--- Log opened Thu Mar 31 00:00:04 2011
00:00 < TheSeven> we're getting like 150fps on the nano2g displays
00:00 < DarkStar> Oh wait! Wtf?
00:00 < TheSeven> let's try halving that clock tomorrow
00:00 < DarkStar> It's back to emBIOIS.
00:00 < DarkStar> *BIOS
00:00 < TheSeven> did you throw an embios installer at it somehow?
00:00 < DarkStar> I don't think so. :S
00:00 < DarkStar> Oh,
00:00 < DarkStar> wait yeah I executed a binary.
00:00 < DarkStar> haha
00:01 < TheSeven> hm, this might also be a DMA problem
00:01 < TheSeven> if you're curious, here's the driver source code: http://websvn.freemyipod.org/filedetails.php?repname=freemyipod&path=%2Femcore%2Ftrunk%2Ftarget%2Fipodnano2g%2Flcd.c
00:02 < DarkStar> Means nothing to me, i'm a Java programmer.
00:02 < DarkStar> Wiping the nand from embios, then I'll try reinstalling emCORE.
00:02 < TheSeven> i'm not sure if that helps
00:02 < TheSeven> if it's actually the LCD and not the flash, wiping the flash won't help
00:02 < DarkStar> Hm.
00:03 < DarkStar> Guess we'll find out. :P
00:03 < TheSeven> you might want to try downgrading to embios though
00:03 < TheSeven> just run an old embios installer like you ran the emcore one
00:04 < DarkStar> Bah, I'll leave it for now I've gotta go get a shower.
00:04 < DarkStar> I'll let you go, you've been a great help - thanks a lot.
00:04 < DarkStar> If all else fails I'll try Python in Windows.
00:06 < TheSeven> probably won't help much either if it's an LCD issue
00:36 < [Saint]> TheSeven: Where is "installer-ipodnano2g-r674-XXXXXXX" coming from?
00:36 < [Saint]> It's not listed in the build server.
00:37 < [Saint]> I always wondered where the fuck I was supposed to get .ubi files to update emCORE on my Nanos from.
00:37 < [Saint]> it's been stuck at that very first version you released, since you released it.
00:54 < timccc> hey, what version of python do you need for the linux install? http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic/PrepareDFULinux
00:55 < [Saint]> py 2.7 should be fine.
00:57 < DarkStar> Yeah, I'm just using the latest 2.7 with no issues. Except the whole "my iPod nano's LCD isn't refreshing at all" issue.
01:07 < timccc> 2.6.6 installed here, and going to 2.7 might prove messy. hm. 
01:10 < DarkStar> 2.6-2.7 will work.
01:10 < DarkStar> There's virtually no difference. Some bug patches.
01:20 < timccc> yep, it worked. i see UMSboot. waiting for it to mount. 
01:21 < DarkStar> I can't see anything. ;(
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01:28 < timccc> why might linux take ~10 minutes to mount? 
01:28 < DarkStar_> Good question.
01:28 < timccc> i guess i'll be needing support soon. 
01:28 < DarkStar_> Hopefully nothing.
01:29 < DarkStar_> I'm not allowed to eat for 30 hours starting midnight my tz.
01:30 < DarkStar_> timccc, I'm guessing you're trying to mount something on your iPod?
01:30 < timccc> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic/PrepareDFULinux
01:30 < timccc> i've got umsboot on the ipod lcd, but nothing mounted on the computer
01:30 < DarkStar_> Oh! That might just be a bug with umsboot.
01:31 < DarkStar_> Or it's doing background work at that mounting time.
01:31 < [Saint]> ESPECULATION!
01:31 < DarkStar_> NOT BOTHERING TO GOOGLE THAT WORD!
01:32 < timccc> right. so what now? 
01:32 < DarkStar_> Go make a coffee?
01:32 < [Saint]> timccc: exactly what you are doing.
01:32 < [Saint]> Idle, wait for TheSeven.
01:33 < [Saint]> "[03:05] <kugelp> ffs, this volume blast needs to be fixed, it's pretty dangerous for the ears"
01:33 < [Saint]> shit...wrong window.
01:33 < [Saint]> "Your iPod should now turn on and connect a 64MB drive called "UMSboot". It's a known issue that Linux might take a long (over 10 min) time to recognize and mount the iPod. If it doesn't (after waiting very long), please ask for support."
01:33 < timccc> right, thats where i'm at. 
01:33 < DarkStar_> Have you (waiting very long)ed?
01:33 < [Saint]> so...the wait is a known issue...if it doesn't mount, don't mess with it...ask for support.
01:34 < DarkStar_> ^or if you're like me mess around with the tools and try to fix it manually.
01:34 < [Saint]> Unfortunately there's a little thing called international timezones, but... TheSeven will be here eventualy.
01:34 < timccc> ya, it's only been 15 minutes. i'm in no rush saint
01:34 < DarkStar_> It's 3:17am where he is, I think.
01:34 < DarkStar_> anyways. I'm going to bed.
01:34 < DarkStar_> ttyt.
01:35 < [Saint]> 3:35am for him...so, no surprises he's not here.
01:37 < timccc> the last time i had trouble, it was a whole lot of work at home and chatter in here...all because of bad hardware 
01:37 < timccc> this time i catch a known bug. bad luck! lets everyone see my noob side too. i'll sit tight for 7
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07:34 < TheSeven> timccc, [Saint]: sounds like this ehci issue again. what does dmesg say?
07:40 < timccc> TheSeven: dmesg in 2parts http://pastie.org/1738370 and http://pastie.org/1738371
07:54 < timccc> i can't unload ehci_hcd, "FATAL: Module ehci_hcd is builtin' how about black listing it? 
07:56 < [Saint]> No access to a Windows machine I guess?
07:59 < timccc> theres a win xp machine about 10 minutes away i can use
08:26 < STeeF> TheSeven, do you know if the ehci issue is hardware related? I had this issue on my desktop, while my laptop (both running same uptodate kubuntu linux version) it worked
08:30 < TheSeven> that makes the issue even more complex
08:30 < TheSeven> it happens for some, but not all usb mass storage devices on some, but not all systems with some, but not all kernel builds
08:31 < STeeF> NICE!
08:31 < TheSeven> luckily at least the combination of all three seems to be able to reproduce 100%
08:31 < TheSeven> so we might one day even find out what's going on
08:32 < STeeF> On my desktop the load of one core of one cpu jumps to 100% on my laptop the load jumps to 100% on one core when plugging in the UMSBoot device and while mounting the CPU level jumps to 100% on both cores. and after 1 minute the device is mounted
08:33 < STeeF> ^^ on the laptop that is
08:33 < TheSeven> and the cpu load drops down again?
08:33 < STeeF> yep
08:33 < STeeF> all fine
08:33 < TheSeven> that sounds like both machines are affected by the bug to different degrees
08:33 < TheSeven> yay, it's gonna be even more funny...
08:34 < TheSeven> it should mount within a second and not produce any bus reset messages in dmesg if everything works right
08:34 < TheSeven> and it seems to do so for UHCI
08:51 < timccc> so can i help any? i guess i should restart the ipod, dfu mode and try again yes? 
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08:55 < TheSeven> won't help much, you'll probably need to get rid of ehci (or blacklist that device id for ehci, which can be done, but i don't know how), or use another computer
08:57 < timccc> sorry i can't help then. i'll use another computer 
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09:11 < STeeF> timccc, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1214003&page=3
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09:12 < STeeF> there might be a solution in that topic, didn't had time to experiment with it
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09:20 < timccc> it worked on my other ubuntu 10.10 machine, heh
09:26 < geek7> hmm
09:26 < geek7> wierd
09:27 < timccc> awesome. thanks everyone :) i guess linux installers should have two computers handy 
09:27 < geek7> the format ended, i just don't know what happened. 
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09:39 < geek7> timccc: everyone should have more than one system, preferably dualbooting ;p
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09:52 < kitano_> hi 
09:53 < kitano_> what is the process for uninstall? restore on itunes? i have ipod classic 180gb without dual boot :-(
09:53 < kitano_> i have emcore installed the last one
09:57 < geek7> TheSeven: awake? ;p
09:58 < geek7> the format 'ended' like this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1111219/progress.txt - so i'm good to give rockbox a shot- anything special i need to do to do the thing to fix bad clusters?
09:58 < geek7> kitano_: 180 gb? 
09:58 < kitano_> sorry xd 160 
10:01 < kitano_> i test rockbox but batery life drains faster than original firmware, normal on beta process :-), but i don't have a options of dual boot on this version.
10:02 < geek7> i haven't installed it on mine yet. i have bad sectors, and was trying something else first ;p
10:03 < kitano_> arggh, bad hard disk?
10:03 < kitano_> i see your log
10:06 < geek7> lol
10:06 < geek7> i screwed it up worse. pending sectors went from 27 to 46
10:06 < kitano_> i think you need a new one
10:07 < geek7> lol
10:07 < geek7> where's the fun in that ;)
10:07 < geek7> i have a refurb one as an alternate
10:07 < kitano_> hahaha ok
10:07  * geek7 is prolly getting a new laptop first. then will think about replacing the ipod ;p
10:08 < kitano_> the emcore installer reformat your drive 
10:08 < kitano_> or partitions
10:08 < geek7> yeah, TheSeven mentioned that it does something that hides bad clusters from the system
10:08 < geek7> i'd like a little more info first ;p
10:09 < kitano_> my hd are clean of bad cluster ... i think so
10:09 < geek7> mine's mostly old age ;p
10:09 < geek7> its 4-5ish yrs old, and used a LOT
10:10 < kitano_> old than mine
10:10 < kitano_> 2 years old
10:11 < geek7> ya
10:11 < geek7> the CE-ATA models are a pain tho
10:11 < geek7> no spares for one, from ANYWHERE
10:11 < kitano_> lol
10:11 < geek7> tried locally, no luck. tried ifixit, no luck...
10:12 < kitano_> ifixit don't have¿?
10:12 < geek7> the refurb works fine, and cost me about what i was willing to pay for a hard drive ;p
10:12 < geek7> no :(
10:12 < kitano_> where are your from?
10:12 < geek7> rockbox is about the only way there's any chance this is usable
10:12 < geek7> singapore
10:13 < kitano_> spain here
10:13 < kitano_> apple repair cost a lot for change hd
10:14 < geek7> lol
10:14 < kitano_> and the classic one it's a pain in the ass to open.
10:14 < geek7> yeah.
10:14 < geek7> i spent about 160 dollars (a new one costs about 388) on the refurb
10:14 < geek7> hnm
10:15 < geek7> yeah, sounds about right
10:16 < kitano_> yep i take care of my ipod hehe
10:21 < geek7> so do i
10:44 < [Saint]> kitano_: it's not "no dualboot in this version", it's likely there won;t be dualboot, ever.
10:44 < [Saint]> It doesn't make any sense to support it really.
10:44 < kitano_> lol ok :-)
10:45 < [Saint]> AFAIK there's no "nice" way to do it, but that might change.
10:49 < geek7> hm
10:49 < geek7> how do i exit the emcore console?
10:49 < kitano_> ok i put the ipod on dfu mode and use itunes to recover
10:49  * geek7 got into it when messing around and is stuck
10:49 < [Saint]> geek7: menu+select
10:50 < kitano_> reset ipod
10:50 < kitano_> menu and select
10:56 < geek7> yeah, it did the trick
10:56 < geek7> now, i just need to get annoyed at itunes trying to sync to this ;p
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10:59 < geek7> also, do i need a specific CE ATA build?
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11:17 < geek7> ok, now to see if it messes up like it did before :)
11:17 < geek7> tho i must say, if nothing else, more games ;p
11:59 < TheSeven> geek7: more bad blocks than it has sectors? wtf?
12:01 < TheSeven> [12:44] <[Saint]> It doesn't make any sense to support it really. << i wouldn't second that
12:01 < TheSeven> and if someone figures out why it doesn't work it might well have dualboot one day
12:02 < TheSeven> [12:58] <geek7> also, do i need a specific CE ATA build? << no, this is supported by the regular build
12:03 < [Saint]> Hmmmm...oddd.
12:03 < [Saint]> I was pretty sure you said exactly that the other day re: dualboot.
12:05 < TheSeven> if i had the time to dig into it...
12:05 < TheSeven> it's just a nasty bug that's preventing it currently
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12:23 < geek7> TheSeven: would installing emcore/rockbox be enough to do the bad sector mappage??
12:24 < geek7> anyway, i have rockbox running and 80gb of files being uploaded ;p
12:25 < TheSeven> you need to install emcore, and to have a list of the bad block numbers
12:25 < geek7> hmm, i can't generate that tho ._.
12:25 < TheSeven> then you can generate and write a bad block table, that will be used by their hard disk drivers
12:25 < geek7> since i have more bad blocks that sectors according to linux ;p
12:26 < TheSeven> that's a 160GB drive? 4K cluster size or bigger?
12:26 < geek7> well, whatever apple formatted it as
12:26 < TheSeven> didn't you just format it?
12:26 < geek7> er... well, no
12:27 < geek7> from what i could tell, it didn't *actually* format
12:27 < geek7> since all my old music was on it
12:27 < TheSeven> dammit
12:27 < TheSeven> then you'll probably have to scan it once again
12:27 < geek7> which is why it ended so fast
12:27 < geek7> last time i tried it ran for... months
12:30 < TheSeven> do you have emcore installed on it currently?
12:32 < geek7> yes
12:32 < geek7> >_> 
12:32 < geek7> AFK, need to dogsit
12:32 < geek7> sorry. Tho, anything i need to do, i can come back and try
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14:32 < geek7> back
14:33 < geek7> ah hah!
14:34 < geek7> cyclic redundancy check
14:34 < geek7> so yeah, i still have errors at the 35 gb mark at least
14:36 < geek7> hm
14:36 < geek7> HDtune thinks the entire disk is damaged
14:37 < geek7> and its a single 20 gb partition
15:00 < TheSeven> geek7: install emcore and drop http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/hddscan.emcoreapp into /.boot/init.emcoreapp and reboot your ipod
15:01 < geek7> TheSeven: emcore is already installed
15:01 < geek7> that's in the 'normal' partition right?
15:01 < TheSeven> yes
15:03 < geek7> so it should be (and i'm not clear) in /.boot/init.emcoreapp/hddscan.emcoreapp ?
15:03 < TheSeven> just /.boot/init.emcoreapp
15:03 < TheSeven> so you need to rename it
15:04 < geek7> ahh
15:04 < geek7> k
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15:06 < TheWilli> hey whats up
15:07 < geek7> hmm
15:07 < TheWilli> lets fix the hangs in the kernel
15:07 < geek7> *panic* incompatable API version Got 2, need 3
15:07 < TheSeven> oops
15:07 < TheWilli> TheSeven told he has no idea
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15:08 < TheWilli> sparmann made mistirious things
15:09 < geek7> hmm, and the drives not detecting ._.
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15:09 < TheWilli> lalala
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15:12  * geek7 pokes at TheSeven 
15:12 < TheSeven> geek7: i updated that file again, can you retry?
15:12 < geek7> TheSeven: i can't seem to mount the drive
15:13 < TheSeven> bugger
15:14 < geek7> it go kaboom? :(
15:14 < TheSeven> this is gonna be a bit tricky
15:14 < TheSeven> do you have access to a linux system?
15:14 < geek7> hm
15:14 < geek7> not till tommorrow
15:14 < TheSeven> you can try it on windows as well, but that
15:14 < TheSeven> might not be as easy as it is on windows
15:14 < geek7> hmm
15:14 < geek7> actually
15:15 < geek7> i have a linux partition ;p
15:15 < geek7> back in 5
15:15 < TheSeven> ok
15:15 < geek7> i totally forgot about that ;p
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15:16 < TheWilli> hallo again i am back
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15:17 < TheWilli> the seven is evil and baned me :'(
15:17 < TheSeven> no, i didn't until now
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15:21 < geek7> back
15:21 < geek7> and on linux, so.. what do i do?
15:21 < TheSeven> you'll need to install pyusb >=1.0.0a0 into python 2.6/2.7
15:24 < Farthen> and libusb if you haven't already
15:25 < geek7> libusb-1.0-0 would do?
15:25 < geek7> or do i need the dev version?
15:25 < Farthen> no, 1.0 ist completely fine
15:25 < Farthen> s/ist/is/
15:26 < geek7> hmm, installed
15:26 < Farthen> ok, this is standard on most distributions
15:27 < geek7> ;p, haven't booted into this partition a while. I use SSH on a remote box for most part
15:27 < geek7> but yeah, both are installed
15:28 < geek7> now what?
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15:30 < TheSeven> svn co http://svn.freemyipod.org/emcore/trunk/tools
15:32 < geek7> one moment while i install svn
15:32 < TheSeven> pyusb installed by default, but not svn? o.0
15:33 < geek7> k, downloaded the tools
15:33 < geek7> TheSeven: apparently so. this is nowhere near a dev machine ;p
15:34 < geek7> (actually i COULD have sworn i had SVN on this for a website i was working on. )
15:34 < geek7> i'm ready for the next step
15:34 < TheSeven> connect your ipod
15:35 < TheSeven> sudo python emcore.py rmtree /.boot
15:35 < TheSeven> then get http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/hddscan.emcoreapp and run:
15:35 < TheSeven> sudo python emcore.py run hddscan.emcoreapp
15:36 < geek7> k
15:36 < geek7> i download it into the ipod, or the tools directory?
15:36 < TheSeven> the tools directory
15:37 < geek7> hmm
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15:38 < geek7> it seems to be doing, well something
15:39 < geek7> i see the bad sector scanner screen on the ipod.everything except initial reads zero
15:40 < TheSeven> hm, those numbers should be changing every few seconds
15:41 < TheSeven> you can also run "sudo python emcore.py console" if you want to see some more information on what it's doing
15:43 < geek7> http://pastebin.com/QXHKHBzY
15:45 < TheSeven> oops, missed something else as well
15:45 < TheSeven> just updated the file again
15:46 < TheSeven> press ctrl+c to kill the console
15:46 < TheSeven> then run the "sudo python emcore.py run hddscan.emcoreapp" and "sudo python emcore.py console" commands again
15:46 < geek7> how do i stop the process that's running on the ipod?
15:46 < geek7> ahh
15:46 < TheSeven> that process apparently already died
15:46 < geek7> hmm
15:46 < geek7> did the file get updated?
15:47 < TheSeven> yep
15:47 < geek7> wget seems to think not ._.
15:47 < TheSeven> md5sum should be b508efd6b56073133d9ee0b3f23fa032
15:48 < geek7> more bugs
15:48 < geek7> http://pastebin.com/XKJ5GaEr
15:48 < TheSeven> seems like it's locked up
15:49 < TheSeven> hold menu+select for 5 seconds
15:49 < TheSeven> then choose the "emcore console" boot option, and run those two commands again
15:50 < geek7> hmm
15:50 < geek7> http://pastebin.com/gMBXDc4t this is what i get now
15:50 < TheSeven> what do you see on the ipod's display?
15:52 < geek7> ATA:Error 800000000 while reading BBT(sector 39072731, count 1)
15:52 < geek7> dropped into emCORE console.
15:53 < TheSeven> nothing else?
15:54 < geek7> nope
15:54 < TheSeven> hm, we should try to get rid of that BBT error: reboot it, then run sudo python emcore.py writerawstorage 0 0 1 0x08000000, and reboot it once again
15:56 < geek7> hm
15:56 < geek7> same error
15:56 < TheSeven> during the writerawstorage command?
15:57 < geek7> when i rebooted
15:57 < TheSeven> still that bbt error or what?
15:57 < geek7> ya
15:57 < TheSeven> ok, do the following:
15:58 < geek7> http://pastebin.com/dv9jkQ5R
15:58 < TheSeven> download http://builds.freemyipod.org/emcore/target/ipodclassic/emcore-ipodclassic-r688.bin as well
15:58 < geek7> that's what i get
15:58 < TheSeven> check the md5sum of hddscan.emcoreapp, and if it's wrong, re-download it once again (might have dropped out of some cache by now)
15:59 < geek7> hmm
15:59 < geek7> how do i check md5?
15:59 < TheSeven> md5sum <file>
15:59 < geek7> hm, md5 sum is off
16:00 < TheSeven> once you've fixed that:
16:00 < TheSeven> sudo python emcore.py writerawstorage 0 0 1 0x08000000 && sudo python emcore.py runfirmware 0x08000000 emcore-ipodclassic-r688.bin && sleep 10 && sudo python emcore.py run hddscan.emcoreapp && sudo python emcore.py console
16:00 < geek7> ok, now its right
16:01 < geek7> after i reboot and go to console?
16:02 < TheSeven> after you reboot, you don't need to go to the console
16:02 < geek7> http://pastebin.com/xmDui1Uu
16:04 < geek7> screen says the same ATA: error at.... as well as 'no usable boot options, waiting for usb commands'
16:05 < TheSeven> and the app once again crashed...
16:05 < TheSeven> bugger, i need to try this myself when i'm at home
16:06 < geek7> lol
16:06 < geek7> Its midnight here, so i can probably bug you again at a saner hour if necessary
16:08 < TheSeven> so GMT+8?
16:08 < geek7> ya
16:08 < geek7> singapore
16:08 < TheSeven> i'll probably try this tonight and hopefully have a working one tomorrow
16:08 < geek7> *nodnods*
16:08 < TheSeven> i'll probably be online all day tomorrow
16:09 < geek7> i got school in the morning ;p
16:09 < geek7> else i'd prolly sleep at 2-3
16:09 < geek7> anyway. see you tommorrow, and hopefully we can beat it into working ;)
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19:33 < fmibot> New commit by farthen (r689): emcore tools: libemcore.py: very small cosmetic change
19:33 < fmibot> r689 build result: emcore: All green!
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