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10:41 < STeeF> Anyone knows a way to reset my ipod classic 1G 160 GB? Its really locked up, Menu+Select reset doesn't work. I tried Switching the hold-switch multiple times, pluging headphone in and out, connecting usb but Whatever I try my ipod can not reset using Menu+Select
10:42 < STeeF> My suggestion now is to wait until the battery drains...
10:46 < kyle6513> only other way would be to disconnect the battery, just leave it on, it should drain.
10:53  * TheSeven has never managed to reproduce that so far
11:01 < STeeF> I once or twice needed to plugin the usb cable to be able to reset an 'unresetable' ipod. Never faced this hard-deadlock
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11:12 < kyle6513> could be an endless loop at a hardware level?
11:39 < STeeF> Victory! I finally managed to reboot the ipod :)
11:40 < STeeF> the solution was to switch the hold-switch on-off-on-off-on-off a lot of times like crazy and than Menu+Select worked
11:40 < STeeF> very very strange, I have no explanation
12:27 < TheSeven> i think i'll manage to release emcore for the ipod classic this weekend
12:28 < TheSeven> the nano2g will probably take a bit longer
12:31 < [Saint]> Aw :/
12:40 < kyle6513> its okay saint, the nano4g will take even longer :P
12:45  * Farthen stopped talking about nano 2g long ago
12:50 < STeeF> TheSeven, you have my patch for the uninstaller for the classic right?
12:50 < Farthen> s/nano2g/nano4g/
12:51 < TheSeven> STeeF: i'm overhauling things once again
12:51 < TheSeven> to finally make this ready for a public release, i'll make "restore using itunes" work from just about every possible state
12:51 < STeeF> Nice :)
12:53 < STeeF> I'll test the release once it's there, I'll be on IRC during week-daytime if people have support questions
13:00  * TheSeven is doing a first build
13:00  * Farthen expects TheSeven to brick one of his iPods once again
13:00 < TheSeven> as if one could brick a classic...
13:01 < Farthen> you can't. i somehow thought about the nano 2g
13:05 < [Saint]> it’s not really possible to brick a 2G wither is it?
13:05 < [Saint]> get it into a pretty messed up state sure, but brick?
13:05 < [Saint]> s/wither/either/
13:07 < Farthen> you can't brick any ipod since the nano 2g. but you would have to open it to restore it again
13:07 < [Saint]> right...that makes me curious about your comment then.
13:07 < Farthen> i used brick more in a sense of "will probably not work"
13:07 < [Saint]> ah.
13:08 < [Saint]> I use brick in the literal sense, as in “you now have a paperweight, and no ammount of tools will ever recover it”.
13:08 < Farthen> maybe i should have been more careful with the use of this strong word :-P
13:09 < [Saint]> Different interpretations I guess ;) Some people call a data abort a “brick” ;)
13:10 < [Saint]> “Oh nos! I bricked my iPodz...it says “Panic*!”
13:10 < Farthen> yeah, i actually do not like these interpretations either
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14:10  * TheSeven expects a testing build to hit the sever during the next 30 minutes :)
14:10 < TheSeven> i clearly need a faster build worker!
14:19 < GaveUp> whip the workers more!
14:19 < GaveUp> keep them in line
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15:02 < TheSeven> damn, need yet another rebuild
15:24 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r655): Make library API table definitions static
15:25 < fmibot> r655 build result: emcore: All green!
15:25 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r656): libmkfat32: Fix volume label generation
15:25 < fmibot> r655 build result: embios: All green!
15:25 < fmibot> r656 build result: emcore: All green!
15:25 < fmibot> r656 build result: embios: All green!
15:26 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r657): emCORE: Const correctness
15:26 < fmibot> r657 build result: emcore: All green!
15:26 < fmibot> r657 build result: embios: All green!
15:28 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r658): libboot: Add some new functions
15:28 < fmibot> r658 build result: emcore: All green!
15:28 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r659): Suppress "rm -rf build" output from "make clean"
15:28 < fmibot> r658 build result: embios: All green!
15:28 < fmibot> r659 build result: emcore: All green!
15:29 < fmibot> r659 build result: embios: All green!
15:29 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r660): Rework iPod Classic bootloader and installation/uninstallation process
15:29 < fmibot> r660 build result: emcore: All green!
15:30 < fmibot> r660 build result: embios: All green!
15:31 < TheSeven> finally...
15:31  * TheSeven is building RC1
15:35 < TheSeven> ETA ~5 minutes
15:35 < TheSeven> testers, get your ipods ready :)
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15:35 < TheSeven> uploading...
15:36 < TheSeven> http://files.freemyipod.org/misc/installer-ipodclassic-rc1.ubi
15:37 < TheSeven> STeeF, GaveUp, teuf: you all have classics, right?
15:37 < TheSeven> anyone else?
15:37 < GaveUp> yes 
15:37 < teuf> TheSeven: yep, classic 3g
15:38 < GaveUp> mine is still apart on the cofee table ... no reason to bother putting it together since I'm not fixing it
15:38 < TheSeven> was that the one with the broken clickwheel?
15:39 < GaveUp> yep
15:42 < STeeF> TheSeven, yep, classic 1g (160GB)
15:42 < TheSeven> who wants to test that build?
15:43 < GaveUp> is there a way to revert to ofw?  i can hobble mine back together...
15:43 < TheSeven> in theory you can just restore using itunes
15:43 < STeeF> i'll try it in a moment
15:45 < GaveUp> ah ... well that was the only thing holding me back from testing before so I'll give it a shot over lunch
15:45 < TheSeven> you'll probably need a working clickwheel though
15:46 < GaveUp> all the buttons work except the one
15:46 < Farthen> which one?
15:46 < GaveUp> play
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15:52 < STeeF> TheSeven, upgraded from r650 to r660 all went fine!
15:58 < STeeF> TheSeven, found a bug in the boot-menu
15:58 < STeeF> When scrolling like a mad-man the menu locksup
15:58 < GaveUp> that didn't take long
15:58 < TheSeven> well, that bug has been there from the beginning
15:59 < TheSeven> i haven't found the cause yet
15:59 < TheSeven> i suspect that it's actually a kernel bug, probably some thread safety problem
16:00 < STeeF> sure looks like it :)
16:00 < STeeF> config remove from the tool menu works
16:00 < STeeF> Database remove from the tool menu works
16:00 < STeeF> Rockbox boots (Duh!)
16:00 < STeeF> Poweroff works
16:01 < STeeF> the fallback image boots but is not able to play music
16:01 < STeeF> that's about it
16:01 < TheSeven> that probably means that your rockbox version (and thus the codecs) are too old
16:01 < TheSeven> the fallback image is svn head (r29640)
16:02 < STeeF> ok i'm running r29539
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17:11 < user890104> make: *** No rule to make target `../../libs/mkfat32//build/mkfat32.emcorelib', needed by `flashfiles/mkfat32.emcorelib'.  Stop.
17:12 < user890104> i guess this is wrong: $(LIBUIDIR)/build/mkfat32.emcorelib: libmkfat32
17:12 < user890104> installer-ipodclassic/Makefile, line 176
17:13  * TheSeven thought he had fixed that
17:14 < user890104> r660 is the most recent, right?
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17:38 < GaveUp> hmm the umsboot app doesn't see my ipod :/
18:05 < GaveUp> does it not play well with win7 64bit?
18:26 < user890104> i've made a build on ubuntu server 10.10 x86 and uploaded it to builds.freemyipod.org
18:29 < user890104> and put the nano 2g one on my ipod, it boots OF and rockbox just fine
18:29 < user890104> but i can't test the classics installer since i don't have such device
18:30 < user890104> actually, it should not differ at all from the file that TheSeven posted
18:31 < user890104> GaveUp: you mean your PC does not see the ipod when in UMSboot mode?
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19:02 < GaveUp> the umsboot app doesn't see the ipod ... ipod shows up in device manager, though
19:02 < GaveUp> on winxp & win7 
19:03 < benedikt93> GaveUp, there is no "umsboot app". It should show up as removable drive.
19:04 < GaveUp> uh yeah there is ... for installing the ubi?
19:05 < GaveUp> alls I'm doing is following the instructions on the wiki
19:05 < benedikt93> throw the .ubi on that drive and disconnect, nothing more
19:05 < TheSeven> benedikt93, user890104: I suspect he means the tool to boot from DFU to umsboot
19:05 < GaveUp> bingo
19:05  * GaveUp gives TheSeven a cookie :P
19:06 < TheSeven> is the ipod's screen completely black?
19:06 < TheSeven> if not, it isn't in DFU mode
19:06 < GaveUp> yup
19:06 < GaveUp> it popped up with the dfu driver, updated it to winusb now shows as the freemyipod driver
19:06 < TheSeven> which driver is installed for the DFU device?
19:06 < TheSeven> ok
19:06 < TheSeven> but the tool still doesn't find it?
19:06 < GaveUp> nope
19:06 < TheSeven> what's your .NET framework version?
19:07 < TheSeven> there's rumours that it needs to be at least 3.5
19:07 < GaveUp> the gambit is installed ... 2.0, 3.0, 3.5, 4.0
19:10 < GaveUp> ah ... it's the pid that isn't matching
19:22 < GaveUp> well that was the problem...obviously patching that it'll run and success in the transfer but the ipod just hangs afterwards
19:24 < GaveUp> must have been some other mode ... not sure what mode it was in though...redid the dfu and got the right pid
19:26 < GaveUp> ah ... booted but can't install because of the button combo ... oh well
19:41 < TheSeven> if itunes had a chance to catch it, it might have been in wtf instead of dfu
19:41 < GaveUp> i bet that is what happened
19:42 < GaveUp> 1241 pid sound familiar?
19:43 < TheSeven> see the inf file for what that is
19:49 < GaveUp> it wasn't what was needed ... and at this point I've gone as far as I can 'less I get a new ipod or mainboard
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21:22 < bcoco85> hola
21:23 < bcoco85> the other day i was thinking about the possible cause of random freezes
21:23 < bcoco85> after changing a downloaded theme to the default failsafe rockbox theme
21:23 < bcoco85> i noticed fewer freezes
21:24 < bcoco85> but i have to say that it was just coincidence
21:24 < bcoco85> because i have the same random freezes i cannot diagnose
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