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05:20 < TheSeven> [Saint], arsenys (for the logs):
05:20 < TheSeven> i don't think that this cirrus codec can ever beat the wolfsons, and i don't think that the firmware has a big influence on sound quality (yet, at least)
05:21 < TheSeven> if the firmware can optimize this, i'm pretty sure apple would have already done so
05:24 < [Saint]> TheSeven: I was going by RB's addition of a nice EQ, and Bass/Treble etc. If it doesn't sound nicer immediately, it can definitely be tuned a lot more than the Apple OF does.
05:26 < TheSeven> it seems like the ADC isn't really nice though :/
05:27 < [Saint]> I had a chance to "back-to-back" a ROckbox'ed Classic 3G with a non-Rockbox'ed Classic 3G...and it definitely sounded a lot nicer in RB to me.
05:27 < [Saint]> even with EQ off.
05:27 < TheSeven> and IIUC (and I don't really have a clue about audio quality), this can't be corrected by software EQ, or if it can, you'd need at least a damn lot more bands
05:27  * [Saint] has a 24 band EQ in RB ;)
05:27 < TheSeven> that's really funny as I mostly copied apple's codec setup
05:27 < [Saint]> well, 22 really...and high/low shelf.
05:27 < TheSeven> and it's not like you can configure many things in that respect
05:28 < TheSeven> so it might actually be rockbox's MP3 codec that's better?
05:28 < TheSeven> (or maybe you were comparing FLAC to MP3?)
05:28 < [Saint]> possibly...it was .mp3 actually.
05:28 < [Saint]> nup... .mp3 to .mp3, even the same track/album
05:29 < TheSeven> how would you describe the audible difference? and how does it compare to a nano2g?
05:29 < [Saint]> to me, there was a definite difference, and RB sounded...."warmer"?
05:30 < [Saint]> to me, it sounded as though (compared to RB) that the Apple OF was playing music from inside a metal trash can?
05:30 < [Saint]> very, hollow...and metalic.
05:30 < TheSeven> yeah, that's about what I've read
05:30 < [Saint]> whereas, RB sounds very "warm", and "rounded" in comparison.
05:30 < TheSeven> I must admit that I haven't ever used OF audio playback on a classic so far :)
05:30 < [Saint]> good!
05:31 < TheSeven> and I haven't done any back-to-back tests with a nano2g
05:31 < TheSeven> but I didn't notice a difference between them under these conditions
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05:31 < [Saint]> I couldn't test with a N2g, but that would have been interesting.
05:31 < [Saint]> I'd rather compare it to the Nano1G, which IMO has the nicest sound of any of my targets.
05:31 < TheSeven> (well, my earphones certainly aren't the best, and I'm not really an audiophile at all)
05:32 < [Saint]> Nor I...I even feel weird describing a sound as "warm" ;p
05:33 < TheSeven> well, if you think ~$1000 earphones are worth their price, you're *certainly* an audiophile compared to me at least :)
05:33 < [Saint]> A true audiophile needs to describe audio with random words... preferrably types of food from what I've seen.
05:34 < [Saint]> "The bass has a rich, crunch, caramel texture"...WTF!?!
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05:51 < TheSeven> well, I think I can imagine what that person might have meant
05:51 < TheSeven> crunch and caramel probably more in terms of consistency though :)
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13:03 < paulo_> hello
13:05 < kyle6513> hey paulo
13:39 < paulo_> lol, cant pwn the nano6g
13:39 < kyle6513> of course.
13:40 < kyle6513> it hasn't even been looked at
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13:59 < AndroUser> Has anyone tried hacking dfu mode on the nano 5th Gen?
13:59 < TheSeven> i don't think so
14:01 < AndroUser> I have access to one I can check. I know notes was blocked tho.
14:03 < TheSeven> yeah, notes and pwnage2.0 have been fixed
14:03 < TheSeven> you'd need to try some of the newer iphone exploits
14:04 < AndroUser> Will read up on it and see how I get in.
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