:27 < bcoco85> gnu/linux
15:27 < TheSeven> try removing the ehci_hcd module
15:27 < bcoco85> i will copypaste 4 lines from system logs:
15:27 < TheSeven> or waiting for ages
15:27 < bcoco85> Feb 28 11:17:29 debian kernel: [34815.727799] usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 35
15:27 < bcoco85> Feb 28 11:17:29 debian kernel: [34815.735753] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdd] Unhandled error code
15:27 < bcoco85> Feb 28 11:17:29 debian kernel: [34815.735759] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdd] Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
15:27 < bcoco85> Feb 28 11:17:29 debian kernel: [34815.735762] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdd] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 01 bf 29 60 00 00 01 00
15:27 < bcoco85> hmm
15:27 < TheSeven> hm, never seen that
15:27 < GaveUp> sure you have ... about 10 seconds ago ;)
15:27 < TheSeven> anything suspicions (bus resets?) above the first line you pasted?
15:28 < TheSeven> the rest might just be a regular surprise removal
15:28 < bcoco85> let me see TheSeven
15:28 < bcoco85> when disconnecting, the ipod is freezed
15:30 < bcoco85> nothing seems stange
15:30 < bcoco85> it tries to connect using ehci_hdc
15:31 < bcoco85> ant then the lines i copied before
15:31 < TheSeven> bcoco85: so you say the ipod doesn't go back to the main menu even several seconds after unplugging?
15:31 < bcoco85> correct, i have to hold menu+select for a seconds to reboot
15:32 < bcoco85> i can copy the related dmesg lines if you want
15:32 < TheSeven> hm, this sounds more like an ipod-side problem then
15:32 < TheSeven> but rockbox itself can access the partition fine?
15:32 < bcoco85> yes
15:32 < timccc> sounds like what i reported.  my problems seem to stem from a worn ipod hardware connection 
15:32 < bcoco85> and also, with older versions, i could copy lots of music
15:33 < timccc> but i differ there: i've never been able to reliably mount
15:33 < TheSeven> bcoco85: which versions exactly? (both the working one and the one you're currently trying)
15:33 < TheSeven> are you running a pre-yesterday CEATA build?
15:34 < bcoco85> with older versions i discovered that i could only mount the device ONLY WHILE playing music (??!!)
15:34 < bcoco85> that happened with the versions included in your installation howto
15:35 < bcoco85> now im running the versions i downloaded under the Updates section of the same howto
15:35 < bcoco85> now im running
15:35 < bcoco85> emCORE v0.1.4 r617:646
15:36 < bcoco85> rockbox r29441-110227
15:37 < TheSeven> hm, so that's the old ata driver
15:37 < bcoco85> should i update iloader¿
15:37 < TheSeven> no, but you should update rockbox to >=r29449
15:37 < bcoco85> ok
15:38 < TheSeven> let's see if that changes the behavior
15:38 < bcoco85> but, the problem is that i cannot mount the partition
15:38 < TheSeven> it's using a completely different storage driver (ported from emcore) now
15:38 < bcoco85> i will try starting from zero
15:38 < TheSeven> have a hexedit around?
15:38 < bcoco85> hd
15:39 < bcoco85> i can install one in a minuto
15:39 < TheSeven> extract rockbox.ipod from the zip, strip off the first 8 bytes, rename it to something.ubi and throw it into umsboot :)
15:39 < TheSeven> ah, forgot that you're on linux
15:39 < bcoco85> ok. i take note.
15:39 < bcoco85> yep
15:39 < TheSeven> you can just use dd in that case
15:40 < bcoco85> with dd... i can open the pandora box with dd
15:41 < bcoco85> i can do disaster with this tool
15:44 < TheSeven> dd if=rockbox.ipod of=/media/UMSboot/rockbox.ubi bs=8 skip=1 :)
15:44 < bcoco85> TheSeven thanks!!
15:45 < GaveUp> disaster with dd?! never!
15:45 < TheSeven> cp is sufficient for desaster
15:46 < TheSeven> i managed to trash my boot HDDs partition table using it once
15:46 < TheSeven> that was really nasty
15:46 < TheSeven> copying device nodes around is not a good idea :)
15:47 < TheSeven> i ended up having /dev/sdc being the same node as /dev/sda, and then writing to that believing it was my ipod
15:47 < bcoco85> can you access the partition table with cp? i though that HDD section was not accessible to cp
15:48 < TheSeven> if you fool around with /dev/sda, you certainly can :)
15:48 < bcoco85> aah
15:49 < TheSeven> so cp /dev/zero /dev/sda will wipe the whole drive, including the MBR/partition table
15:49 < bcoco85> scaring
15:49 < bcoco85> TheSeven, i have a doubt with that rockbox.ipod file
15:50 < bcoco85> i succesfuly downloaded rockbox-ipodclassic.zip
15:50 < bcoco85> http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipodclassic.zip
15:50 < bcoco85> but inside the zip i have a plain hidden directory with plain files
15:50 < GaveUp> TheSeven: who hasn't done something stupid with /dev/zero once or ten times in their life?
15:50 < bcoco85> (copy paste)
15:51 < TheSeven> bcoco85: it should be /.rockbox/rockbox.ipod in the zip file
15:51 < bcoco85> oh it was there
15:52 < bcoco85> sorry
15:54 < bcoco85> one question
15:54 < bcoco85> about the boot menu
15:54 < bcoco85> the new boot menu is a fancy sliding icons
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15:55 < bcoco85> most of the times, the colors displayed looks like LSD hippies from the 60s colors
15:55 < bcoco85> and few times, it show propertly blue colours
15:55 < bcoco85> i can take a foto
15:57 < GaveUp> lsd?! ooo!
15:58 < bcoco85> yes, the screen has green yellow red white blue like pop art im not joking this is serious
15:59 < TheSeven> i know
16:00 < TheSeven> apparently i'm pushing the CPU a bit too far
16:01 < bcoco85> i could not access in umsboot
16:01 < bcoco85> i had to swith to DFU mode and run those python scripts
16:01 < TheSeven> but then it works?
16:01 < bcoco85> im working on it
16:02 < TheSeven> i mean umsboot is accessible?
16:02 < bcoco85> it should appear in moments
16:02 < bcoco85> yes i can see usmboot device
16:03 < bcoco85> i will dd now
16:03 < TheSeven> bugger
16:04 < bcoco85> root@debian:/mnt/500/docs/ipod# dd if=/home/co/Desktop/rockbox.ipod of=/media/UMSboot/rockbox.ubi bs=8 skip=1
16:04 < bcoco85> 72215+0 records in
16:04 < bcoco85> 72215+0 records out
16:04 < bcoco85> 577720 bytes (578 kB) copied, 0.203311 s, 2.8 MB/s
16:06 < bcoco85> TheSeven, the same result with version 29441
16:07 < TheSeven> so you're regularly getting those boot menu artifacts?
16:07 < TheSeven> i only get them once in a blue moon
16:08 < bcoco85> most of the times
16:09  * TheSeven just updated http://files.freemyipod.org/misc/installer-ipodclassic.ubi
16:09 < TheSeven> can you check if it gets better with this one?
16:09 < bcoco85> ok
16:11 < bcoco85> Feb 28 17:05:50 debian kernel: [55717.031375] sd 22:0:0:0: [sdd] Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
16:11 < bcoco85> Feb 28 17:05:50 debian kernel: [55717.031380] sd 22:0:0:0: [sdd] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 01 bf 29 60 00 00 01 00
16:11 < bcoco85> i have to DFU again
16:15 < bcoco85> TheSeven: no artifacts now. solved.
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16:16 < TheSeven> but i assume the usb problem is still present?
16:16 < bcoco85> now cheching the usb problem with rockbox 29441
16:17 < bcoco85> i did the mount-while-playing trick and i have successfully mounted iPodClassic device
16:17 < TheSeven> why still 29441?
16:17 < bcoco85> i dont know
16:18 < bcoco85> im gonna update to Version: r29463-110228
16:19 < bcoco85> updated
16:19 < bcoco85> now mounts
16:23 < bcoco85> everything seems to work now
16:23 < bcoco85> TheSeven: thank you!!
16:24 < TheSeven> the fun part is that i have absolutely no explanation why this behavior should have changed...
16:24 < bcoco85> incompatibilities?
16:24 < bcoco85> rockbox freezes when playing large mp3 files
16:25 < bcoco85> when it freezes sounds like rave music
16:25 < STeeF> bcoco85, how large is large?
16:25 < bcoco85> 2 hours mixtapes
16:25 < bcoco85> 150MB
16:25 < STeeF> I'm playing those just fine
16:26 < TheSeven> bcoco85: at which point does it freeze?
16:26 < bcoco85> random
16:26 < TheSeven> so not even roughly the same amount of data played?
16:26 < bcoco85> even with 20 minutos mixtapes. but let me check it with this new version
16:28 < bcoco85> now playing some large mixtapes: i will be back when the rave starts (when it hangs)
16:29 < bcoco85> bye!
16:38 < bcoco85> the rave has started
16:40 < bcoco85> 11 minutes
16:43 < bcoco85> there is a Debug menu
16:43 < bcoco85> "Keep Out!" it says
16:43 < bcoco85> can i see what is happening with this tool when it hangs?
16:46 < bcoco85> what should i look for?
16:47 < TheSeven> the only thing that might be helpful is the buffering info screen
16:48 < bcoco85> View buffering thread ?
16:48 < TheSeven> yep
16:48 < bcoco85> ok
16:48 < bcoco85> now im playing a big mixtape
16:49 < bcoco85> do you need some info?
16:49 < bcoco85> that is in the buffer screen¿
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16:55 < TheSeven> it would be interesting if usefl is very low when it crashes
16:56 < bcoco85> now is playing and all the 4 bars are almost mostly full
16:56 < TheSeven> the bottom bar will slowly decrease during playback
16:56 < TheSeven> and when it's at only a few hundred KB left it will spin up the disk and start to fill again
16:56 < TheSeven> that might be a possible trigger for the crash to happen
16:57 < TheSeven> how often roughly does it crahs?
16:57 < TheSeven> crash*
16:57 < TheSeven> more like every five minutes or every hour?
16:57 < bcoco85> i noticed that with this rockbox version i cannot FFWD
16:57 < bcoco85> oh sorry
16:58 < bcoco85> i can
16:58 < bcoco85> but not always
16:59 < bcoco85> well, how often...
16:59 < bcoco85> simetimes i had been one hour without problems
16:59 < bcoco85> sometimes, twice in 15 minutes
17:03 < bcoco85> TheSeven the rave has started
17:03 < TheSeven> sounds like there was still plenty of data in the buffer?
17:04 < bcoco85> usefl: 13701770/62305616
17:04 < bcoco85> buffers, you mean alloc and real?
17:04 < bcoco85> alloc is full
17:05 < bcoco85> alloc: 62305616/62305616
17:05 < bcoco85> this is a buffer overflow?
17:06 < bcoco85> i have restarted
17:06 < bcoco85> and begin to play again a big mixtape
17:07 < bcoco85> alloc: 62240079/62240080
17:07 < bcoco85> close to the edge
17:07 < bcoco85> again freezed!
17:12 < TheSeven> so whatever it is, it's not related to rebuffering
17:13 < TheSeven> what kind of tracks are that? codec? bitrate? vbr/cbr?
17:14 < bcoco85> MP3 VBR
17:14 < bcoco85> 44100hz
17:18 < TheSeven> so basically the same that i'm listening to, just longer tracks
17:19 < bcoco85> 120MB
17:19 < bcoco85> 2 hours
17:19 < bcoco85> but they suddenly transform in rave music haha
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17:53  * TheSeven tries a 70MB mixtape
17:56 < TheSeven> bcoco85: did this happen for you from the beginning, or since some update?
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17:58 < bcoco85> in the beginning i remember that freezed one or two times, but nothing more.
17:58 < bcoco85> with newer versions becomes worst
17:59 < bcoco85> but im relatively new to this project
17:59 < bcoco85> about 2 weeks
18:00 < bcoco85> (18:08:13) bcoco85: again freezed! -> 50 minutes without freezes
18:00 < TheSeven> ok, now it happened to me as well
18:00 < TheSeven> 6:54 played
18:00 < bcoco85> (18:53:56) ***TheSeven tries a 70MB mixtape
18:01 < bcoco85> seems ramdom
18:01 < bcoco85> maybe, rockbox updating database in the background eats ram?
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18:01 < TheSeven> it shouldn't do anything with the DB in the background
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18:14 < bcoco85> TheSeven: freezed again
18:14 < bcoco85> 1 hour playback and freezes
18:15 < bcoco85> Theseven do you need some buffers information?
18:16 < TheSeven> what was usefl?
18:16 < TheSeven> if that wasn't near-zero, that data won't help
18:16 < TheSeven> hm, and maybe the topmost bar
18:16 < bcoco85> is not zero
18:16 < bcoco85> is 80% full
18:17 < bcoco85> the pcm bar¿?
18:17 < TheSeven> yep
18:17 < TheSeven> also almost full?
18:17 < bcoco85> pcm: 497456/529200
18:17 < TheSeven> what does the boost thing say?
18:18 < bcoco85> boost: 0.8% (108.8MHz)
18:18 < TheSeven> and cpu frequency?
18:18 < bcoco85> cpu freq: 108MHz
18:18 < TheSeven> ok, now reboot and start playback again
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18:18 < bcoco85> ok
18:18 < TheSeven> then go to the debug menu => cpu frequency
18:19 < TheSeven> turn the wheel to the left a few times to raise boost_counter to like 5, just to be sure
18:19 < bcoco85> boost_counter: 1
18:19 < TheSeven> then go back to whereever you want (while playing or buffering debug screen) and see if it crashes again
18:19 < TheSeven> if it runs for hours without crashing, the problems might be related to boosting
18:20 < bcoco85> 2
18:20 < bcoco85> 3
18:20 < bcoco85> 4
18:20 < bcoco85> 5
18:20 < bcoco85> Frequency: 216000000
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18:57 < bcoco85> TheSeven im gonna play another mixtape now. do you need any debug data?
18:58 < TheSeven> just let me know if you get any further crashes after increasing the boost counter
18:59 < bcoco85> increase boost counter... that thing i did before?
19:00 < bcoco85> autoanswer: yes
19:01 < bcoco85> now is boosted to 100% (216mhz)
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19:27 < bcoco85> TheSeven how much boost should i set?
19:29 < TheSeven> doesn't matter
19:29 < TheSeven> just more than zero
19:29 < bcoco85> 1
19:29 < TheSeven> and because you might accidentally decrease it by one while trying to leave the menu, setting it to 2 or 3 can't hurt
19:29 < bcoco85> ok
19:29 < bcoco85> 2
19:30 < bcoco85> and then set to view buffering thread
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20:23 < bcoco85> TheSeven this is the longest time i have played music continuously without freeze. 1h 20m and continues
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20:53 < bcoco85> TheSeven: i have to go. 2 hours of continuous playback without freezes with cpu boost enabled as you told me. thanks!
20:55 < bcoco85> bye
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