--- Log opened Fri Apr 01 00:53:26 2011 01:27 < DarkStar_> Oi, don't suppose there's any conf method of forcing emCORE to boot directly into Rockbox? My LCD won't refresh and Rockbox seems stable. 01:42 -!- Keripo [~Keripo@eng177.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:13 -!- TheSeven [~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:19 -!- TheSeven [~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined #freemyipod 02:21 -!- Keripo [~Keripo@eng265.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #freemyipod 02:28 -!- Keripo [~Keripo@eng265.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:02 -!- liar [~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at] has quit [Quit: hallowed are the ori!] 05:01 -!- geek7 [~geek@cm72.delta23.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #freemyipod 05:01 < geek7> good morning 05:01 < geek7> well, afternoon 05:02 -!- clustur [~logger@c-98-249-104-118.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:03 -!- clustur [~logger@c-98-249-104-118.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #freemyipod 05:17 < geek7> TheSeven: any luck with the hdd checker crashes? 05:34 < Farthen> he improved the app 05:34 < Farthen> i'm not sure but i think it can't hurt to run http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/hddscan2.ubi 05:35 < geek7> hmm 05:35 < Farthen> this would probably be the one TheSeven would have given you if he was here 05:35 < geek7> silly question but.. how do i run ubi files? ._. 05:35 < Farthen> run it through umsboot 05:35 < Farthen> start umsboot and drop it in there 05:36 < geek7> ahh, so just drop it into the data drive? 05:37 < Farthen> yep and then safely remove it 05:38 < geek7> hmm, its apparently not detected 05:38 < geek7> (still( 05:43 -!- Keripo [~Keripo@eng386.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #freemyipod 05:43 < geek7> any alternate way to get it in? 07:01 -!- hiddeboomsma [~hiddeboom@151-254.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #freemyipod 07:36 < geek7> hm. managed to get it in via a windows box :) 07:38 < geek7> should i leave this plugged in for power while i do this? 07:40 < STeeF> geek7, I think its better to leave it plugged in for power as the HDD consumes the most power 07:41 < geek7> will do 09:07 < TheSeven> [03:27] Oi, don't suppose there's any conf method of forcing emCORE to boot directly into Rockbox? My LCD won't refresh and Rockbox seems stable. << grab fastboot.emcoreapp and save it as /.boot/init.emcoreapp on your ipod 09:08 < TheSeven> geek7: you can also run the ubi file with "sudo emcore.py runfirmware 0x08000000 hddscan2.ubi" 09:08 -!- Keripo [~Keripo@eng386.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:09 < TheSeven> geek7: it doesn't matter if you temporarily unplug it e.g. to move it to a different power source, but as this will probably be running for days, you should ensure that it has enough power available to survive :) 09:09 < TheSeven> if, for any reason, the battery drops below 50%, it will spin down the HDD and wait for it to charge 09:11 < TheSeven> geek7: what do the stats say until now? 09:11 < TheSeven> i'm also running it on my broken one currently, and so far it has processed 4 gigabytes (running for like 12 hours now) 09:11 < TheSeven> but on my disk the bad sectors are near the beginning 09:19 < geek7> TheSeven: mostly zeros other than initial (39013574) write ok (6829) and read ok (39731) 09:19 < geek7> oh and processing sector 46505 of 39072706 09:23 < geek7> hmm. anyway to dump out what the screen is saying to a linux box's console ? ;p 09:30 < TheSeven> not during the process, but at the end a summary file will be written 09:31 < TheSeven> how long has that been running now? 09:32 < TheSeven> every sector is 4K btw 09:38 < geek7> not very long, a few hours 09:38 < geek7> about 3 hours from the timestamps 09:39 < geek7> the errors should start at around the 30 gig mark 09:58 -!- liar [~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at] has joined #freemyipod 10:14 < TheSeven> geek7: this is not "just" a bad sector scan, but also a sector stability check (the sectors are read and written in different orders and with different patterns repeatedly), so there will be a factor of 20 to 40 overhead compared to copying files to the disk 10:14 < TheSeven> so if the disk would be clean, it should be done after about ~36-48h 10:16 < TheSeven> mine has crunched 4GB overnight, with 2838 bad sectors in that range 10:29 < geek7> TheSeven: i'd point out, attempting to format with linux took me over 3 weeks to scan ;p 10:29 < geek7> 36-48 hours is fine 10:29 -!- liar [~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:31 -!- liar [~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at] has joined #freemyipod 10:31 < TheSeven> 36-48 hours *assuming that there are no bad sectors* 10:31 < TheSeven> if there are some, it will take longer 10:32 < geek7> well, i'm fairly certain there are ;p 10:32 < TheSeven> the exact time might end up being more than a week as well, depending on the kind of damage 10:32 < TheSeven> however, if it's really just the last few gigabytes that are bad, you can cancel it at that point and just mark that whole block as bad 10:34 < geek7> its not the last few 10:35 < geek7> well, it could be ;p 10:35 < geek7> but its definately at 30 gb 10:37 < TheSeven> yeah, but you said that the area that was really hard to scan was at the very end of the disk 10:38 < TheSeven> so i'd assume that my tool manages to crunch the bad area at 30gb in reasonable time as well 10:40 < geek7> well, actually, it slowed down at a certain point, then... went odd 11:02 -!- clustur [~logger@c-98-249-104-118.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:03 -!- clustur [~logger@c-98-249-104-118.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #freemyipod 13:47 -!- bcoco85 [~co@77.225.204.126] has joined #freemyipod 14:03 -!- n1s [~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s] has joined #freemyipod 14:11 -!- benedikt93 [~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93] has joined #freemyipod 14:42 -!- n1s [~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:49 -!- geek7 [~geek@cm72.delta23.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:27 -!- DX3 [~Dre@92.18.105.226] has joined #freemyipod 15:29 -!- bcoco85 [~co@77.225.204.126] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:29 -!- Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.18.97.252] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:30 -!- Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.18.201.28] has joined #freemyipod 15:32 -!- hiddeboomsma [~hiddeboom@151-254.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:33 -!- DX3 [~Dre@92.18.105.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:54 < ParadisoShlee> How's the kernel bugs going? 16:21 -!- Elfish [amba@2a01:4f8:100:90a1:abc:abc:abc:abc] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:23 -!- n1s [~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s] has joined #freemyipod 16:24 -!- Keripo [~Keripo@eng027.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #freemyipod 16:31 < Farthen> ParadisoShlee: they are being worked on. this may take some more days though... bug tracing and fixing isn't a linear process so we can't really tell 16:39 -!- [Saint] [~st.lasciv@124-197-14-130.callplus.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:40 -!- Elfish [amba@2a01:4f8:100:90a1:abc:abc:abc:abc] has joined #freemyipod 16:43 -!- [Saint] [~st.lasciv@124-197-14-130.callplus.net.nz] has joined #freemyipod 16:55 < ParadisoShlee> I'm actually more interested in seeing how long until TheSeven wants to hit that button of mass publication. 16:56 < ParadisoShlee> I'm really quiet enjoying myself with rockbox atm. 16:57 < Farthen> i think there is nothing really blocking it except for this bug/those bugs 17:02 -!- clustur [~logger@c-98-249-104-118.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02 -!- clustur [~logger@c-98-249-104-118.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #freemyipod 17:07 -!- liar [~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:08 -!- Kebianizao [~kvirc@224.69.22.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #freemyipod 17:08 -!- liar [~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at] has joined #freemyipod 17:32 -!- Keripo1 [~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #freemyipod 17:35 -!- Keripo [~Keripo@eng027.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:38 < TheSeven> ParadisoShlee: Haven't i already hit that button? 17:38 < TheSeven> (at least for the ipod classic) 17:39 < TheSeven> i'll probably release a bug fix release soon which eliminates two kernel bugs, unless I figure out where the remaining ones are coming from 17:39 < TheSeven> the ones I fixed don't seem to have anything to do with the boot menu lockups 17:48 -!- justanotherperso [4857b986@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.87.185.134] has joined #freemyipod 17:48 < justanotherperso> Hey guys, just saw the Wiki and decided to give Rockbox a go. I have a 160 gig iPod Classic, I believe it's the fat one (could be slim, I don't know lol). Did the install and the menu was really messed up, couldn't read much and the rockbox.image failed to load. I saw that this was common, I'd really like to help and be a testee for this. How can I help? Any updates on this stuff? 17:51 < TheSeven> justanotherperso: Known issues :/ 17:51 < TheSeven> Have been worked around in trunk, but not released yet 17:52 < TheSeven> if you can boot rockbox, here's a temporary workaround: 17:52 < TheSeven> download http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/resetvoltages.emcoreapp and save it as /.boot/init.emcoreapp on your ipod's hard drive 17:54 < justanotherperso> cool beans man thanks! couldn't boot rockbox, but I might try again later. 17:55 < justanotherperso> I'll be happy to test it out again, I just switched to linux and managing an iPod without iTunes is a bit hard haha 17:55 < justanotherperso> Rockbox would really help me out on this 17:55 < justanotherperso> Thanks man, I'll come back later, take care! 17:55 -!- justanotherperso [4857b986@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.87.185.134] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:12 -!- user890104 [~Venci@6bez10.info] has quit [] 18:45 -!- n1s [~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:51 -!- Keripo1 [~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:53 -!- liar [~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at] has quit [Quit: hallowed are the ori!] 18:57 -!- liar [~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at] has joined #freemyipod 19:08 -!- Keripo [~Keripo@SEAS228.wlan.seas.upenn.edu] has joined #freemyipod 19:11 -!- liar [~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at] has quit [Quit: hallowed are the ori!] 19:13 -!- liar [~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at] has joined #freemyipod 19:40 -!- asmmonkey [~asmmonkey@75.Red-88-20-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #freemyipod 19:42 -!- asmmonkey [~asmmonkey@75.Red-88-20-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:43 -!- asmmonkey [~asmmonkey@75.Red-88-20-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #freemyipod 19:43 -!- asmmonkey [~asmmonkey@75.Red-88-20-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:46 -!- alderz [~alderz@75.Red-88-20-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #freemyipod 20:39 -!- alderz [~alderz@75.Red-88-20-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: mov pc, lr] 20:40 -!- Keripo1 [~Keripo@SEAS228.wlan.seas.upenn.edu] has joined #freemyipod 20:43 -!- Keripo [~Keripo@SEAS228.wlan.seas.upenn.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:45 -!- Keripo1 [~Keripo@SEAS228.wlan.seas.upenn.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:15 -!- Keripo [~Keripo@seas013.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has joined #freemyipod 21:21 -!- benedikt93 [~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93] has quit [Quit: "Nothing is true, everything is permitted"] 21:43 < DarkStar_> herroall. 21:43 -!- pradalvr [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/pradalvr] has joined #freemyipod 21:48 < pradalvr> why is jail breaking the new iPhone such a hard thing? who is in charge of this operation anyway? 21:53 < DarkStar_> Jailbreaking isn't hard. We aren't jailbreaking anything. 21:53 < DarkStar_> Well, I mean, I *do*, but that's not the point of this community. 21:55 < pradalvr> but the new iPhone cant be jail broken 21:55 < DarkStar_> iPhone 4? 21:55 < DarkStar_> I jailbroke one for my friend last night quite successfully. 21:55 < pradalvr> yes 4.3 21:56 < pradalvr> i know the 4.2 can 21:56 < DarkStar_> iOS 4.3 can be jailbroken, but it's tethered right now. And if you don't know why it can't be untethered, you don't know what you're bitching about. 21:58 < pradalvr> Okie dokie.. then i don't know what i am bitchen about .. I spoke to a guy that jailbreaks and he told me the jailbreak is buggy and not worth it and i would be taking a chance of the phone being bricked 21:59 < DarkStar_> You wouldn't. That guy has his head up his ass. By any regard, this channel isn't about jailbreaking, it's a community that's been working on an alternative boot loader for non-iOS devices for firmware like Rockbox. 22:00 -!- Keripo [~Keripo@seas013.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:00 < DarkStar_> The issue with a tethered jailbreak is if you reboot your iOS device, it won't boot until you connect it to a computer running the jailbreak and do an initialization process. 22:01 < pradalvr> so when he calls me back i will tell him the guy from irc said," your heads up your ass" 22:01 < DarkStar_> Yup. 22:01 < pradalvr> lol 22:02 < DarkStar_> I have a 4.3 iPhone 4 sitting on my desk and it's jailbroken mate. 22:02 < DarkStar_> There's an iPod touch too. 22:03 < DarkStar_> And two 2nd gen nano's running emCORE (the current focus of this channel.) ^-^ 22:03 < pradalvr> so if the guy does the initialization process it will work without being initialized again? 22:03 < pradalvr> Look i am a girl learning this fast 22:04 < DarkStar_> No. You have to do it every time the device boots. (Not standby, but an actual fresh boot.) 22:04 * TheSeven wonders if the topic of this channel is really THAT hard to understand 22:04 < DarkStar_> And girls don't exist on the internet. 22:04 < DarkStar_> I don't think it is broskii. 22:04 < pradalvr> why do guys always say that 22:04 < DarkStar_> Did you ever give any thought (or see) my idea of forcing emCORE to just boot straight into Rockbox, TheSeven ? 22:04 < pradalvr> you know programming is allot like auto machanics 22:05 < DarkStar_> Two things girls are devoid in the field of. ^ 22:05 < pradalvr> you know programming is allot like auto mechanics 22:05 < TheSeven> DarkStar_: fastboot.emcoreapp? 22:05 < DarkStar_> And public void main(string[] args) {} is hardly like "Pass me the three-eights." 22:06 < DarkStar_> TheSeven: I didn't know that was a thing. How do I make it run on this nani? 22:06 < DarkStar_> *nano, fml 22:06 < TheSeven> save it as /.boot/init.emcoreapp, and it will boot straight to rockbox unless you hold a button during boot 22:06 < DarkStar_> Hmm, sweet. 22:06 < pradalvr> on the phone.. hold on 22:08 < DarkStar_> Possible stupid question, where do I find fastboot.emcoreapp? 22:10 < DarkStar_> Never mind, it's in the releases wiki page. 22:13 < DarkStar_> Working, I think this will serve well enough as a workaround. 22:23 -!- Kebianizao [~kvirc@224.69.22.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: Estaba usando KVIrc KVIrc Equilibrium 4.1.1, revision: 5639, sources date: 20110306, built on: 2011-03-18 19:41:33 UTC 5639 http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:25 < pradalvr> whats fastboot.emcoreapp 22:30 < pradalvr> Just curious.. apparently the iphone guy knew what he was talking about 22:32 < pradalvr> the jail breaking isn't 100% 22:50 -!- user890104 [~Venci@6bez10.info] has joined #freemyipod 22:55 -!- [Saint] [~st.lasciv@124-197-14-130.callplus.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:01 -!- [Saint] [~st.lasciv@124-197-14-130.callplus.net.nz] has joined #freemyipod 23:02 -!- clustur [~logger@c-98-249-104-118.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:03 -!- clustur [~logger@c-98-249-104-118.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #freemyipod 23:04 -!- Keripo [~Keripo@fkb009.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has joined #freemyipod 23:05 -!- Keripo [~Keripo@fkb009.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:07 -!- Keripo [~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #freemyipod 23:07 -!- Keripo [~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 23:08 < DarkStar_> pradalvr: He didn't, it is 100%. It's tethered. Fastboot makes emCORE boot directly into Rockbox. The LCD doesn't work for some devices using emCORE. 23:09 < TheSeven> actually it seems to be a bug in the way the dithering code drives the LCD 23:11 < pradalvr> sure 23:21 -!- Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.18.201.28] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 23:26 -!- Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.18.201.28] has joined #freemyipod 23:27 -!- liar [~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51 < user890104> this error is preventing me from making a build of emcore for nano 2g: http://pastebin.com/SL4AmVTb 23:51 < user890104> using svn head and a rockbox toolchain 23:52 < TheSeven> user890104: that's usually a sign of a missing file in /flashfiles 23:52 < TheSeven> maybe rockbox.ipod.ucl is missing? 23:54 < user890104> nope, it's there 23:54 < user890104> -rw-r--r-- 1 venci venci 286K 2011-04-02 02:50 freemyipod/apps/installer-ipodnano2g/flashfiles/rockbox.ipod.ucl 23:55 < user890104> a list of all files found there: http://pastebin.com/Ffv8N2sw --- Log closed Sat Apr 02 00:01:24 2011