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12:45 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r661): Installer for iPod Classic: Fix a Makefile copy&paste problem
12:46 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r662): Boot menu for iPod Classic: Fix UMSboot
12:46 < fmibot> r661 build result: emcore: All green!
12:46 < fmibot> r662 build result: emcore: All green!
12:46 < fmibot> r661 build result: embios: All green!
12:46 < fmibot> r662 build result: embios: All green!
13:05 < kyle6513> managed to isolate the freezing problem?
13:07 < TheSeven> nope
13:07 < TheSeven> i've been hunting that for months now
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13:11 < kyle6513> how many people have reported it?
13:14 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r663): Suppress "rm -rf build" output from "make clean" in even more makefiles
13:14 < fmibot> r663 build result: emcore: All green!
13:15 < fmibot> r663 build result: embios: All green!
13:15 < TheSeven> not many, but there aren't many emcore users
13:18 < kyle6513> well, I suppose if more than one person has the bug, its a bug. :)
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13:20 < user890104> which freezing problem? the one in emcore's menu?
13:22 < Farthen> i think so, yes
13:23 < user890104> it happens on my nano2g also
13:24 < user890104> and i can't tell what is causing it, sometimes ~5 seconds after loading the menu without touching anything (the timer is at 25 or so)
13:24 < user890104> sometimes while scrolling, sometimes after i stop scrolling - weird thing (tm)
13:36 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r664): Fix some buggy emCORE loader makefile logic
13:36 < fmibot> r664 build result: emcore: All green!
13:36 < fmibot> r664 build result: embios: All green!
13:45 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r665): Fix even more buggy makefile logic
13:45 < fmibot> r665 build result: emcore: All green!
13:46 < fmibot> r665 build result: embios: All green!
13:53  * TheSeven wonders how emcore should be hosted
13:53 < TheSeven> what do you think works better?
13:54 < TheSeven> the dedicated homepage i had for iloader, or the wiki-based approach i used for the classic?
13:54  * TheSeven is building release candidates
13:55 < user890104> TheSeven what about the uninstallers?
14:02  * Farthen thinks we would need a website rework at some time which would sperate more between our wiki as a form of documentation and the static content which would include releases and instructions on how to use them
14:07 < TheSeven> Farthen: having the instructions improvable by users might be a good idea as well :)
14:08 < Farthen> it may be a good idea, yes. but it would still good to seperate them i think... maybe later
14:09  * Farthen is missing a verb
14:25 < user890104> i can try to write documentation for the emcore api functions that are missing on the page
14:26 < user890104> actually, there's no "emcore commands" page yet
14:27 < user890104> it may be useful to have one, with up-to-date content, for anyone who wishes to develop applications using the usb interface
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15:14 < Farthen> user890104: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Monitor_Protocol
15:14 < Farthen> there is alsready such a page
15:14 < Farthen> but it is basically a copy of the embios page with embios replaced by emcore
15:16 < user890104> oh, haven't seen it in the index
15:16 < user890104> could you add it to the bottom listing?
15:34 < Farthen> i could if it were at least somewhat accurate
15:36 < user890104> er, the api is compatible with embios, right?
15:36 < user890104> just one more sw_type
15:36 < user890104> or i am missing something?
15:36 < TheSeven> some commands are a bit different
15:36 < TheSeven> and there are of course additional commands
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16:27 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r666): Fix another dozen makefile bugs
16:27 < fmibot> r666 build result: emcore: All green!
16:28 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r667): iPod Classic boot menu: Remove some unneccessary casts
16:28 < fmibot> r666 build result: embios: All green!
16:28 < fmibot> r667 build result: emcore: All green!
16:28 < fmibot> r667 build result: embios: All green!
16:29 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r668): Fix confusing ordering in iPod Classic installation script
16:29 < fmibot> r668 build result: emcore: All green!
16:29 < fmibot> r668 build result: embios: All green!
16:31 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r669): emCORE: Increase iPod Nano 2G LCD shutdown delay, it was apparently too short
16:31 < fmibot> r669 build result: emcore: All green!
16:31 < fmibot> r669 build result: embios: All green!
16:34 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r670): Port iPod Nano 2G uninstaller to emCORE

16:34 < fmibot> r670 build result: emcore: All green!
16:35 < fmibot> r670 build result: embios: All green!
16:36 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r671): Add the remaining features to the iPod Nano 2G boot menu
16:37 < fmibot> r671 build result: emcore: All green!
16:37 < fmibot> r671 build result: embios: All green!
16:37 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r672): Integrate the new iPod Nano 2G features into its installer, and fix some installer bugs
16:38 < fmibot> r672 build result: emcore: All green!
16:38 < fmibot> r672 build result: embios: All green!
16:38 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r673): Remove deprecated projects
16:38 < fmibot> r673 build result: emcore: All green!
16:38 < fmibot> r673 build result: embios: All green!
16:40 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r674): Bump versions for initial emCORE release
16:41 < fmibot> r674 build result: emcore: All green!
16:41 < fmibot> r674 build result: embios: All green!
16:42  * TheSeven builds the release
16:43 < Farthen> TheSeven: I find it a bit risky to remove the "deprecated projects" completely without asking me to adjust the buildbot -.-
16:44 < user890104> Farthen: my build script just broke as well :)
16:47 < user890104> resources.S:278: Error: file not found: flashfiles/rockbox.ipod.ucl
16:47 < GaveUp> well i did get the build installed last night ... couple of issues ... if the drive was spun down when I plugged the usb in it would mount the drive but not properly ... it'd appear as a 0 byte drive with no files on it and unable to put any files on it ... also when I'd unplug the usb rockbox would lock up
16:47 < user890104> this shows when building the nano2g installer
16:55 < TheSeven> http://files.freemyipod.org/releases/20110325/
17:00  * Farthen edited the wiki, stating that emBIOS is discontinued now
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17:02 < TheSeven> who wants to write the installation guide?
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17:02 < TheSeven> i'm wondering if some kind of wizard would be helpful
17:03 < Farthen> a wizard would be good i think
17:07 < Farthen> TheSeven: it wouldn't work with ipodpatcher anyway i think, would it? it only patches the firmware partition IIUC
17:07 < TheSeven> ipodpatcher still handles the nano2g installation, even though we have the bootnote alternative for those
17:07 < TheSeven> the classic installation still uses DFU, which is rather hard to set up, as we all know
17:08 < Farthen> the bootnote never worked that good, did it?
17:09 < TheSeven> if you have the newest firmware installed, it should work just fine
17:09 < Farthen> i think it would work pretty well on the classic though because it doesn't need an ftl
17:09 < TheSeven> there were some weird ftls though...
17:10 < TheSeven> Farthen: if we even had a notes exploit there...
17:10 < Farthen> argh, damn
17:11 < GaveUp> TheSeven: oh yeah ... about dfu mode...wiki mentions the issue with itunes but easy way to fix that is just kill the ituneshelper process ...
17:12 < TheSeven> if you have the right driver installed, itunes won't interfere with it
17:12 < TheSeven> and if you don't things won't work nevertheless
17:12 < GaveUp> yeah but getting the right driver installed the first time is the hard part
17:29  * TheSeven considers building a small linux live cd that installs emcore onto an ipod
17:33  * Farthen thinks that would be a lot of work
17:33 < TheSeven> two days maybe
17:35 < Farthen> those two days would be better spent on reverse engineering the nano 4g! xD
17:35 < TheSeven> another way to go might be integrating the bootstrapping tool even more
17:36 < TheSeven> if we manage to kick out the itunes DFU driver somehow, we might be able to completely silently install ours
17:36 < TheSeven> or we could even try to piggyback on the itunes driver
17:37 < Farthen> i think we would need planetbeing or someone else from chronicdev for this
17:44 < TheSeven> or anyone else who has worked on that kind of thing
17:44 < Farthen> i can't think of anyone else
17:46 < TheSeven> well, there are 4 teams: devteam, chronicdev, geohot, idroid
17:48 < Farthen> you call geohot a team? isn't it more like a one-man company? xD
17:51 < TheSeven> that one, yes
17:51 < TheSeven> but the other teams are rather large
17:52 < GaveUp> geohot ... he may be arogant but if I had half his talent ....
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